Time For Negotiations Has Passed


By Jon_i_Cohen
March 14, 2011
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Abbas' double game: His Fatah tipped to endorse Itamar murders

Mahmoud Abbas wants to ride the Arab uprisings bandwagon. Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas received a stern ticking-off when he called Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu Saturday night to condemn the savage murder Friday night by Palestinian terrorists of the parents and three small children of an Israeli family while they slept at their home at Itamar on the West Bank.

The Prime Minister knew Abbas had quietly ordered heads of his Fatah organization to throw its support behind the atrocity – which was why Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad was careful earlier to denounce "violence by any quarter" only in general terms.

In his address to the nation Saturday night, Netanyahu accused Palestinian leaders of hypocritically mouthing peace slogans abroad while promoting anti-Israel incitation and propaganda on a daily basis in Palestinian schools and mosques.

He warned that terrorists would not be allowed to determine the settlement map.

debkafile's sources report that the Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) has been caught out playing a double game, which has yet to be fully clarified: Is he supporting an operation by the rival Islamist Hamas action so as to ride the Arab unrest galloping across the Middle East and boost his faltering prestige at home? Is he trying to stir up another Palestinian uprising (intifada)?

It would appear that Abu Mazen is opportunistically hoping to exploit the Palestinian street's sympathy for the Arab uprisings and divert its anger over the corruption deeply entrenched in his regime by letting Fatah terrorists off the leash for a fresh wave of attacks on Israel that could fit the slogan of the Third Palestinian Uprising. Hamas adherents might even rally behind his leadership.

Israeli security chiefs fear that even if Abbas does not mean to let the violence go to those lengths, Fatah activists may take his sympathy for the Itamar outrage as the green light for more attacks. In the last two weeks, Palestinian organizations and left-wing elements in Israel and aboard have been pushing for a Palestinian Day of Rage on Tuesday, March 15 and for two days on March 20-21 the following week, which coincide with the Jewish festival of Purim. Israel's army, intelligence and police have been placed on the highest level of preparedness for terrorist attacks, focusing on the West Bank, Jerusalem and mixed Jewish-Arab towns until after Purim. Security measures have also been clamped down on West Bank traffic in a major operation to net the killers. Itamar has been declared a closed military zone.

This report from Debka is on the button

http://www.debka.com/article/20759/

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Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:06

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It is sad but true - the Arabs have a different moral code and a different concept of ethics to Jews and Christians.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:10

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No, Jon, they do not have a different moral code. Don't forget that that kind of allegation was levelled against Jews in the past. It's called anti-Semitism.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:13

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No, Joe, it is you who are wrong, the Arabs have a totally different moral and ethical code, go away and read a good transalation of the Koran and you will see for yourself.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:16

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Read the article above, read the news all over the internet
Celebrations in the Palestinian Territories, giving sweets out in the streets, not just one or two people but hundreds!!
They are animals, (sorry if I am insulting animals)!


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:18

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It is over now, they have blown it this time, the idea of an Independant (Arab) Palestinian State is finished.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:18

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I've no read for a translation, Jon, good or otherwise. I've read it in the original. It's a religious book, not dissimilar from our own.
Making sweeping generalisations about "the Arabs" is very similar to those who made sweeping generalisations about the Jews.
And giving yourself points is soooo naff.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:20

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Are you an Arabic Scholar?


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:21

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I am not making sweeping generalisations, I state fact supported by irefutable evicence that is widely available and in the public domain.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:21

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Ashrei hama'amin, as they say in Hebrew. If you think that, you are mistaken. For the good of Israel as the national homeland of the Jewish people, in the true interests of Zionism, there will be a Palestinian state on the West Bank, probably at some point confederated with Jordan. Otherwise it will, as Mick Davis correctly pointed out, slide towards apartheid. And I'm sure you don't want that, do you?


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:23

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Jon, that kind of sweeping generalisation was "fact supported by irefutable evidence" in the case of so many blood libels. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was also supposed to be "fact supported by irefutable evidence."


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:24

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I am sure you don't really support Mick Davis do you?
He has done the Jewish Community the biggest diservice and caused irreperable harm to Jews in the UK.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:28

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Mick Davis was just stating what most British Jews believe. Just look at the JPR poll regarding settlements, a two-state solution and even talking to Hamas. He knows of what he speaks. He did british Jews a great service. If you say amen to every Israeli policy then you lose all credibility.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:28

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Joe, I will para phrase you:-

For the good of Israel as the national homeland of the Jewish people, in the true interests of Zionism, there will NEVER be a Palestinian state on the West Bank, but, probably at some point confederated with Jordan, that is the solution


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:30

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That's not paraphrasing, that's imitating. It's flattering but never say never, Jon. I take it you aren't in favour of Israel as the democratic homeland of the Jewish people


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:30

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Davis does NOT know of what he speaks, he is allowed to pontificate because he has "deep pockets", that is all, If he did not have those "deep pockets" no one would know who he is nor what he said.
He is a self elected "big shot" that has caused us untold problems.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:32

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It is obvious and simple what I stand for:-
A State Of Israel
But NO (Arab) State of Palestine.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:33

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Well, at least Davis is that. Who are you, Jon? What's your great contribution? A few keyboards? Come on, get real. Israel can survive as the homeland of the Jewish nation only if it is willing to do away with arrogance and the false dream of holding on to the Golden Calf that is the settlements and the occupied territories.
Now that we know where we both stand, I suggest we let others chime in.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:33

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But what kind of State of Israel? A Zionist democratic one? Or an apartheid non-/anti-Zionist theocratic one?


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:34

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Good night, Jon


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:37

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Why don't we advocate giving it all back, next we give Jerusalem back?
Next we give Tel Aviv back?
Then we evacuate the entire Country and everyone goes back to Eastern Europe, (they can't go back to the Arab Countries)
Is that your plan Joe?


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:38

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Sorry Joe the Arabs and Mick Davis do NOT determine the boundaries of The State Of Israel!


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:41

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Joe, just read the article above, anyone who calls themselves a Jew cannot possibly think there is hope to negotiate with "these people"


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:50

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Jon, obviously Israel must determine its own border and if it had any sense it would determine that these excluded the occupied territories. But it is currently worshipping that golden calf and listening to those who either don't mind that it will become an apartheid state or will resort to multi-million expulsions.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:51

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And Jon, Debka is a bit of joke.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:56

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Using the word "apartheid" is a joke.
with 14 Arab members of the Knesset
Arab High Court Judges
Senior Arab IDF officers
it is just plain silly.


Joe Millis

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 18:00

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As Ben Dror Yemini, who is no left winger, pointed out, if house building is a consequence of this dreadful murder, then the opposite is true, and building houses in retribution is a self-defeating policy that let the PA off the hook.
Donniel Hartman was right, too. The settlements are a golden calf, and it's folly to tie the murder with building more homes. Bricks and mortar for flesh and blood. How morally corrupt is that?

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