Catholics, Jews, Teather and Ward


By MatthewHarris
February 12, 2013
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Top marks to the gay Jewish parents who have written to the Lib Dem MP Sarah Teather to dissent from Ms Teather's opposition to equal marriage (http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/102435/gay-jewish-parents-slam-catholi...). Slightly lower marks, perhaps, for the headline about "Catholic MP" - or am I being over-sensitive? Yes, I believe that Sarah Teather is indeed a Roman Catholic, and it is perhaps reasonable to mention her Catholicism in the context of reporting her views on gay marriage, but headlining it "Catholic MP", as if her Catholic identity was the only factor...Would we like it if the Catholic Herald gave a "Jewish MP" headline to a story about liberal Catholics writing to a Jewish MP to complain about the MP's conservative stance on gay marriage? I wonder. Incidentally, since last year's reshuffle, Sarah Teather is no longer, as the story would have it, a minister.

Re:- David Ward, by the way, I have written:

There's an old joke in which a beggar asks a distinguished gentleman for money in the street, and the distinguished gentleman pompously replies: "'Neither a borrower nor a lender be' - William Shakespeare." To which the beggar responds: "'F**k you' - David Mamet."
I am reminded of this joke by the fact that, while David Ward has called in aid a quotation in his defence from Noam Chomsky (http://davidward.org.uk/en/article/2013/658628/noam-chomsky-defends-davi...), Mr Ward has inadvertently omitted to also inform his readers that Elie Wiesel, whom Mr Ward had previously also quoted in his own defence (http://davidward.org.uk/en/article/2013/654457/bradford-mp-condemns-isra...), has said: "Although he (Mr Ward) quotes me correctly, I am outraged that he uses my words at the same time he utters shameless slanders on the State of Israel" (http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2576/exclusive_nobel_laureate_elie...).

Leaving aside the fact that Noam Chomsky's 9/11 nincompoopery has left him widely discredited (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2011/05/c...), and also leaving aside the fact that Mr Chomsky's eminence in semiotics (not that I am antisemiotic) does not especially qualify him to comment on the specifics of what is and isn't considered acceptable language in British political discourse, I note with sad amusement that Mr Ward informs us on his website that Mr Chomsky was due to speak via video link at some ghastly-sounding London conference of "Not in my name!" people, alongside a bunch of illiberal Labour MPs and Respect Party types (http://tenyearson.org.uk/).

With more at: http://matthewfharris.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/ward-wiesel-chomsky-and-car...

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joemillis1959

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 19:47

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Hippurus, si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses


joemillis1959

Wed, 02/13/2013 - 19:47

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Catholics, Jews, Teather and Ward. Is that the name of a law firm?

Also, why no outrage over Toryboy Aidan Burley? He'll be in the next parliament, still with the Tory Whip, while Ward probably won't be. Seems to me that being part of a Nazi fancy dress party and tweeting about being bored at a holocaust Remembrance event is just as bad/stupid as Ward's comments, whether they were made in private or not. And as a public figure, Burley has no expectation of privacy.

Not trivialising either case. Merely pointing out double standards.


Rich Armbach

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 11:52

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I guess there are just so many witch hunts the Hasborafia can conduct at any one time..


happygoldfish

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 12:06

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joemillis1959: … why no outrage over Toryboy Aidan Burley?

aidan burley's alleged racism was in private, he would have preferred it to remain so, and he expects to lose votes because of it

david ward's racism is (still) on his website, he wants everyone to see it, and he expects to win votes because of it

moreover, aidan burley appears to have promised not to repeat the offence, while david ward appears to have reaffirmed the offence despite the chief whip's "final warning"

joemillis1959: … Seems to me that being part of a Nazi fancy dress party and tweeting about being bored at a holocaust Remembrance event is just as bad/stupid as Ward's comments …

aidan burley's behaviour is likely to stir up hatred of tories,

david ward's behaviour is designed to stir up hatred of jews

joe, you seem to me to be as anxious to trivialise ward's behaviour down to the level of burley's as ward is to trivialise the holocaust


Viv Hanshall

Thu, 02/14/2013 - 15:51

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Israeli settlements in the occupied territories violate Palestinians' human rights in ways designed to drive them off the land, a UN report states.

The report says settlements displace Palestinians, destroy their crops and property, and subject them to violence.

"The magnitude of violations relating to Israel's policies of dispossessions, evictions, demolitions and displacements from land shows the widespread nature of these breaches of human rights," Unity Dow, member of the fact-finding mission from Botswana, said in a statement.

"The motivation behind violence and intimidation against the Palestinians and their properties is to drive the local populations away from their lands, allowing the settlements to expand."


happygoldfish

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 19:32

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Viv Hanshall: Israeli settlements in the occupied territories violate Palestinians' human rights in ways designed to drive them off the land, a UN report states.

no, not a UN report, a UNHRC report, a report set up by a persistently anti-israel body

(see http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session... "Report of the independent international fact-finding mission to investigate the implications of the Israeli settlements on the civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of the Palestinian people throughout the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem "

this was a kangaroo court, with a deliberately non-independent membership:

  • Christine Chanet (Chair), who on 30/7/2010 accused israel of "total discrimination"
  • Asma Jahangir, un general assembly's highly non-independent "expert on religious freedom", who has for 7 years refused even to consider complaints about "state-sponsored hate-filled Saudi [and Egyptian] schoolbooks" (and sister of a member of the also biased unhrc 2009 "goldstone commission")
  • Unity Dow
  • these 3 "independent" judges do not mention the security reasons for israel's restrictions on the west bank palestinians, and blame all security measures on the existence of the settlements

    these 3 "independent" judges even, without citing any supporting evidence, accuse israel of being motivated by ethnic cleansing: "… the motivation behind this violence and the intimidation against the Palestinians as well as their properties is to drive the local populations away from their lands …"

    to use judicial language, these 3 "independent" "fact-finding" judges presumed israeli liability as already proven, and merely found facts that would be relevant to assessment of damages

    this "mission" was set up to ignore palestinian terrorism, and to blame all counter-terrorism measures on the settlements, and has perfectly fulfilled its mission

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