Lush founder tells all on LBC.


By richmillett
August 8, 2011
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Last Thursday on LBC Radio Lush founder Mark Constantine was asked by Nick Ferrari to explain his company’s stance on Israel (audio clip below).

To demonstrate Lush’s objectivity Constantine mentions a product called Olive Branch, which, he explains:

“is actually grown by the Palestinians, but processed by the Jews.”

Perhaps realising he had made an error he immediately says:

“what I love about all the Jewish community is the great debate. We are for debate.”

Nick Ferrari agrees with him and moves on.

I doubt Mr Constantine would have referred to Afghanis, Pakistanis or Iranians as “the Muslims”. But, Israelis have suddenly morphed into “the Jews”.

The more we find out about Lush the worse the situation is becoming.

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Watchful Iris (not verified)

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 09:37

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What would you call people of a Jewish state? Canadians?


richmillett

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 09:42

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What do you call people of a Muslim state? Canadians?


Joe Millis

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 09:51

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richard, can you succeed where Garfield failed? Define Jewish state...


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 09:51

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Well, don't tell the folks in Ireland. Next thing you know, they'll want to be called Irish.


richmillett

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:41

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Joe, the majority of the population get to decide the laws etc. and do their best to make sure that minorities have their desires fulfilled, whether it be a Muslim, Jewish or Christian state.


Joe Millis

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:43

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All well and good, Richard, but that isn't a definition; it's an explanation. Not a great start to the season on saturday, eh?


amber

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 11:41

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Millis - YOU define the Jewish state, as you keep blabbing on about it.


amber

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 11:41

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Millis, doesn't Lush' stance concern you? You have not said a word about it.


amber

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 12:29

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millis, this is typical of you. You claim you believe in Israel, but then imply that you don't think a Jewish state is possible. If you do, then define it. If you don't, then have the guts to say so.

You argue in a fundamentally dishonest way, refusing to put your cards on the table. Say what you think, and stop playing infantile games.


richmillett

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 13:40

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Joe, what's the difference between a definition and an explanation?


Joe Millis

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 13:44

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Huge, Rich. I would define a Jewish state as one where the majority of citizens are Jewish and where the state uses Jewish holidays as state holidays and where the language and symbols are, well, Jewish. Some, obviously, would go further, demanding a very narrow definition of "Jewish" and would want the state to be run along halachic lines.
Where do you stand?


richmillett

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 14:01

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Britain uses Christian holidays as state holidays. Many symbols here are Christian. I don't agree with running Israel along halachic lines, but many Christians would like to see a more Christian Britain. Until fairly recently stores couldn't trade on Sundays and there are still restrictions on that.


amber

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 14:14

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That was really worth waiting for, millis.


Joe Millis

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 14:33

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Indeed, Richard, the head of the British state, HMQ, is also head of the church. But then again, Britain is also probably the most secular state in the Western world. Thank God. I think the British model is probably the most apt for Israel. Respect for the religion, but laughing at the God botherers.


amber

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 15:06

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Interesting, millis, that you base part of your identity in laughing at others. Indeed, your last sentence is an oxymoron. What kind of respect is that?


richmillett

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 15:50

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Joe, do you think we should laugh at Muslim "God botherers" also? I don't think Israel is as religious as you would love to make it out to be. You are just using your dislike of religion as a means to batter Israel. Each country has its religious culture, including the UK. In Malta you couldn't divorce until a few weeks ago and you cannot have an abortion there.


Joe Millis

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 16:04

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All religions, Richard, including Islam and Judaism, hasve their God botherers - so yes. Every Israeli government - right or even further right - has sold out to the Orthodox parties in order to stay in power (usually unsuccessully). The point is that there has given them almost limitless power - you know, of course, that all Jewish conversions have to be done according to the corrupt rabbinate, that all marriages, divorces etc have to be through that institution too.
You and the other hasbara-ras may think of it as battering Israel, but unlike the hasbara-ras I will not let what I say be defined by the naysayers.


richmillett

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 17:20

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Joe, then let Israelis change the system. You and I don't live there so we have to let them sort it out for themselves. The ballot box talks in Israel. What you and I say as British Jews is meaningless. Our only vote is in the UK.


Joe Millis

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 18:45

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Richard, Israel is the state of the Jewish people - at least that's what it says on the tin - so you and I as fully paid up members of the tribe have every right to say what we like on Israel. That's why you and I are so interested in the bloody place.

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