Conservative MP Demonises Israel


By Jonathan Hoffman
April 3, 2012
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http://www.canterburyconservatives.com/2012/03/veolia-julian-brazier-let...

This letter from Conservative MP Julian Brazier to Eric Pickles – the UK Minister responsible for local government – shamelessly perverts the truth and is a prime example of how antisemitic discourse has entered mainstream political discourse in the UK

First Israel has done nothing 'illegal'. The right of Jews to settle in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) is enshrined in and protected by international law, and underpinned by article 80 of the UN charter.

Second to blame Israel for the strength of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is utterly disgusting and a perversion of the truth. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded well before Israel even existed!

Third to blame Israel for the attacks on British troops in Afghanistan is an appalling libel and to use the natural patriotic sympathies of the British to whip up hatred against Israel is simply criminal.

Fourth Brazier says that an Israeli attack on Iran would threaten peace.

No - It is the deranged regime in Iran which threatens peace.

Does Julian Brazier believe that Britain’s attack on Germany in 1939-45 “threatened peace”?

Fifth "Richard Stainton" whom Brazier "knows quite well" has form as regards Israel-bashing. For example he signed the letter in the Guardian in 2009 trying to get the Science Museum to cancel Israel Science Day:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/feb/16/museums-israel-science

Most of his allegations can easily be verified on the internet

Yes - and so can the allegations of all nutjobs!

To “make mendacious, dehumanising, demonising or stereotypical allegations about Jews” is antisemitic (see EUMC Definition).

Julian Brazier MP: Just what does that make you....?

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Real Real Zionist

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 09:26

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Do try to get a grip hoffie this is embarrassing.

" nothing illegal " Unfortunately the whole world and its canary disagrees with you. But what do you care about the whole world and its canary.
YOU are JONATHAN HOFFMAN !!!

" before Israel existed". So ?

" Making mendacious...... About Jews" He never mentioned Jews.

Deffo time to hand over to Dan Sheldon.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 09:38

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RRZ, you are simply wrong. I suggest you research San Remo before falling into the intellectually lazy "settlements are illegal" canard.

they are not. You may disagree with them - but they are not "illegal". Read San Remo before you bother replying.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 09:39

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RRZ, are you saying that the strength of the Brotherhood is indeed Israel's fault? On what basis?


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 09:40

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Well said Jonathan.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 09:43

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RRZ, being the Israel hating leftist that you are, I suggest your quick defence of Brazier is laughable - have you ever seen his voting record? Somewehere to the right of Attila the Hun.


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 10:45

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But to the left of Roberta ?


joshua789

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:03

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Oh dear, he's off again.

There are so many false assertions in Jonathan 'hater' Hoffman's blog but let's just start with this one:

'Fourth Brazier says that an Israeli attack on Iran would threaten peace'.

Well, everyone agrees with that even the US.


joshua789

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:14

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Regarding the West Bank (Amber AKA Jonathan please stop that San Remo nonsense) the current situation is this:

The ENTIRE world community recognises the West Bank as occupied territory. Even the Israeli government declares an interest in a future independent Palestine next to Israel.

If the Palestinians are asking the Israelis to stop building settlements (as are the US and the EU etc) then why doesn't Israel demonstrate it is a genuine partner in peace and stop building?


joshua789

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:19

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'antisemitic discourse'

Forgive me if I misread the letter but I don't think Mr Brazier mentioned Jews once.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:23

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Joshua 789, of course you have no idea about San Remo, and have never read it. Nor have you read article 80 as cited by Jonathan. Yet on you go, lazily parrotting the tired line that they are "illegal", and arrogantly speaking for the entire planet. Incredible.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:24

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Joshua, if you can't see antisemitism unless Jews are explicitly mentioned, then you are obtuse as well as intellectually dishonest.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:24

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Joshua, why is it Ok for Arabs to live in Israel, but no Jew can live in a future so-called "Palestinian" state?


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:25

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Funny, Joshua, that you don't recognize that Iran's development of WMD's threaten peace, only Israel's attempt to survive.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:02

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And thus RRZ is left wittering to himself - unable to answer a single point put to him


joshua789

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:11

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Amber - AKA Jonathan - where to start (again)

Iran's WMDs. Where are they?

San Remo? I know exactly what you are referring to. You may as well use the bible to explain apartheid and genocide (oh, you already do) it's that irrelevant.
We are talking about now, and the wishes of the occupied Palestinians and the international community.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:15

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Joshua, I am not Jonathan.

Iran's WMD - where are they? Where do you think?

San Remo - you obviously haven't read it. It is a legally binding document, and if you believe it has been superceded, please explain on what basis and by which legal authority.

the "wishes" of the international community have nothing to do with what is legal - you have changed the goalposts - but then as a denier of Iran's efforts to kill Jews, what more would we expect?


joshua789

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:31

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I don't know where Iran's so called WMDs are. Do you? Does anyone? Do they even exist?

How does attacking Iran solve anything? But rather cause more death and unnecessary war.

San Remo has been superseded by events. The situation is that millions of Palestinians are living under occupation (in an apartheid system) or under siege. In order for these people to have justice, a future and the human rights that we take for granted, it would seem that the best offer would be to create a contiguous Palestine next to Israel.
This is supported by the entire world community. And it is perfectly within Israel's ability to create peace and an end to the occupation.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:58

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OK Joshua, there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program. The IAEA is wrong to maintain that there are activities within Iran's nuclear program that could only be part of a weapons program. All Western intelligence agencies have it wrong as well, and this is all part of a dastardly Zionist plot to cry wolf when there is in fact no threat at all. Iran has not waged a proxy war against the West for the past 30 years, including making the IED's which are currently killing British troops in Afghanistan. They do not support the genocidal racist terror groups of Hizbollah and Hamas. They did not blow up the Jewish centre in Buenos Aires. They do not hold Holocaust denying conferences inviting such luminaries as the KKK. They do not parade missiles in Tehran with the words "Death to Israel" on the side. Anything short of Joshua going to Iran, seeing it with his own eyes, simply isn't believable.

How does attacking Iran solve anything? No, much better to wait until a missile lands in Tel Aviv and kills 2 million people, or a suitcase nuke on Dizengoff.

We can hear your apologies then.

San Remo superceded by events? Oh dear. Not much of a legal expert, are you? Since when do leghally binding documents change by themselves?


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:58

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Joshua, peace is not in Israel's court - it is in the Arabs' - and they do not want it. They want the Jews dead.


joshua789

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:16

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Oh, Jonathan - AKA Amber - all the accusations you level against Iran can of course be levelled against Israel.
And of course Israel has plenty of nuclear weapons and plenty of form in attacking sovereign countries - Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt . . . .

Don't worry, Iran will not attack Israel. (but Israel may launch (another) war in the ME)

Log onto this group and drop all your hatred, invective and racism. Even for a moment.

http://www.israelovesiran.com/

You'll feel better for it.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:33

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What?! Israel has been waging a war against the West for 30 years? Israel parades weapons with "Death to Iran" on them? Israel makes munitions which kill British troops in Afghanistan?

What bloody planet are you on?


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:33

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Iran DOES attack Israel through its proxies Hamas and Hizbollah.

You really ar e a fool.


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:34

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Pointing out Iran's Holocaust denial is racist, is it?


amber

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:35

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Joshua, that is the same website susanna, who speaks of "judeofascism" rants about.

I suggest it is YOU who are a racist.


Jon.

Fri, 04/06/2012 - 11:09

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Still waiting amber...

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