Video of Jacques Rogge's Olympic Village remembrance of the Munich massacre


By Jonathan Hoffman
July 26, 2012
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2177778/London-2012-Ol...

But there should be one minute's silence in the Stadium ... can it really be that the IOC's policy stems from fear of the reactions of those nations opposed to Israel?

http://www.zionist.org.uk/?page_id=750

Please observe the silence at 11am tomorrow....

Postscript #1:

Of course the IOC has not been swayed by this kind of obscene argumentation ... has it ............:

The Palestinian Authority is against the moment of silence at the Olympics to commemorate the Israeli athletes murdered at the Munich Olympics in 1972. According to the headline in the official PA daily, "Sports are meant for peace, not for racism."

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=7189

Postscript #2:

Here's a report of the moving commemoration and 1 minute's silence held in Trafalgar Square London on the morning before the Opening Ceremony (Friday 27 July):

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/70539/silences-held-despite-iocs-refus...

Postscript #3:

The son of one of the victims explains the shocking reason why the IOC will never remember the Munich Massacre:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/07/27/why-ioc-will-never-memorialize...

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Real Real Zionist

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:25

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"can it really be that the IOC's policy stems from fear of the reactions of those nations opposed to Israel?"

He's a bright lad our Jonny


zaheerayin

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 11:09

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Don't worry, Jonathan...we know you're still there. Thank you for sharing.


AlistairClark

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 13:24

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It's not really fair,in an ideal world the Olympics should hold a minutes silence.I suppose its political reasoning,understandable but cruel.I have a few ideas of the pros and cons and I'd imagine they just want the games to go of without looking at any worries of how other countries may react.I'm sure there was retribution for the massacre on the part of Israel but some mistakes were made, other countries may react because of this.


zaheerayin

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:41

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From Wiki:

The kidnappers killed eleven Israeli athletes and coaches and a West German police officer. Five of the eight members of Black September were killed by police officers during a failed rescue attempt. The three surviving assassins were captured, but later released by West Germany following the hijacking by Black September of a Lufthansa Flight 181 airliner. Israel responded to the killings with Operation Spring of Youth and Operation Wrath of God, during which Palestinians suspected of involvement in the massacre were systematically tracked down and killed by Israeli intelligence and special forces. The Israeli operations killed one innocent in Norway and four passersby in Lebanon, with 18 others injured during the killing of Ali Hassan Salameh.[11][12]


Skovronek2

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:57

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I am sure that if there is a minute of silence, the innocents killed by the Israelis in the aftermath, will be on the list of those being commemorated.


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 09:16

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Pal watch. Jonathan is not any sewer you are not happy to swim in ?


Real Real Zionist

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 09:46

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Just be grateful he didn't link to IsraelNationalNews or CifWatch.


suzanna

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 11:35

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Have to agree with zaheerayin on this one.

If there were to be a minute of silence we have to respect the other innocents who were slaughtered by Israel.

zaheerayin - do these innocents have names?


Advis3r

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:29

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How quaint of suzanna to use the word "slaughter" - if the 11 Israeli athletes had not been murdered no one would have been "slaughtered"; cause and effect and all that.
Meanwhilst her pin up boys in the PA have sent a letter to the head of the IOC thanking him for refusing the minute's silence - lowlives!


suzanna

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 13:48

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Whilst on the subject of the Olympics Keith Allen (father of Lilly for the younger generation)has released his Olympic Anthem.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a388771/keith-allen-unveils-fit-l...


suzanna

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:27

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'"We must not let people forget and the groundswell of support that our campaign has received has demonstrated that not only do people remember the horrific events of Munich, but they also understand the importance of remembering it and the innocent victims of that fateful day."

200 people (not verified) is hardly a 'groundswell'.
I mean the local bike group got 10,000 to attend their rally earlier this year in central London - and it was humming down with rain on the day!

It's clear that the IOC is not going to do any more than it has as the occupation is contentious and there are victims on both sides. Honour all the victims and then justice can be applied equally.


joshua789

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 14:41

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This is a 'groundswell' of support:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/independence_for_palestine_en/


happygoldfish

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 15:02

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suzanna: 200 people (not verified) is hardly a 'groundswell'..

"only" 110,000 signatures so far!

suzanna: It's clear that the IOC is not going to do any more than it has as the occupation is contentious and there are victims on both sides

the attack on 11 olympians in the olympic village and their subsequent murder is not contentious

everyone (including you) agrees it was wrong

the request for a minute of silence in the olympic stadium is not for political or racist reasons

the opposition to the minute for silence is for political and racist reasons


suzanna

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 15:11

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(Please drop the babyish emoticons)

The deaths in Munich were wrong - on that we agree.
However the damp squib of hysteria drummed up by the Zionists is absolutely political as it is another attempt to dehumanise the Palestinians (all terrorists) portray Israel as the victim - when in fact it is Israel that is occupying the West Bank and the occupied, the disenfranchised and the powerless are the Palestinians.

Why should the international community be silent in the face of this 50 year occupation?

There are other victims in this world you know.


happygoldfish

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 16:10

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suzanna: … damp squib of hysteria drummed up by the Zionists …

for you, any complaint by jews is hysteria

and who are these "Zionists"?

you mean "Jews"

suzanna: … it is another attempt to dehumanise the Palestinians (all terrorists) …

you just made that up!

that is ludicrous

how does a minute of silence for 11 murdered olympians dehumanise anyone? …

how does it in any way indicate that its supporters believe that all palestinians were (still less, are) terrorists?

you try to dress up your opposition to the minute of silence in a veneer of respectability

by a groundless accusation that it is racist


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Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:30

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AlistairClark

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:02

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Ms goldfish,Its unfair putting words in the mouths of others.How do you know Ms Suzanna meant Jews? Do you think Zionists and Jews are interchangeable ? You speak of racism, what race do you speak of? There are many WW2 holocaust survivors who would argue that Jews are not a race . How can one convert to a race?I think that opposition to the minutes silence in an opposition to Israeli policy and not the spouses and family's of deceased Israeli athletes and certainly not an opposition of Jews.I feel really sorry for the deceased athletes family's and wonder If the Israeli Gov set them up for hurt and disappointment,I'm sure Israel already knew that a minutes silence would be opposed on the grounds of sensitivity to the situation in the M.E.


happygoldfish

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:54

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AlistairClark: You speak of racism, what race do you speak of? There are many WW2 holocaust survivors who would argue that Jews are not a race . How can one convert to a race?

ah i see!

you're one of those people who think "we can say anything we like against jews without being accused of racism because jews aren't a race …

so there's no such thing as racism against jews!"


Advis3r

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:58

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Mr Clark you have obviously not heard of anti-Israel racism with which one of your countrymen was convicted last year seehttp://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/05/01/3094406/scottish-university-student-loses-appeal-of-anti-israel-racism-conviction

You see much like it is racist to caste slurs on Scotsman as Scotsman it is also racist to caste slurs on Israelis as Israelis. The action of the IOC in refusing to honour murdered Olympians simply because they were Israelis as well as Jews will go down in the annals of infamy - how you would have the temerity suggest that this possibly could have anything to do with Israeli policies beggars belief - aren't politics and sport supposed to be separate or so we keep being told.
These were sportsman who were murdered simply for the crime of being Israelis. The terrorists who perpetrated 7/7 were also against UK foreign policy so should not the IOC have refused a minute's silence for the those murdered then since this was an overtly political attack. No it seems obvious that where Israel is concerned there is a separate law for us and a separate law for everyone else. Your further deceitful and disingenuous suggestion that they were set up by the Government of Israel is nothing more than one has come to expect from you.


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 17:26

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happygoldfish

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 17:57

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Skovronek2: If this is true, it is disgusting.

skovronek, for no apparent reason, is linking to a website (i won't link to it) which is deliberately run with the sole purpose of publishing lies and half-truths to disparage an invited jc.com blogger

(taking over, apparently, from chris tucker, who repeatedly did the same and seems to have been banned for it )


AlistairClark

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 12:33

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Ms,Happy.I ask you again please stop putting words in my mouth.Who said you could not be racist towards Jews?I'd like to point out to you that a Jew can be from any race,in Scotland we call Jews Mr or an appropriate title but most of all a Scot is a Scot no matter what religion he or she chooses to practice. Mr Advis3r Firstly I already cast an opinion on the Jsoc blog on the matter of the idiot student. On the matter of the ioc .Why do you say the minutes silence was denied because the victims are Jews? What proof do you have of this?" how you would have the temerity suggest that this possibly could have anything to do with Israeli policies beggars belief - aren't politics and sport supposed to be separate or so we keep being told"I be bold enough to suggest the refusal of the minutes silence is to do with Israeli policy because I believe it to be true.Israel's behaviour towards the Palestinians disgusts most right minded people.Do you honestly believe in you heart that had the minutes silence went through that it would have not have worked or have been worked in anyway against the Palestinians?If it was not political then why were Israeli politicians pushing for a minutes silence? Would Israel be happy if a minutes silence took place but with an extra minutes silence for all the innocent people Israel murdered due to Israelis being murdered at Munich.


joshua789

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 12:48

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Happy Goldfish - The link to the website - which you dare not mention - has that bothersome picture of Hoffman, that cabbie bloke and members of the EDL standing shoulder to shoulder. I'll repeat that: members of the EDL plus Hoffman (and the cabbie) standing in support of each other.


Advis3r

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 13:14

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Israel's behaviour to the Palestinians disgusts most right minded people - and your evidence for this is what - the Guardian? No Israeli of whatever political or religious persuasion is happy with the position in which we find ourselves and which was never of our choosing. Your outrageous suggestion that a minutes' silence for 11 sportsmen killed by terrorism is not worthy of remembrance simply because the victims were Israelis and the perpetrators were Palestinians and "it would have not have worked or have been worked in anyway against the Palestinians" is not even worthy of rebuttal - so I won't simply to ask are you therefore suggesting that in the general public's mind the terrorists who murdered the Israelis are representative of Palestinians? If so you don't think very much of the Palestinians or give the public much credit for discerning between what is right and what is wrong.
Your last sentence is a travesty of morality - should the Allies therefore not have killed any innocent German civilians in WWII in pursuit of a victory over Nazism whether by design or inadvertence?


Advis3r

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 13:16

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Joshua have the courage of your convictions and print your name and address and repeat the libel in your previous post.
I have no doubt however that the coward that you are, you will not do so.


joshua789

Thu, 08/02/2012 - 13:22

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Jose - you are dozy.

The photograph is there for all to see. Hoffman and the EDL standing shoulder to shoulder (and the cab driver!)

What's your name and address by the way?


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