Rally to support Israel's right to self defence


By Jonathan Hoffman
November 14, 2012
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Here's the IAF's targetted assassination of Hamas terrorist Ahmed Jabari.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1eUAMzwsZU&list=UUdrTcG5tK06ogMP2L-hwtlw...

Targetted - Notice the care not to harm civilians close to him ...

Jabri was the head of Hamas’ military wing in Gaza. He was directly responsible for financing and executing terror attacks against Israel. In 2006, Jabari masterminded the attack that led to the murder of Israeli soldiers and the brutal capture of Gilad Shalit. As head of Hamas' negotiations team, Jabri prevented the release of Gilad Shalit for over five years. Jabri had close connections with Sheikh Yassin. From 1982 until January 1995 Jabri was arrested and imprisoned in Israel. During this time he joined Hamas, serving as the representative for all Hamas and Islamic Jihad members in his prison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW5ixG8pM1A&feature=player_embedded

As this video shows Jabri used antisemitic incitement to urge the destruction of Israel:

Brave Jihad fighters, You sacrifice your souls for the sake of Allah, until the rats [Israelis] return to their holes. Today Gaza [was liberated by Hamas], and tomorrow, by Allah's will, Jerusalem, and tomorrow the West Bank, and then Haifa, Jaffa, and Tel Aviv. Until the liberation of the homeland, all of Palestine.

ZF Statement:

Following a relentless barrage of rocket attacks into Southern Israel, Israel has launched Operation Pillar of Cloud. From 2005 until Operation Cast Lead, 5000 rockets were fired into Israel. In this calendar year alone 800 rockets have been fired into Israel. More than 125 rockets and mortars have fallen on Israel since Saturday afternoon.

The duty of any government is to ensure the security of its inhabitants and this is why Israel will target those who seek their destruction.

Tomorrow night, Thursday 15th November, the PSC will be demonstrating outside the Israeli Embassy and using the line "To counter Israel's killing spree in Gaza".

The Zionist Federation is organising a counter demonstration from 17.30-19.30 tomorrow night at the Israeli Embassy.

Please come

So far during this operation the head of Hamas’s terrorist wing in Gaza, Ahmed Jabari, has been killed. Israel has killed Ahmed Jabari due to his decade long terrorist activity, which has played a major role in killing Israeli civilians. Additionally, eight terrorists were killed in surgical attacks over Khan Yunis in response to continued rocket fire. There are also rumours that a third Hamas commander has been killed. IDF Spokesperson Brigadier General Mordechai said “The coming days ahead will be most difficult but we will restore security to the south and the IDF can continue for as long as necessary.”

The Zionist Federation will stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel in its fight against those who seek to destroy it. We will show Israel's diplomats in the UK that there is always support against blind hatred of Israel.

Notice Jeremy Bowen's despicable, vicious suggestion that Israel's leaders are prepared to sacrifice human life for electoral reasons:

Israel says it killed the Hamas military leader because he had a lot of blood on his hands - and as an answer to Palestinian rocket fire. But there will be questions about the timing of Israel's action. The Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called an election in January. In the past, military strikes have been used to send messages about the toughness of Israeli leaders.

- Jeremy Bowen, BBC website

May the IDF have every success in the swift elimination of all Hamas terrorists; may all IDF soldiers return safely from Gaza missions; and may civilian casualties in Gaza be even lower than in Cast Lead.

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Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 10:18

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As my dear late father z"l would have said "May the chaleria Bowen get what I wish him and soon!"


Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 10:34

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Note the difference as brought to you by the BBC

Israel kills Hamas military chief

compared to

Gaza rocket fire kills Israelis

The rockets from Gaza obviously have a mind of their own and are free from human interference.


Harvey

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 10:56

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Second that !


Goldie G. Tobin

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 11:57

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You people make me feel ill.

Nasty Jews.


Real Real Zionist

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 12:19

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Yes all this tragedy and potential tragedy and all Hoff sees is an opportunity to draw attention to himself. At what for regular people is a time of solemnity and trepidation all Harv and Jose can do is bitch like a couple of La Rochelle fish wives.


AlistairClark

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 12:22

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I'm gutted for civilians on both sides! People are worried on both sides and Adviser is worried about propaganda.


AlistairClark

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 12:36

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RRZ.It Beggars Belief People are dieing and all they seem to care about is whether or not the BBC is reporting from an Israeli narrative.


AlistairClark

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 12:36

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RRZ.It Beggars belief People are dieing and all they seem to care about is whether or not the BBC is reporting from an Israeli narrative.


joemillis1959

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 14:26

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Some thoughts on the situation in Gaza and southern Israel. Israel as an absolute right to self-defence, but we need to look beyond sloganising.

Israel and Hamas have both provoked this round for cynical domestic political motives. It diverts attention away from the disastrous economic and social policies of both governments.

That's why Netanyahu was forced to call early elections - he couldn't pass an austerity budget that would have hit the lower and middle classes harder than they are being hit already. He knows that the start up nation's miracle economy's bubble is about to burst and go t*ts up. And he knows that when it does, he'll be blamed and questions will be asked about all the funds he's wasted on the settlements and yeshivot. That's why he lost the 1996 election; his Thatcherite policies didn't go down too well - even with his core voters in the development towns. Did you know, for instance, that the Israeli government spends several times more on settlers than it does on those in Israel proper? Netanyahu's Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz admitted as much only last week.

And Hamas, instead of investing the billions it gets from the donor nations and other sources such as the IMF in infrastructure and education, Ismail Haniyeh puts on futile displays of strength, knowing full well it'll garner a strong response. Just as he likes it. But doing that means he will end up like Sadat or King Abdullah I.

Hamas plays along because it needs Netanyahu to stay in power and it too cynically uses its population for self-preservation just like Netanyahu does. If Netanyahu really cared about the people of southern Israel, his government would help build their local infrastructure and education with funds diverted from vanity projects such as the settlements and the yeshivot. Sderot, Ofakim, Netivot, Dimona, Beersheba and Eilat need proper high-speed train lines and roads. The Negev should be home to a new international airport; Ben-Gurion has expanded way beyond capacity and being in central Israel poses a danger to people there. Think Boris Johnson's excellent idea of a new airport in the Thames Estuary, which will take traffic away from London, and translate that to the Negev - a huge outlay of money, but it will be an investment and employment magnet. An airport with proper transport links north and south will do far more for the Negev's industry and tourism that the tit for tat escalation of attack and counter-attack. And when Israel needs to build homes for the 350,000 settlers who eventually will have to move back to Israel, what better place than a properly resourced Negev. That's what the Zionism of Ben-Gurion was all about, in case anyone forgot.

However, doing that would mean that Netanyahu would really anger his far right partners and end up like Yitzhak Rabin. No, this operation is designed to save bibi and Haniyeh because that's all bibi and Haniyeh care about. And just like Bibi needs Haniyeh, Haniyeh needs Bibi, so that they can both stir the pot every so often when it looks like people start to realise what sh+t creek they both have led them up.


Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:07

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First of all it is obvious that Goldie Tobin belongs in a home for the criminally insane.
Secondly Alistair I absolutely agree with you - how can one be talking about the BBC when perople are dying. However the problem Israel faces is that the MSM and the BBC/Guardian in particular portray Israel in a totally negative light. The ordinary Englishman sitting on the top deck of a Clapham Omnibus has no idea that since the beginning of this year thousands of rockets have been fired by Hamas and its colleagues from Gaza into Israel because the British MSM do not consider that newsworthy. The BBC's listeners only hear part of it when Israel is forced to retaliate so they think Israel's actions are totally unwaranted you only have to go on some of the news websites to see comments left by posters who have no idea what Israelis living in the south of the country face on a daily basis. And then as we see the rockets fired from Gaza are dehumanized as if they have been fired of their own accord i.e. in your mind you have no one to attach blame. I do not want the news from an Israeli perspective I want it from an objective perspective it certainly is not that now and whilst this continues Israel will always be in the wrong whether it is or it is not.
Millis claims that Israel and Hamas have both provoked this round for cynical domestic political motives. It diverts attention away from the disastrous economic and social policies of both governments.
I disagree this whole escalation has been engineered by the Hamas' puppet masters the Iranians. They are now close to achieving the construction of their first nuclear bomb and so need the world's attention drawn away from them and a conflict in Gaza is made for it. Secondly they are doing it to ensure an end to the Egypt/Israel peace treaty which is already teetering. Thirdly they are doing it to divert attention from their allies Syria. have you noticed that that is now off the front page?
Millis first I think it is cynical in the extreme to believe that Netanyahu has done this for political reasons. This has been forced on Israel because it was in danger of totally losing its deterrent edge.I think you underestimate the Israeli public when you think that they will allow their politicians to go to war for political reasons. If Netanyahu fails to achieve the objectives he will be gone - if there are substantial Israeli casualties he will be gone and Netanyahu is no fool. As with Operation Caste Lead only Meretz is against it - being the Surrender Party it is easy to understand why.
350,000 "settlers" will not be moving anywhere. Should the Palestinians come to their senses kick out the corrupt politicians who have lead them up the garden path and accept a realistic deal - or pragmatic as you choose to call it at the most communities away from the major blocs will be vacated but the main blocs will remain. At most 30,000 or so people will need to be rehoused - the Americans will have to pay for that. However I very much doubt there is one Palestinian leader ready to do that they prefer posturing at the UN.


Harvey

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:28

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http://bbcwatch.org/2012/11/15/pallywood-courtesy-of-the-bbc/

Pallywood at its best . Check the guy on the stretcher . Then 30 seconds
Later . What do you know . It's a miracle . He's standing again . Praise be The Lord !


Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:31

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You said it yourself - Everyone supported Lebanon 82 when they believed the lie about 45 days and 45 kilometres. The support soon ebbed away when the lies were exposed and the depth of the quagmire became apparent.What happened to Begin as a consequence?

If this was happening at the beginning of January then your cynicism may be better placed but not now. Saying it is politicking is politicking itself.

You might want to read this piece by Guy Bechor:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4304544,00.html

The world and his brother is telling us to jump in the pool "and take a chance on peace" what happens if we are insane enough to accept their advice and more likely than not (going on past experiences) it all goes horribly wrong - will those same people put it all right again. I doubt it.


Harvey

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:31

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More on Pallywood Oscar winning performance.
http://honestreporting.com/exposed-pallywood-returns-to-gaza/


joemillis1959

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:31

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Norman, mate, I never said I wasn't cynical, and when it comes to the Israeli public, and especially the right's core voters, bread and circuses has always worked. So what if Meretz is the only party against it, sort of. And loads of wars have been started because "everyone was supporting it".

Everyone supported Lebanon 82 when they believed the lie about 45 days and 45 kilometres. The support soon ebbed away when the lies were exposed and the depth of the quagmire became apparent. Begin had to do something because in April that year he'd given back the whole of Sinai. He needed to shore up his support and used the attempted assassination of London ambassador Shlomo Argov by an Abu Nidal anti-PLO operative to launch a campaign against… the PLO. And for his friends among the Falangists. That cynical act really worked out well, didn't it?

The centrist parties are clamouring for the same votes as Netanyahu, who cares only about Netanyahu, not about the poor people of the south.

You are wrong about Hamas being allied with Syria - they've just been kicked out of Damascus, so this isn't for the benefit of Assad or Iran for that matter - it's for local consumption. Hamas has recently faced food demos - Haniyyeh needs to shore up his support, just like Netanyahu- and this escalation plays for both of them.

Netanyahu and Haniyeh need each other in power.

As for the settlements in the blocs. Don't be silly.


Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:36

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And Alistair heres one for you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233248/BBC-picture-editors-11-m...

Harrowing pictures indeed but note the guy's sweater changes from picture to picture - this is what Israel has to contend with - all staged to fool decent people like you into believing a complete lie!


Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:43

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Millis this is all done to further Iranian aims in the Middle East. Israel would have taken this action whether or not there was an election.
As Ron ben Yishai explained after an anti-tank missile injured four soldiers and rockets continued to pound southern Israel, the government and security establishment reached the conclusion that the terror groups in Gaza are not deterred and that the threat on the residents of south and central Israel is growing. Therefore, Israel decided to restore its deterrence through a series of painful attacks on top military figures and assets belonging to all the terror organizations in Gaza, with an emphasis on Hamas.
Syria kicking out Hamas has no bearing - Iran sponsors both Syria and Hamas. This is a warning to Iran too.


joemillis1959

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:48

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Norman, this is all done to further domestic political needs on both sides.

It seems also that the rocket firers aren't deterred much now - even during the Israeli offensive. I doubt, too, that the Mullahs are that deterred either. Bombing Sudan didn't deter them. Bombing the Syrian nuclear reactor didn't deter them. Bombing Gaza won't deter them either.


Advis3r

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 15:54

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Well talking to them doesn't help at all! They say one thing to you and quite another to their own people. Example Abu Mazen's interview on Channel 2 when he did/did not depending on who you ask give up the so-called "right of return".
So what do you suggest? Let them fire rockets whenever they feel like it? Just asking.


joemillis1959

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 16:06

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It would be better if both sides were actually serious about reaching an agreement. I don't believe either side is mature enough. Just as no Israeli leader has the political courage or will to tell the electorate that that playing the victim and 47 years of occupation have been a waste of human life and resources, no Palestinian leader has the political courage or will to tell his or her people that playing the victim, the armed struggle and demanding the right of return have got them precisely nowhere.

What would I do? isolate Hamas by trying at least to reach an agreement with the neighbours. But that ain't gonna happen for the reasons mentioned above. So it's business as usual until someone of some real standing properly knocks some heads together. Until then, the whole situation will ebb, flow and fester.

So to quote Genesis (not the book)

"Lets skip the news boy (Ill make some tea)
The arabs and the jews boy (too much for me)
They get me confused boy (puts me off to sleep)
And the thing I hate - oh lord!
Is staying up late, to watch some debate, on some nation's fate."
It's from Wind and the Wuthering and it's as depressing as the situation in Gaza and the Negev.


joemillis1959

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 16:26

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This might make some interesting reading, it's by Rabbi Gideon Sylvester of the United Synagogue, probably the best Chief Rabbi Britain won't have.


Ben F

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 16:46

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"At most 30,000 or so people will need to be rehoused - the Americans will have to pay for that."

I suppose so. They pay for everything else down your way.


joemillis1959

Thu, 11/15/2012 - 18:05

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I'm off to the rally now. Hope the EDL won't pollute it with their presence


J.Clifford

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 14:21

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Joe I've told you before I have recently spent some time in Sderot, Ofakim, and Beersheba and I have already told you that high-speed train lines are coming and some roads are already there. I also told you that EVERY apartment block has had safe rooms added to each floor. Every bus shelter has been turned in to a safe room. In every park there are safe rooms within reach.

I am going back next week to visit friends in Sderot and Kibbutz Alumin and ask the residents themselves about your missives.


joemillis1959

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 14:45

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Janet, I appreciate what you have written. Unfortunately, promises of high-speed trains have been around for the past 40 years, and a quick look at my latest Karta road map (from earlier this year) shows me that roads in the northern Negev leave a huge amount to be desired.

Schools in the south of Israel are among the poorest performing, and have been like that since before the rockets started. Would that successive Israeli governments had invested in them.

I too am in Israel next week, travelling around the country, meeting friends at Kerem Shalom and other places. Will also pop into Sderot and Ofakim.


happygoldfish

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 18:10

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another rally has been reported by the jc, this time a pro-palestinian one on the grassy roof of the scottish parliament

(ten people have been arrested and charged)

but why has the jc published a photo of the rally taken by the protesters themselves? (see http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/91922/police-detain-gaza-scottish-parl...)

i] presumably the jc has to pay a copyright fee to the credited photographer "weareallhanashalabi", who seems to be connected to the group "We Are All Hana Shalabi" protesting?

ii] if the rooftop part of the protest was visible from the ground, presumably there were other photographs, taken from the ground?

(the only other photos i can find on the web are of protesters on lower balconies, not on the roof)

ii] from the look of the photograph, the protesters must have been almost invisible from the ground, so the jc's publication of it is giving them publicity which they could not otherwise have achieved


zaheerayin

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 18:51

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Happy goldfish, you really do need to do something about that quivering lower lip of yours.

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