Jihad Jenny Threatens to Quit the LibDems over Salah Detention


By Jonathan Hoffman
June 30, 2011
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At a meeting in a House of Commons Committee Room last night where I was present, “Jihad” Jenny Tonge spoke about “the power of the Israel Lobby”. Her remarks were in connection with the Home Secretary’s decision to arrest and deport Sheikh Raeed Salah (who had been billed to address the meeting). She declared herself “ashamed” at the action of a government of which the LibDems (her Party) are a member and said “I am carefully considering my position in my Party”.

Go on Jihad Jenny – I’ll lay odds that if you resign the words “Good Riddance” will be on Nick Clegg’s lips. I doubt he has forgotten your antisemitic comments in 2006: "The pro-Israeli lobby has got its grips on the western world, its financial grips. I think they've probably got a grip on our party."

Most of the speakers at the meeting agreed that the banning of Salah was down to the all-powerful “Israel Lobby”.

Er ..how about the outrages catalogued here?

http://thecst.org.uk/blog/?p=2639

http://hurryupharry.org/2011/06/29/raed-salah-sitting-in-a-cell-awaiting...

Salah has been charged with incitement to racism and violence:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/islamic-movement-head-charged-with-incitemen...

I for one congratulate the Home Secretary. As the CST says, "The Government, therefore, is to be congratulated on its Prevent strategy and its efforts to better control those who would import and promote such politics (with its attendant hatreds) into the UK."

At the start of the meeting Jeremy Corbyn MP - who almost always hosts these meetings in Parliament demonising Israel - made his usual hypocritical, utterly hollow and mendacious declaration that "All on this Panel abhor racism of any kind". What a sick joke, Jeremy......

Sarah Colbourne of the PSC claimed that the ‘Lobby’ had ensured Salah’s arrest in order to stop his legal actions (against Andrew Gilligan of the Telegraph and Robyn Rosen of the JC.).; Diana Neslen (JFJFP) spoke about “those with certain influence”.

Other lowlights of the meeting:

Hassassian (Palestinian so-called “Ambassador”): “Rightwing fascist Israeli government … Israel is above international law .. supported unequivocally by the International Police – the USA”

Ismail Patel: The watchword of the early Zionists was “a land without a people for a people without a land” [False quote: no Zionist ever said this]

Lord Dubs: “Israel is its own worst enemy”. He spoke with horror about seeing 14- and 15-year old boys in shackles in a military Court in the West Bank but when I asked him what crime they were accused of, he didn’t have a clue .. he even suggested they were not accused of any crime …

Diana Neslen (JFJFP): JFJFP has issued a statement deploring the arrest and banning of Saleh. (This puts them firmly in the extremist camp). Her talk “as-a-Jew” was no more than a tirade of vilification of Israel and Israeli Jews: “Jews do not see the citizens of the West Bank as worthy of human rights”.

Shame on her and shame on her miserable craven organisation.

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Joe Millis

30 June, 2011 - 11:22

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Jonathan, I think you'll find that it was Israel Zangwill who said that "Palestine is a country without a people; the Jews are a people without a country" - which is pretty much the same as saying “a land without a people for a people without a land”. It's all a question of semantics, and you don't want to be seen as being anti-Semantic.
Israel has been known to nab kids in the West Bank and accuse them of all manner of things. That's what occupational forces do. It feels good when it acts like a bully. Let's not deny truths. It's bad enough the hasbarah machine in Israel started lying over the flotilla. If it starts doing that, how can anyone ever believe any of Israel's claims again?
Some of the actions of the current Israeli government (loyalty laws, "patriotic" education, reception committee law that enhance ghettoisation) do have fascistic undertones. Some of the comments by state-paid rabbis are fascistic - but they are never condemned.

Harvey

30 June, 2011 - 12:04

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Millis
What are your thoughts on the comments concerning the all powerful lobby Jonathan refers to . Do you recognize it for what it is ,ie a barely concealed allusion to the hideous canard of Jews controlling world affairs . Do you condemn without reservation , these insidious remarks . Do you acknowledge the fact that in reality , it is the Arab lobby and oil that pulls the strings of our foreign policy .
I look forward to your response with interest

Jonathan Hoffman

30 June, 2011 - 12:07

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http://www.meforum.org/1877/a-land-without-a-people-for-a-people-without

@Millis aka Teklegram Sam

You are wrong about Zangwill as you are wrong about pretty much everything.

Guess that makes you a useful contra-indicator, though ....

Joe Millis

30 June, 2011 - 12:40

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It was Israel Zangwill what said that. As an alleged Zionist, Jonathan, you should have known that. Perhaps you should spend your work hours at that building near HMS Belfast doing a bit of research instead if wasting our money blogging.
Harvey, anyone who blames lobbies in this country - be they Jewish lobbies or oil and Muslim voter lobbies - for their own shortcomings are biased idiots and racists.

Joe Millis

30 June, 2011 - 12:42

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Jonathan look at footnote 21 in the meforum piece you linked.

Harvey

30 June, 2011 - 15:12

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You are being obtuse as well you know millis
This is not about lobbies in the normal sense of the word . We are talking of Jews being the instigators of a powerful behind the scenes cartel who manipulate world events . The individuals present at last nights meeting make repeated reference to the canard of an all powerful Jewish lobby pulling the strings of Westminster.
The fact is that salaf was apprehended and hopefully expelled because of his rascist comments about Jews and his association with a proscribed terrorist entity. He presence was deemed not conducive to the good of the public .
The panel last night chose to ignore this fact effectively painting him as an innocent and persecuted party .
Do you acknowledge that in this instance the term zionist lobby represents something wholly sinister and evocative of the canard of the elders of Zion
A simple yes or no will suffice

Joe Millis

30 June, 2011 - 15:25

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Of course the term Zionist lobby is sinister, as are the terms oil lobby or Muslim voter lobby. Only racists and bigots resort to that kind of language to excuse why they fail.

Harvey

30 June, 2011 - 15:37

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I will take that as a no then . You place the protocols of the elders of Zion as no different from an oil lobby . That says it all .

Joe Millis

30 June, 2011 - 15:52

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You can take what you like and however you like. I think I'll spell it out for you and write it very slowly so that perhaps you will understand.
The use of the term Zionist lobby is sinister as is the use of the term Jewish lobby. Both indicate blaming others and an inability to take personal responsibility for actions. These are terms used by racists and bigots.
The use of the term oil lobby is sinister. As is blaming foreign policy on a desire of politicians to be unctuous towards this or that ethnic group because this or that ethnic group may or may not be able to swing votes in constitutencies. Both indicate the blaming of others and an inability to take personal responsibility for actions. These excuses are used by racists and bigots.
If you want to take that as a no, then you are far thicker than the two planks of wood I am about to use to put up more shelving.

Harvey

1 July, 2011 - 11:18

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Millis
If your DIY is as good as your israel advocacy , your house would be condemned

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