"It's great that someone's standing up to them at last"


By Jonathan Hoffman
October 14, 2012
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That was the frequent response from passers-by in Western Road, Brighton to the pro-Israel counter-demonstraters outside the Ecostream shop on Saturday. It seems that people are thoroughly exasperated with the antics of the anti-Israel Loony Left there, led by Rabbi's son and Stalinist, Tony Greenstein - the man who suggested that anti-Zionists should try to rig a JC poll, so that they can falsely paint Jews as racists:

http://hurryupharry.org/2010/10/15/tony-greenstein-wants-rabbis-to-suppo...

We gave out at least 1000 fliers as an antidote to the lies of the PSC and the response was phenomenal - most people supported us. Meanwhile Greenstein and other Israel-haters were warned several times by the Police for blocking the entrance to the shop.

In terms of numbers we had as many activists as the PSC - our numbers included some Christian Zionists.

Come the rain, the PSC of course rushed for cover.....

Daniel Birnbaum, CEO of Sodastream, says he will take legal action to clear protesters from the front of the shop:
http://freespace.virgin.net/xxx.99/SodastreamBoss_Image71.jpg

A few more drops of light rain and he won't need to!

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joemillis1959

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 09:26

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If you really want the sugary carbonated drink maker, you can get cubic gallons of the stuff online or instore at Lakeland so why bother with Brighton?

And calling it an "eco" product is stretching it a bit - those ingredients (Carbonated Water (water, carbon dioxide), sugar, Food Acid (citric Acid-330), Acidity regulator (sodium citrate-331), Flavour, Non-nutritive sweeteneres (Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose), Preservative (Sodium Benzoate -211) are hardly eco.


Mary in Brighton

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 09:54

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JONATHAN!!!! Stop fibbing. You just made almost all of that up. It wasn't even remotely like that.


zaheerayin

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 09:59

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Election times are desperate times.


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 10:10

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Oh dear Jonny you ARE planning to Ahava that poor shop.


Ben F

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 10:24

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"When the Israel-haters fail, they resport to ad hominem insults. You have failed bigtime with Ahava. The shop remains open and is very profitable. It makes more money on demo days than any other time. Despite all your photographing and ad hominem insults, you are losing and we are winning. That is all that counts.
Jonathan Hoffman
28 November 2010 08:12"


Mary in Brighton

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 10:57

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Which 1,000 or so customers are you referring to, Happygoldfish?


Harvey

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 11:14

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Tonyle backing Regreta. Berlins latest explanation of her toxic tweet
Has she got it right this time . . Electronic Intifada doesn't buy it yet Greenie does which proves he's no different from Atzmon . GRETA BERLIN - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

This is ALL that happened regarding a video I wanted to park in a small group and watch later

1. I grabbed the video out of a group of 1000 people, a group that is private
2. I meant to park it into a group of 30+ people that is secret (to watch it later), but I never checked the settings before I hit SHARE, because I was in a hurry.
3. I did not watch the video. Why would I have watched the video? I was in a hell of a hurry and was traveling like crazy those four days. I would have watched it in the small group. Would we have had a discussion on it? Probably. We discuss all kinds of things as you can see from the attached conversation
4. I did not know my personal Facebook page was connected to the Free Gaza TWITTER page. There are 3300 TWEETS on the Free Gaza page, and you all attacked me for this mistake without even giving me a chance to clarify or figure out what had happened.
5. Free Gaza apologized on the front page of the website, using the language that Ali Abunimah gave us.
6. I apologized on the front page of Free Gaza after I figured out what had happened. That should have been the end of it.


Harvey

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 11:19

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I think it is the Zionists who are the most sick. I know nothing of the new board of the Gaza Freedom Movement but the issue of breaking the siege is of far more importance than what Greta is alleged to have done.

I've made my position clear but Greta assures me she had never made an anti-Semitic comment in her life and I'm happy to believe her.

It's like revolving doors . One antisemite out and one in .
Welcome to Tonyles world .


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 11:23

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Harvey you little world of parochial inter cult sandpit squabbles is about as of much interest to regular people as the minutes of last months meeting of the Upper Puddleworth WI.


happygoldfish

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 11:29

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joemillis1959: If you really want the sugary carbonated drink maker, you can get cubic gallons of the stuff online or instore at Lakeland so why bother with Brighton?

joe, the 1000 or so customers were in brighton …

why would they want to go all the way to lakeland for a possibly inferior product unless they were racists?

joemillis1959: And calling it an "eco" product is stretching it a bit - those ingredients (Carbonated Water (water, carbon dioxide), sugar, Food Acid (citric Acid-330), Acidity regulator (sodium citrate-331), Flavour, Non-nutritive sweeteneres (Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose), Preservative (Sodium Benzoate -211) are hardly eco.

joe, you're confusing eco with natural

it's a lot more eco (green) to use the sodastream to produce easily in your home what would otherwise have to be produced in a factory, bottled, schlepped across the country, and then schlepped home!

(btw, green anti-israel brighton mp caroline lucas herself calls it green … "i am keen to ensure that green businesses in particular are welcomed to the city" )

and it's not only green, it also helps the palestinians …

more than half of the workforce at the disputed factory are palestinians, earning above average salaries, supporting their families, and helping the west bank economy

talking of green water, when will the green party (or you) criticise the palestinian authority's breach of international law by their refusal to treat their waste water (so that they can re-use it for agriculture, like neighbouring arab countries, and stop it flowing into israel), despite their obligation to do so under paragraph 23 of article 40 ("water and sewage") of annexe iii of oslo ii (the israeli-palestininan interim agreement on the west bank and the gaza strip), and despite international offers to pay the entire capital cost?


Advis3r

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 11:46

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On August 20, 2012, a group of 50 young thugs attacked a Christian housing project in Jerusalem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFCJe6q2Rbg
The attack went largely unnoticed and unreported by the MSM especially in the UK that's perhaps because it was Arab thugs who did it?


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 12:01

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It is hard to imagine anything more racist than the family of arguments brilliantly represented by....

"it also helps the palestinians …
more than half of the workforce at the disputed factory are palestinians..........."


Harvey

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:00

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I think you should apologise to the WI for your sexist comment


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:04

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And to Upper Puddleworth while I am at it ?


Advis3r

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:07

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He presumably means racist as in
"Overall, the boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn have the highest concentration of immigrants, 47% and 37%, respectively. In Queens, immigrants make up more than half the workforce and in Brooklyn they make up 48%."
http://immigration.about.com/od/usimmigrationhistory/a/New-York-City-S-I...
But I was forgetting it is only a racist argument when a supporter of Israel makes it.


joemillis1959

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:15

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Happy, if something is artificial, such as the goo SodaStream sell, it can't be eco. Also, they don't have to go all the way to any of the Lakeland chain, it can be bought online.


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:28

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I love it when Jose hopelessly fails to grasp what is being said.Best of all that is most of the time.


Advis3r

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:33

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As in illegally interfering with the trade of a store because it is owned by Jews is not racist?


joemillis1959

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:35

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Stupid, certainly. But illegal? As long as the protesters have a permit to demonstrate outside and do not go beyond the T&Cs, it's not illegal.


Advis3r

Mon, 10/15/2012 - 13:46

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Who is talking about outside?

As Jonathan Goldberg said

More recently, the Ahava protesters claimed they were entitled to invade the shop because some of its products are made in a kibbutz situated in the West Bank on occupied Palestinian land. Thus, the products were mislabelled as "Made in Israel". They therefore claimed they were there to prevent crime, as trivial as trades descriptions on the one hand and as serious as war crimes on the other. District Judge Baker convicted them. Worryingly, he expressed his "considerable hesitancy" and punished them with a small fine.
Common sense seems often to go out of the window where anti-Israel protest is in play. Animal-rights protesters who disrupt animal testing laboratories, or the protesters against fox hunting, or globalisation, or the Iraq War, let alone the respectable ladies in the '80s who regularly disrupted the Greenham Common Air Base, or the CND sit-down protestors of the '60s, did not receive the indulgence now afforded to such Palestinian sympathisers by the police, the Crown Prosecution Service and the courts, it seems to me.
It is high time for Section 5 to be tightened, and for the courts to heed the warnings of Lord Hoffmann in a case in the House of Lords in 2006. He said that politically motivated vigilantism has no place in a civilised and democratic society, and that the criminal courts should refuse to countenance "the new phenomenon of litigation as the continuation of protest by other means.

http://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/ask-qc/49137/ahava-protesters-and-a-point...

It's more than just stupid it is racist.


AlistairClark

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 17:47

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Its nothing to do with Jews owning the soda stream store that it's being targeted it's because it supports occupation,Mr Advisor.


AlistairClark

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 17:47

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Its nothing to do with Jews owning the soda stream store that it's being targeted it's because it supports occupation.


happygoldfish

Tue, 10/16/2012 - 17:50

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Advis3r: On August 20, 2012, a group of 50 young thugs attacked a Christian housing project in Jerusalem …

this appears to be bethpage (beit phage) in east jerusalem, by the mount of olives, the start of the annual palm sunday procession (see http://www.usbible.com/Gospel/Jesus_enters_Jerusalem.htm and matthew 21:1-7)

from the website of the latin patriarch of jerusalem

This occurred on Monday, August 20, from 8:00 p.m. to midnight when a group of fifty boys attacked the residential complex for 79 families which is part of a project of the Franciscans of the Holy Land. Following a brawl between young people of the Christian area and some neighbors, friends were called and they all attacked the complex, yelling, throwing stones, smashing cars and windows of houses. A number of residents were injured and one had to be hospitalized for treatment. ”They do so because they know that we will not respond with violence!” protested David Josef, a father of five children, as he emphasized: “This is the third time this happened to us in two years …

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