Bibi's Awesome UN Speech: Transcript and Video


By Jonathan Hoffman
September 28, 2012
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joemillis1959

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 11:44

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And it has spawned a huge number of memes

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Real Real Zionist

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 12:12

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Ha Ha how apt is " Don't Look Back "


Mary in Brighton

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 12:19

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The less than packed house seemed rather less tha awe struck


suzanna

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:10

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The cartoon bomb was awesome. As was the call for more war. Awesome.

(not many delegates present)


suzanna

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:16

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Yet, last autumn, when the countries of the world had the opportunity to declare their
stance without any restrictions or “veto”, they voted, despite enormous pressures, in strong
support of the acceptance of Palestine as a Member State of the United Nations Educational,
Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). A year has passed and Palestine, the homeland
of Mahmoud Darwish and Edward Said, is playing its role in UNESCO with high responsibility
and professionalism, and is committed to international conventions, cooperating with all Member
States in order to advance the objectives of the organization, and providing a model of what its
positive, constructive contribution in international organizations would be.


suzanna

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:16

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At the same time, the Palestinian National Authority has affirmed, through
implementation of its State institution-building program, the ability to create an advanced model
for an effective, modem State through the development of the performance of its institutions,
public finance management through the adoption of transparency, accountability and rules of
good governance. These achievements have been considered by the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee
(AHLC), the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund to constitute an impressive
undertaking and success story, one that was again commended in the latest report just a few days
ago, confirming full Palestinian readiness for the transition to an independent State, while at the
same time stressing that the Israeli occupation remains the only obstacle to the realization of the
State of Palestine.


joemillis1959

Mon, 10/01/2012 - 16:21

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Here's the main problem with what Netanyahu has said. As he is in effect saying that war will break out next spring, which international company will invest in the country? And which Israeli company will open new plant in North or south with the threat from Gaza and Lebanon?
And does he really think that an American president - republican or democratic - who no longer needs Jewish votes will join a war forced upon him, when the American public is already fed up to the eyeballs with Iraq and Afghanistan?


joshua789

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 13:52

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Natanyahu - I can't stand him, he's a liar

you can't stand him . . . . . ?

etc


joshua789

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 13:53

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The thing that is not mentioned by the judeofascists - is that the Israeli government has oft repeated these bogus 'warnings'

Shimon Peres, in 1996
"Iran is the centre of terrorism, fundamentalism and subversion and is … more dangerous than Nazism, because Hitler did not possess a nuclear bomb …"

Peres himself said in 1992 that Iran would have a nuclear bomb by 1999! That's 13 years ago. And Ehud Barak – now Bibi's Defence Minister – said in 1996 that Iran would have a nuke by 2004. That's eight years ago.

These people are liars and seem to want endless war and the killing of civilians.


joshua789

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 14:10

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On September 12, 2002, Netanyahu testified at a U.S. House of Representatives hearing.

This is what he said:

“There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons—no question whatsoever.”

“Every indication we have is that (Saddam) is…pursuing with abandon, pursuing with every ounce of effort, the establishment of weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons. If anyone makes an opposite assumption…that is simply not an objective assessment of what has happened.”


joshua789

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 14:13

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Netanyahu also told the following lies;

“Saddam is hell-bent on achieving atomic bombs, atomic capabilities, as soon as he can.”

“…this is not a hypothesis. It is a fact. Iraq, Iran and Libya are racing to develop nuclear weapons.”

These men are liars and are intent on causing suffering and death on innocent people.


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 08:40

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Mr Netanyahu has degrees from MIT one of the leading Universities in the U.S. At the U.N. he used a simple graphic in order to explain the issue of Iranian nuclear fuel enrichment to bomb-grade uranium to those like joshua and suzanna who are less educated & less knowledgeable about this issue than he is. The presentation was effective at communicating to the widest possible audience the urgency of the danger of not acting in time to stop Iran's nuclear weapons programme. At one glance, those with enough commonsense (sadly lacking obviously in a number of the posters here) would be able to understand where Iran was in their enrichment cycle an at what stage it was necessary to act to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear capability with which to threaten not just Israel but Europe and America as well. He took a complicated issue & made its major points simple but obviously not simple enough for even those with the simplest of minds who will continue to litter this website with their puerile offerings and blatant hatred. Maybe just maybe the moderator of this website will take his/her position seriously and ban anyone who uses the despicable and pejorative term "judeofascist" in a pathetic attempt to make a point.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 10:52

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“Saddam is hell-bent on achieving atomic bombs, atomic capabilities, as soon as he can.”

Natanyahu was telling lies.

“…this is not a hypothesis. It is a fact. Iraq, Iran and Libya are racing to develop nuclear weapons.”

And more lies.

“There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons—no question whatsoever.”

And another lie.

And so it goes on.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 10:58

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Advsr - rather than name call why not discuss the point that Israel has, for the past two decades, been claiming Iran is making nuclear bombs and yet has never offered any proof and no bombs have come to light?

Now why would Israel claim Iran is making a bomb?


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 11:10

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But my favourite meme is this

The speech bubble says: "from about here there are no more crisps, it's all air"


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 11:39

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Glad you think like the Iranians (in good company there) that it's all a big joke Millis. I suppose you would have been in the Chamberlain camp pre-WWII after all when someone says they're going to annihilate you it's all bluff and bluster isn't it?
Thank goodness for all of us Britain soon had that "warmonger" Churchill as Prime Minister.
As to Joshua what did say? ah yes " rather than name call ..."

the thing that is not mentioned by the judeofascists

engage with you?.... I don't think so.
However I would draw your attention to this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/world/middleeast/nuclear-inspectors-co...


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 11:45

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I still like the Don't Look Back one best


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 11:46

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Advis3r, where would we Jews be without a self-deprecating sense of humour?
And as for fallacious comparisons - Nazi Germany was a hugely advanced industrial state with the biggest armed forces in Europe. Iran, on the other hand, is a non-industrialised state with armed forces supplied with weapons at least three generations old. Add to that the fact that its economy is collapsing (hint: there are mass demonstrations in Tehran today).
Use of the Holocaust just diminishes the slaughter of the six million.


Mary in Brighton

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:20

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Actually that is something that has surprised me ever since I landed on this strange planet. The sheer humourlessness of the wackos, with the honourable exception of Harvey on his better days.


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:25

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I didn't use the holocaust - did I mention the holocaust? - only you did! Stop setting up straw man arguments to deflect from the point.
Which is that sometimes as crazy as they are you have to take madmen at their word especially when they appear to have the wherewithal to back up their madness.
Even without a nuclear bomb Iran possesses more than enough WMD including chemical weapons which they are just itching to use, against Israel. To allow them to achieve a nuclear capability which they claim is for peaceful purposes would be as big a mistake as believing Hitler was at all interested in peace in 1939.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 12:47

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“There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing to the development of nuclear weapons. No question whatsoever…. Two decades ago it was possible to thwart Saddam’s nuclear ambitions by bombing a single instillation, but today nothing less than dismantling his regime will do.”In his testimony, Netanyahu repeatedly said there was “no question” Saddam was working to increase his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. He also fanatically said, “Every indication we have is that he is pursuing, pursuing with abandon, pursuing with every ounce of effort the establishment of weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons.”

When questioned about why the 250 international inspectors found “no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq,” Netanyahu falsely told the Congressional body that Saddam was burying these nuclear centrifuges in tunnels.

Lies, lies, lies.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:11

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As for the comment that Iran is a big a 'threat' as Hitler (we knew Hitler would have to come into it sooner or later) consider this:

The US spent circa 710 Billion on arms last year.
Iran spent 7 billion - which is about the same as Greece and Norway !!! and less than Singapore, Colombia and Spain !! Some threat.


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:19

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Advis3r, you used Nazi Germany as a comparison. And what did Nazi Germany do? Perpetrate the Holocaust.
Using that comparison is the chicken little argument. No, worse, it's Holocaust abuse.


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:26

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Comparing Iran with Norway because they spent the same amount on arms how quaint.
More reading for Joshua considering he is absolutely clueless on the topic:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/01/syria-nuclear-arms-site-reve...


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:30

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Millis I explained why I used the analogy of appeasement - i.e. not believing a madman I never mentioned the holocaust you did, I never even mentioned Nazi Germany you just did. All the wriggling in the world won't let you off that hook. Don't bury yourself even deeper.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:35

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Iran, with a defence budget the size of Norway, is hardly a threat to the West.

And neither is Iran constantly calling for an attack against another country.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:43

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In January 2003, AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr stated, “quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq” was one of “AIPAC’s successes over the past year.”


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:44

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Norway however does not fund and train proscribed terrorist organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah to do its dirty work for it - a slight difference. Neither does it support the megalomaniac who is currently president of Syria.
Oh and of course Iran has perfectly peaceful intentions towards Israel:
http://www.realite-eu.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=9dJBLLNkGiF&b=...


happygoldfish

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:50

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joemillis1959: Advis3r, you used Nazi Germany as a comparison. And what did Nazi Germany do? Perpetrate the Holocaust.
Using that comparison is the chicken little argument. No, worse, it's Holocaust abuse.

joe, are you saying that it would be inappropriate to use the word "holocaust" to describe the use of a nuclear weapon against israel?

joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 13:51

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Whilst we are on the subject of lies and Israeli governments, Netanyahu also immediately blamed Iran for the bombing of a bus full of Israelis in Romania, citing irrefutable intelligence that would prove Iran was responsible. This intelligence has yet to materialize, and neither Netanyahu nor the Israeli government have released a shred of evidence to support this claim.

Or have we missed something?


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:00

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To the majority of Lebanese and Palestinian people (and probably most of the ME and North Africa) Hamas and Hezbollah are resistance groups of course. In fact the latter was founded following Israel's invasion of Lebanon.
As Joe as correctly pointed out Iran is not in a position, militarily, politically or economically to harm the West. Even if it should want to - which most sane observers in Israel accept is not the case.
Natanyahu in the meantime is trying to punish the Iranian people - as he agitated for against the Iraqi people (and of course continues to do so against the Palestinians) through sanctions, by scare mongering and meantime saying that all he wants is peace. But not until we have fired missiles at them and brought destruction to their land.


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:09

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No, Goldfish, I am saying that it is wrong to compare Nazi Germany with Iran and it is wrong to compare Ahmadinnerjacket with Hitler, because the Iranian loony hasn't the means at his disposal that the Nazi dictator had.

Advis3r, I don't know if you have noticed, there is no appeasement of Iran, hence the rioting in Tehran and elsewhere and the collapse of its economy.


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:16

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Joshua so obviously clueless has not heard about Iranian involvement in the bombing of the Jewish Centre in Buenos Aires in 1994 on the eighteenth anniversary of which seven Israelis were killed in a terrorist outrage in Romania - purely a coincidence?
Hezbollah and Hamas are proscribed terrorist organisations that both call for the destruction of the State of Israel you can call them charitable organisations if you want it won't change what they really are. By the way what is Hezbollah currently resisting in Lebanon?
Please show me where Netanyahu has called for the firing of missiles at the Iranian people and sought destruction in their land. If as I strongly suspect you cannot then maybe you will do the honourable thing and withdraw that statement - but I doubt you know the meaning of honourable.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:21

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So how would israel strike Iran without firing missiles?
Calling for a strike on Iran involves firing missiles and killing people and causing destruction.

I mean look what happened in Gaza when hundreds of children were killed by so called 'surgical strikes'.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:23

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Any evidence of Iran's involvement with the bus bomb in Bulgaria?

Any evidence surfaced at all?

Bibi told us it was Iran so where is the evidence?


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:31

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because the Iranian loony hasn't the means at his disposal

The three thousand plus rockets with whatever warheads they possess supplied by Iran to Hezbollah obviously count for nothing in your book. Obviously since living in London you will just go on about your daily life as usual whilst countless lives are lost here - sometimes I am simply aghast at your complete failure to grasp even the most basic of facts - they want us dead - they keep on saying it and those of us who live here do not have the luxury of believing that they might not mean it when all the evidence is to the contrary.
A few thousand Iranians protesting about the failed economy does not a democracy make.


joshua789

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:41

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Countless lives will be lost when Israel attacks Iran. Perhaps you should think about that?

Now where is that evidence for Iran's involvment with the bus bomb?


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:42

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Advis3r, I take you back to your original contention - the comparison between Iran and Nazi Germany. It's totally fallacious. It's scare-mongering. It's the chicken-little argument.
Yes, they want you dead. But Israel isn't some poor defenceless non-entity; it's a highly developed, advanced, high-tech developing, nuclear-powered state with top-of-the-range ,missile systems. Iran is none of these.
And I didn't say that riots in Tehran make a democracy. But it's a start. Even your Foreign Minister thinks that.


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:44

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Joshua I doubt Mr Netanyahu would ever want to share Israeli intelligence information with the likes of you - why should he. Israel has the evidence it needs but it is hardly likely to disclose that evidence until it has effectively dealt with the perpetrators - and then you may or may not hear all about it. Find something else to rant about.


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:54

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Millis you are getting tiresome. I never mentioned Nazi Germany you did so don't project and conduct honest debate. What I did say was "after all when someone says they're going to annihilate you it's all bluff and bluster isn't it?" Now play nicely.
Your allusion to Israel's over powering arms superiority over Iran is equally tiresome. If heaven forbid Hezbollah were to fire just a small proportion of the 3000 missiles at its disposal at Israel will you guarantee no Israelis will be killed and there will be no widespread destruction that's without a nuclear capability?
Don't minimise the risk unless you are prepared to be the first to put your life on the line.


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 14:58

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Advis3r, the reference was clear

Chamberlain camp pre-WWII after all when someone says they're going to annihilate you it's all bluff and bluster isn't it?
Thank goodness for all of us Britain soon had that "warmonger" Churchill as Prime Minister.

So are you suggesting that Israel, with its own well-trained and highly motivated army as well as the backing of the greatest military superpower the world has ever seen, is some poor nebbish? Some nebbish!


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:11

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Jose have you ever considered moving to Israel ?


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:15

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RRZ, he does live in the vicinity of Israel, in the occupied territories, so leave it out


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:23

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Oh I know he lives in the vicinity

halfway to paradise...so near...yet so far away

do de da


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:29

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Millis Iran only has to be lucky once. As a friend who knows about these things explained it to me - if Iran had just one nuclear bomb and put it one rocket and then fired it with say 99 other rockets having conventional warheads at Israel who is to say Israel will down that particular rocket before it hit Israel?
BTW I live in Eretz Yisrael which I lawfully occupy as a Jew - get over it.


Real Real Zionist

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:47

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I'll take that as a no.


joemillis1959

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:49

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Advis3r, you live in the occupied territories. Get over it. And get over crying wolf while you are at it.


zaheerayin

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 15:50

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He's scared to move to Israel in case Iran nukes it.


Mary in Brighton

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 16:00

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lol


Advis3r

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 16:20

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Millis you can call where I live whatever you like and like the President of Iran deny our right to all of this land I and the other 40,000 citizens of the particular city where I live will call it whatever we like. Mary in Brighton can giggle like the idiot she is but it won't change the fact that we are here and we are here to stay and if that upsets you - so be it.
As to crying wolf if one of the most adept Intelligence Agencies in the World tells me that I have something to fear I think I will take their word over yours any day.
Moadim B'simcha!

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