Board of Deputies President Condemns Cameron's Shunning of JNF
![]() | By Jonathan Hoffman
June 19, 2011 | Share |
At today's Board meeting I asked Vivian Wineman the President if he unreservedly condemned Davd Cameron's withdrawal as a JNF Patron.
His answer was unequivocal: "If the motivation was about Israel then we condemn it utterly"
http://www.thejc.com/blogs/jonathan-hoffman/taking-mick-again
Mick Davis and Gerald Ronson - are you listening?
COMMENTS
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 10:27 Rate this: 0 points | Davis: "he has not responded to anti-Israel groups". But if he did it off his own bat because deep down he really does not like Israel - then that's ok? |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 10:33 Rate this: 0 points | Well done, Inigo. You got it right. And, err, Wineman is the president of the BoD, not chairman. |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 10:39 Rate this: 0 points | Millis - Wineman was chairman of the Board Meeting - simples! And I was not even there. |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 10:48 Rate this: 0 points | By the way Inigi Wineman as reported did not using your formula "say X -> Y" he said "if X -> Y" which begs the question which everyone seems too lilly-livered to ask presumably because they might get upset if they heard the truth and then would be forced to have to do something about it - which as we all know they are unwilling to do. |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:16 Rate this: 0 points | Advis3r: in formal logic notation, you don't need to write the "if". So X->Y means "If X then Y". It doesn't mean " X AND if X then Y". |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:27 Rate this: 0 points | Absolutely, right, Inigo. The "If" is the crucial word here. It's a conditional Type I sentence, modified through lack of sequence of tenses. |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 11:36 Rate this: 0 points | If that is the case then may I suggest the notation should have been Y<=>X X ⊢ Y |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 15:15 Rate this: 0 points | Does anyone care about this tedious parish pump stuff :? |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 17:10 Rate this: 0 points | Cameron resigned because he needs to distance |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 17:35 Rate this: 0 points | Thanks for confirming that simonq obviously you have no idea what the word racist means and I neither have the time nor the inclination to even attempt to teach a rabid bigot such as your rottenself why you are. However thanks for the timely reminder to the Jews of the UK that they are only tolerated by you and your antisemitic cohorts now perhaps the Jews will start packing while there is still time and leave you to tender mercies of the Islamist fundamentalists. |
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 17:39 Rate this: 0 points | Simoneq, do you ever say anything new? You display all the intellect of a windup doll. Just wind you up, and you sprout your favorite buzzword, "racist", and tar Israel with it. |


Inigo Montoya
Mon, 06/20/2011 - 10:11
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Davis: "Whatever the reasons David Cameron may have for stepping down as patron of the JNF, I have no doubt he has not responded to pressure from anti-Israel groups and there is no basis for this assertion."
Ronson: "It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that the Prime Minister's decision to step down from the JNF had anything to do with pressure from anti-Israel groups or reflect a negative opinion about Israel."
Wineman: "If the motivation was about Israel then we condemn it utterly"
All three of these statements are consistent with one another. Let's formalize - let X be "it was about Israel" and Y be "we condemn it".
Wineman says (X -> Y), while Davis and Ronson say ~X. Wineman doesn't say (X & (X -> Y) and therefore doesn't say Y.
So what's your point?