Surely time for some real real Zionism


By Real Real Zionist
December 12, 2011
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Someone needs a cold shower and to get a grip on reality. What happened on Friday is an example of what happens in the occupied territories not infrequently. A brutal occupation in action. This posture of benign "this hurts us more then it hurts you", "if only you would just accept our dominion we could all get along" custodianship is ridiculous.

Ducks quack, occupations are brutal. Generally the longer they go on the more brutal they get and the more dehumanised the occupiers and the occupied get, especially when the occupying power engages in a process of illegally colonising the occupied territory. " The occupying power shall not deport or otherwise transfer its civilian population..."

You see the instincts of an occupied people is to resist. DOH !!!!!!!!!!!

Only someone seriously disordered could compare this incident to psychos dropping rocks onto cars from a motorway bridge. This was a sealed armoured vehicle driving AWAY from what looks like, from the photographic evidence, two men throwing stones at the back of it as it moved away. The most serious possible outcome would be the paintwork might suffer a scratch.

The occupants OPEN THE DOOR and one points a tear gas projector at Tamimi and projects it into his face from a range of no more then ten metres in gross contravention of international law and the rules of engagement of the armies of any civilised country.

A Palestinian ambulance is on the scene almost instantly, but is refused access to the injured man. He lies there for 2 hours until he can be taken to an Israeli hospital. "Another mistake?"

THIS WAS MURDER PURE AND SIMPLE

The Israelis regularly use tear gas canisters in this way, not always with such terrible consequences.But serious injury and death is all too frequent.

But what tells us most about the true nature of this occupation is that the perpetrator of this crime will be seen to have acted with impunity.

Zionism wasn't mean to be like this. Surely time for some real real Zionism to take over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0

http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/with-surgical-precisio...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otQWYC-WWgI

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/12/israeli-soldier-shoots-protester-in-face-a...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/09/1043675/-This-Has-Nothing-To-Do...

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Chris Tucker (not verified)

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 09:11

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This has got to stop.


Advis3r

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 09:49

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Yep it's murder because Phoney says it is - after all an Israeli soldier is guilty until proved innocent and Mr Tammimi was just an innocent bystander who was obviously shot with malice aforethought. So by your standards no court of law is required to convict a Jew of murder. You are both pompous asses.


Mary in Brighton

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:56

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Do IDF recruits not get eye tests?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16136471


rushkin

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 17:25

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This is murder. No doubt about it.

Why was a man shot at at close range?
(stone throwers and looters in London were NOT shot at)

Why did the jeep drive away?

Why was the man denied treatment for so long?


Rich Armbach

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 09:26

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At least we don' t have to wait to know the outcome of the " investigation"


Mary in Brighton

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 09:53

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I'm not sure about the impunity claim. I have a dim memory of one of them having his iPod taken off him a while back in not dissimilar circumstances.


Advis3r

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 10:55

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I am not going to engage your false claims this was a violent riot and rock throwers are engaged in attempted murder and must face the consequences of their illegal actions.
There was violence on both sides in the London riots include shooting at policemen in Birmingham .However rushkin in his haste to condemn Israel forgets or chooses to forget that the riots began with the shooting of an alleged unarmed civilian. But wow masses of outrage - Syria has now killed over 5000 - sound of silence! Hypocrites.


Mary in Brighton

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 10:58

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By consequences of their " illegal " actions do you mean summary execution?


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 11:49

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No one could or would want to deny that compared to states like Syria Israel looks pretty good. But it claims, falsely, to be a western style liberal democracy. So people compare it real such democracies and find it woefully off the pace.

These Friday gatherings invariably end in violence. But it is ALWAYS the IOF that starts it.


Advis3r

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 12:41

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RRZ you are a blatant liar. Israel DEFENCE Forces are pelted with rocks and respond to violent provocation but phonies like you always lie that's why they are called phonies. Here is a picture of some of your non-violent protestor buddies
http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/98620-human-face-o...
and a picture of two of their victims
http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/asher_palmer.jpg
The other problem with you phoney is that you are both disingenuous and deceitful. Like the smug Israel hater you are you compare a western liberal democracy like the UK which is not surrounded by countries whose populations call for the death of UK citizens, which indescriminately fire rockets into its cities or who incite their populations to hate UK citizens with Israel which suffers all these things. Lets see how one of your so-called western liberal democracies behaves if it faced the same challenges.Name one country in history with a better human rights than Israel when faced with comparable military and strategic threats.
And watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y0I6rBrXnM&feature=player_embedded


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:21

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Just had to see Alans face and I hit the stop button. There is only so many times one person can listen to the same dirty stories
I'll get back to you on the other issue


Advis3r

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 15:39

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RRZ - you hit the button obviously because you can't answer his question truthfully - you hit the button because you have a problem with the truth it intereferes with your blind hatred for Israel.
You have a problem in that being a phoney you can’t tell the difference between a democracy defending itself from murderous rock throwers etc and a brutal regime slaughtering its own citizens for demonstrating peacefully.
I wonder what your reaction would be if armed with just a tear gas canister you come face to face with bunch of people armed with rocks who were proposing to cave in your head.


Mary in Brighton

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 16:50

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lol @" armed just with just a tear gas canister"

What about the nuclear warheads? Or don't the regular IDF kids get to play with them?


KatieCarslake

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 17:01

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Mary, I think they have nuclear warheads inside their armoured jeeps.


Advis3r

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 17:14

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yep Mary the IDF bring nuclear warheads to all violent Palestinian demonstrations! Sometimes I wonder if you realise how hystericaly funny you are. (That's funny peculiar by the way)


Goldie G. Tobin

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 17:57

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Is this man typical of West Bank settlers or is he a one off? Please G-d, say it's the latter.

Advis3r you are a nasty Jew. I don't like you.

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