Open email to Simon Hughes MP


By Jonathan Hoffman
September 20, 2012
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Dear Mr Hughes

How many Israeli deaths will you accept to implement your preferred 'One State' solution?

Because most Israelis - Jews and non-Jews - would never volunteer to sign away the Jewish State.

Do you think there might be a reason that there are no LibDem Ministers in the Foreign Office?

And since you have a long history of anti-Israel comments, what makes you think anyone - apart from the usual exremists from the PSC and ISM - is going to listen to you?

Example: Saying that Operation Cast Lead was "disproportionate and self-defeating".

And if you think that Jews should not have their own State, how come you support the right of LibDems to have their own Party? On your logic the LibDems should be absorbed by one of the larger two Parties - and moreover the LibDems should have no say in which one it is.

Yours sincerely
Jonathan Hoffman

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joemillis1959

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 14:26

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Goldfish

uhh?
israel makes a huge concession without anything in return, and you say that disables the peace process?

I was quoting Dov Weissglass, Ariel Sharon's bagman at the time of the disengagement.

you don't think gazan residents' lives are controlled by hamas?

Not as much as Israel does

Lunch time over


Advis3r

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 14:31

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"I made a huge concession once. I took this guys watch." The fake Zionist has admitted that he is a thief and by analogy he accuses the Jews of stealing what belongs to them. As I said if it walks like one and quacks like one ... What amazes me is that he thinks he is being perfectly reasonable.


happygoldfish

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 15:12

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joemillis1959: I was quoting Dov Weissglass, Ariel Sharon's bagman at the time of the disengagement.

oh, you're referring to haaretz's alleged 2004 interview with him at http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/top-pm-aide-gaza-plan-aims-to-... ?

he immediately (from holiday abroad) said his comments were "taken out of context" (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/sharon-clarifies-weisglass-s-c...) …

He explained that Israel is prevented from participating in a diplomatic process because of the situation, in which the Palestinians persist with terrorism.
The senior adviser said Israel hopes for a change in the Palestinian side that will result in a diplomatic process.
Weisglass also emphasized Israel's support for the road map, which he said is based on the principle that no diplomatic talks will begin before an end to terrorism.

and prime minister ariel sharon immediately contradicted his remarks (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/sharon-clarifies-weisglass-s-c...) …

Sharon said he supports the road map, the international-sponsored plan calling for a process that will eventually result in the creation of a Palestinian state.

The prime minister added that "in the absence of a Palestinian [negotiating] partner, the government initiated the disengagement plan to bolster Israel's diplomatic standing, improve its ability to defend its citizens, and ease the suffering of the civilian population."
Sharon said the disengagement plan was meant to serve "until the time at which a Palestinian partner could be found who would fulfill all the required commitments in the road map, and with whom it would be possible to hold diplomatic negotiations and move ahead toward peace."

anyway, you chose to repeat the description …

joemillis1959: … unilateral disengagement was meant to put the peace process in formaldehyde …

… that israel disabled the peace process by making a huge concession (in withdrawing from gaza) without anything in return!

joemillis1959

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 15:25

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Goldfish

oh, you're referring to haaretz's alleged 2004 interview with him at http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/top-pm-aide-gaza-plan-aims-to-... ?
he immediately (from holiday abroad) said his comments were "taken out of context" (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/sharon-clarifies-weisglass-s-c...) …

And the rest of the quotes.

As Mandy Rice-Davies said: "Well, he would, wouldn't he?""


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 10:37

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Yes, it was Weisglass who said that the object was to put the peace process in formaldehyde. It was also Weissglass who said "we put them on a diet".

Extracts from the list of items that Israel has excluded from Gaza (fuller list available upon request): lentils, pasta,carrots,pumpkins,green almonds, pomegranates, sage, cardamon, jam, vinegar, chocolate, fruit preserves and dried fruit, seeds and nuts, biscuits and sweets, fresh meat, fabric for clothing, fishing rods, musical instruments, writing implements, notebooks, newspapers, toys, razors, heaters, horses, donkeys, goats, cattle, and chicks

All in the name of "security", you understand. Understandable when you consider the number of Israelis that have been blown up by lentil bombs.

“The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger.”


happygoldfish

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 18:55

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from liberal democrat deputy leader simon hughes' letter in a recent jc …

responsibility for decisions about the future of the jewish homeland lies solely with the government in Tel Aviv …

is it really appropriate for the lib dems to have a deputy leader who pontificates on the middle east with a grasp of facts (or a regard for truth) so feeble that he thinks that israel is ruled from inside a big orange?

or a london chairman  (bbc correspondent jonathan fryer, lib dem parliamentary candidate and chairman of the london lib dems) with a similar grasp?

Jonathan Fryer: Especially if cases of war crimes are launched against the Israeli Defence Force and the government in Tel Aviv.

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