How does Shamnesty's Kate Allen Keep A Straight Face?


By Jonathan Hoffman
May 18, 2012
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http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/66896/amnesty-chief-stands-its-work-is...

Eighteen years living with Ken Livingstone has clearly had an impact on Kate Allen’s definition of “truth”.

Her denial (JC 26 April ) that Amnesty displays anti-Israel bias surely must rank alongside Bill Clinton’s denial in re Monica Lewinsky for the title of "Most Disingenuous and Egregious Falsehood in History." There is hardly an Israel traducer to whom Amnesty has not given a London platform: Jeff Halper, Ben White, the Christisons, Greg Philo, Tim Lllewellyn and Gideon Levy are just a few examples. Yet when I negotiated long and hard with Amnesty’s Campaigns Director Kristyan Benedict for Ruvi Ziegler to speak there I got precisely nowhere (Ziegler is an Israeli Doctoral Law student at Oxford who is an expert on the law of the Security Fence and a superb speaker).

Add to this (i) that Amnesty played host to the Russell Tribunal which is a Kangaroo Court designed solely to vilify Israel (ii) Amnesty never called for the release of Gilad Shalit and (iii) Amnesty published a report about water resources in Gaza which was mostly fiction, then you can appreciate why - after reading the piece about Allen - I had to check whether the date on the JC was close to Purim.

In this week’s JC Alan Aziz also weighs in …

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/67719/amnesty-boss-attacked-over-israe...

More on Shamnesty here:

http://www.thejc.com/blogs/jonathan-hoffman/whose-human-rights-does-sham...

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Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:31

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I seem to remember Ben white he of the I can understand why some people are antisemitic 'comment , holding a book launch there


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:37

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In feb 2011 Irene khan received a payment of £533,103 from Amnesty following her resignation from the organisation in 2009
The sum paid was in excess of four times her annual salary of £132,490!
Dep secretary Kate gilmour received an ex gratia payment of £320,000
These were both part of a confidential agreement.
This is how donor money is spent .
Never has the saying charity begins at home been more appropriate !


Jon.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:39

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Looks like you've done the old delete and repost again Jonathan. Was it the uncomfortable truths?


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:42

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A senior official at AI , Gita Sahgal head of gender dept stated that collaboration with Moazzam Begg, a British inmate of Guantanamo Bay
" fundamentally damages the organisations reputation "
She went on to state that the ' charity has allied itself with Begg and his Jihadi group , cage prisoners out of fear of being branded racist and islamaphobic .


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:46

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In 2007 AI stated that it reports disproportionately on relatively more democratic and open countries including the US and Israel
Well of course they do . Democratic open societies are an easy touch for criticism and you are far less likely to get a field worker murdered or kidnapped .
AI has long since.been unfit for purpose .
Their candle went out ages ago


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 10:55

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AI origins may have been honourable once upon a time . However it has long since transformed itself into an enabler of human rights abuses by its failure to identify and criticise vile regimes such as Iran and Syria . Both are guilty of the worst excesses of human rights abuses against their citizens . Syria at this very moment has slaughtered thousands of its citizens . The dissidents are desperate for global support but AI remains virtually silent .
The organisation has long since been overrun by the far left tendency who see first world democracies as their primary target .
AI is not fit for purpose . It is irrelevant and fails to stand up to and report on the true vile human rights abuses going on throughout the Arab middle east , Russia and China , north Korea , Iran and Central Africa .


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:00

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Diana Johnstone in her seminal work
'Fools Crusade ' alleged that AI played an uncritical role during the Balkan wars .
This was backed up by Michael Mandel , a professor of int Law at York university criticising AI stance pertaining to both the war in the Balkans and human rights abuses in Irak .


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:10

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Is that all you can produce Mary . Pathetic Ad Hominem attacks .
Why not address the points made both above and below the line .
In reality , you've never managed to make one substantive contribution since you found your way here .


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:16

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Jonathan you are 57 years old,a deputy, co vice chair of the ZF. Do you really want to be seen behaving this childishly ? How many times have you deleted and reposted this now ? Jon it would seem Jonathan doesn't do truth.

Jonathan do grow up sweetie.


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 12:04

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Harvey I would address the points but I am always too slow. Jonathan keeps making them disappear.


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 12:24

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I know it's very strange . Maybe it's a Zionist plot to control the freedom of the press .
Ask Tonyle if he's not too busy looking over his shoulder for his good friend Gilad .


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 12:26

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Anyway the thread is up and running now . Why not make it a first and add a comment worth responding to .


AlistairClark

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 13:07

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Mr Hoffman,sir.What's wrong with Gideon Levy?(He's a hero of mine and he has a nice piece about Zionism in the Ha'aretz today ) I don't know much about Ben white other he has the support of an Israeli MK in his new book.I don't think its the best idea to go after human rights activists what if one day they have to speak up for you or I."Traducer" What are these maline or false statements against Israel you speak of? Stand up to the mark rather than hide behind inaccurate words.I wouldn't let someone defend a separation wall on a human rights platform either. You talk about the Shalit case,I'd hazard a guess that Amnesty wouldn't protect occupiers same as they say nothing when a settler is killed because he or she has no need to be there in the first place.


Advis3r

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 13:39

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Mary told any more porkies lately?

@AlistairClark: What's wrong with Gideon Levy well seven years ago, after writing that Golda Meir "said that after what the Nazis did to us, we can do whatever we want," Ha'aretz writer Gideon Levy admitted that he had no source for the virulent quote. In an Aug. 12, 2004 email, he acknowledged: "Therefore we dropped the quotation in the original version in Hebrew and by mistake it was printed in the English version."

I've got plenty more where that came from. If he is someone you admire you must have as shakey a grip on facts as he has.


Advis3r

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 13:54

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@Alistair Your comment

You talk about the Shalit case,I'd hazard a guess that Amnesty wouldn't protect occupiers same as they say nothing when a settler is killed because he or she has no need to be there in the first place.

demonstrates a remarkable failue to grasp the facts.

Whether a settler has a right to be anywhere like you he has the right to life. However this clearly evidences your hatred for Jews for despite your protestations otherwise this is nothing but blind hatred.

I suggest you actually learn who Gilad Shallit is, how as soldier in the Israeli Army he was illegally abducted from sovereign Israeli territory, how against all Humanitarian Laws his whereabouts were kept secret and even the International Red Cross were denied access to him. By the people you obviously support.


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 14:23

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I wonder if Gideon Levy apologises when he lies too like Jonathan does?


Advis3r

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 14:47

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. . . or Mary for that matter


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 14:54

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Yeah...thank G-d Mary hasn't been elected to anything important. Just think...she could be misleading a whole bunch of bottle blondes. Jonathan, on the other hand....


Advis3r

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:03

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I see because you are you're not elected to anything important not telling the truth has no real consequence - hmmmm!


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:20

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lol


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:27

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Alastair Clark
You fail to address the criticisms levelled at AI in mr Hoffmans post , or indeed the BTL comments . Instead ,and for reasons we know all too well, you attempt to hijack the thread by referring to Gideon Levy , Gilad Shalit , and the seperation wall otherwise known as the security fence .
Why not throw in Chelsea s chances in Munich tomorrow which is about as relevant to the post .Let me remind you , the post concerns Amnesty International and its failure to perform to its original mission statement .
Or would that be too much to ask ?


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:29

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Ahem Zaheer........ :)


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:30

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Harvey is your shift as ventriloquist dummy an all day long one ?


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:31

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Actually , I recognise a troll when I read one .
Perhaps Mr Clark you took a wrong turn coming here .
Try mpac ,psc , or Storm Front . All much the same and all will doubtless benefit from your expertise on the I/P conflict .


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:32

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Still waiting for that one erudite comment Mary .
As if .


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:34

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Incidentally , how come the usual motley crew of traducers were so slow off the mark this morning ?


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:37

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Harvey you just don' t seem to get it. Jonathan's habitual lying and making it up as he goes along has made it impossible to take him or anything he writes seriously.


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:44

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Incidentally Alastair
Maline is usually spelt malign . :(


Chris Tucker (not verified)

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:50

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"Maybe it's a Zionist plot to control freedom of the press"

I doubt it. It's just that Hoffman is a chicken shit.


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 15:55

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Bit late to the party Tucker . Are you related to Mary by any chance .
She was also slow off the mark .


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 16:59

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Actually Harvey I wasn't slow off the mark. I posted at 8.55 am. Jonathan didn't like what I said so he had one of his childish truculent turns and deleted and reposted the blog for the fifth time. Do try to keep up dear.

Maybe if Jonathan could go a whole six months without being caught out lying he could be considered rehabilitated. People might then resume reading his blog posts and engage with him on the issues.

Anyway we have before us a heaven sent test of his self confidence and integrity. Let's see if he deletes and reposts after closing time.


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:20

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Mary
Im confused
At 11.04 you mentioned you were slow off the mark . Now you are saying you were not slow off the mark .
Would I be right in saying you were on the lash last night with comrade Tonyle.
I think we should be told .
Anyway why worry , you never have anything worth saying anyway .


AlistairClark

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:25

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I said I'd hazard a guess,I'm not an expert.I just don't see the point to demonising Human rights groups.One person points out one mistake Gideon Levy made,Gideon Levy is one of the good guys and so what if he did make a mistake.
Harvey thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake,spelling is not my forte.If you look carefully you'll see that I have been on topic,completely.I've not made any mistakes .I'm at the right place,Harvey.I've got many Jewish friends who have a very similar train of thought as my own.I think Mr Hoffmans views are biased , one sided and ridiculous.


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:27

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Forgive Harvey, Mr. Clark....he has a thing for spelling and Mary.


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:28

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Harvey I went into the bathroom to get my hair dye by the time I got back Jonathan had reported three times. Slow is relative.


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:29

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hahahaha


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:32

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Mary, how many times do you think he'll repost this before your roots grow out again?


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:34

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Here we go .
The old ' some of my best friends are Jewish party piece .
Where have I heard that old disclaimer before .
No doubt including loons such as Greenstein and Fink (ler)
Address the criticisms regarding Amnesty . You have failed to make one counter argument first time round .


Real Real Zionist

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:37

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If Jonny Hoff told me it was Friday I wouldn't act on it without having it independently checked out.

Harvey don't forget to visit us Tuesday.


Jonathan Hoffman

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:42

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@zaheerayin

You're the liar

None of those links show that Shamnesty called for THE RELEASE of Gilad Shalit

To help you: To "release" someone means "to let them go free"

There - words of 4 letters or less

If you still don't understand what "release" means then ask Mummy to explain


Harvey

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 17:42

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Armbach
You re a bit late in
We had 6 comments up before Jon opened his bleary eyes
Repeat must try harder next time .
See you Tuesday


zaheerayin

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:04

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Is that the best you've got?


AlistairClark

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:08

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Harvey I'll let you into a secret.My views are left of centre,the JC is slightly right of centre.I like to be honest,I'm out to encourage decent Jews to move to a more centrist view.I could post in the Haaretz but what's the point,I'd be preaching to the choir.I'm a troll? yes .In that case I'd have pointed out the relevant news that the JC forgot to post over last fortnight because it damages the political right .And yes it is a fence of separation a security fence doesn't move in a zig zag separating occupied people from their land it follows internationally recognised borders.


AlistairClark

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:16

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Don't put words in my mouth please Harvey,I never said my best friends are Jewish.I wouldn't complain if my best friends were Jewish though.Next you'll tall us all that you don't get Jews with views similar to my own.


Stanley Walinets

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:04

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Thank God for the existence of AlistairClark, who expresses his views straightforwardly without feeling his arguments will only be proved if he abuses anyone who disagrees with him.
And my goodness - he even let's it be known that his views are left of centre - an absolute sin, sadly, in the eyes of many of our kin who believe 'Right' is the only source of truth.
I haven't blogged here recently, since the Management decided only 'invited' bloggers were to be admitted to initiate issues they think are important. But glad to see there are still some honest Jews around, like Alaistair and Mary in Jordan.
L'Chayim!


Advis3r

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:38

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Mary in Jordan obviously been at the sherry again!

Mary honest???!! well I suggest you look at the porky she told on the good Rabbi's blog about the importance of women in the Jewish religion.

Alistairclark the polite man's anti-Semite who believes settlers have no right to life because that's why AI do not issue any condemnations when like the Fogels five of them are murdered in their beds - why am I not surprised that Mr Walinets thinks him a good egg.


Mary in Brighton

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:54

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Stanley, you haven't been falling off your motorbike again, have you?


Mary in Brighton

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:56

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zaheerayin

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:21

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"I see because you are you're not elected to anything important not telling the truth has no real consequence - hmmmm!"

No, Advis3r. I did not say that. People generally don't have high expectations of bottle blonde anarchists from Brighton. They tend to expect better from Deputies and elected officials of the Zionist Federation.

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