#BDS Fail in Brighton


By Jonathan Hoffman
November 10, 2012
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There were only 4 interruptions of Batsheva's brilliant performance last night and all the cultural hooligans were loudly booed and yanked out onto the street commendably quickly by the security staff. I can't wait to see Batsheva in London. The reviews have been great so please buy your tickets if you have not already done so -- cultural hooligans excepted of course.

From today's Brighton Argus (page 5, columns 1-4, with photo - not in online edition)

Double protests outside Dome over Israeli dance performance

A large group of pro-israel supporters gatecrashed a planned protest outside the Brighton Dome last night. Pro-Palestinian campaigners had arranged to picket the performance of controversial dance group the Batsheva ensemble. But unknown to them, their opposite numbers had arranged a counter-demo, outnumbering the original protest. Ann Hallam from the Brighton Palestine Solidarity group said "We are boycotting the group's performance because they are part of Brand Israel. They are a state-funded group which is sent around the world to portray Israel as a cultured and vibrant place while ignoring the atrocities and persecution of the Palestinians."

And 60-70 pro-Israel supporters outshouted the 40-50 strong opposed as a line of police officers watched.

The dance group was originally set for two dates but Dome bosses pulled the second event in order to improve security. Evan Sorokin from the Sussex Jewish Representative Council said "whatever the rights and wrongs, politics should not interfere with art"

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Real Real Zionist

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 12:04

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Except to say that the man who got thrown out of The Royal Albert Hall for hooliganism is not well placed to talk of " cultural hooligans ".


zaheerayin

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 12:29

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Jonathan, I can't find the Argus article you refer to anywhere on the Argus web site. My friend can't find it in hard copy paper either. I sure would like to read the whole thing. Would you kindly post a link, please? Don't get yourself into trouble over this, your lunch break will do fine.


happygoldfish

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 14:25

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Real Real Zionist: YYYYYAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNNN

rrz doesn't seem interested that anti-israeli racists are disrupting uk theatre performances without being prosecuted ,

nor that the largely non-jewish audiences are firmly rejecting their philistinism!

btw, the reason the palestinians never called themselves "palestinians" before about 1980 was because the arabic word (beginning, of course, with an "f") is the same as the word for "philistines" … i trust the palestinians will not become philistines in the same way that their western supporters have!

Real Real Zionist: … the man who got thrown out of The Royal Albert Hall for hooliganism is not well placed to talk of " cultural hooligans".

as you well know, he wasn't thrown out for hooliganism, he was thrown out for waving an israeli flag in support of an israeli orchestra

Real Real Zionist

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 15:16

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The Albert Hall make it clear that they will not allow flags on a particular evening. A young yob in a hoodie smuggles a flag into the Hall and waves it provocatively in the faces of those he regards as his foes. You would call that hooliganism. The fact that it was done by a middle aged alleged grown-up "pillar of the community" doesn't make it less so. Nor does bragging about it afterwards.

Yes, you are right. I am about as interested in which of 2 parochial sand pit squabbling cults shouts the loudest on a particular occasion as I am in last Sunday's results in the Albanian basketball league.


Advis3r

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 15:23

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Especially for the fake Zionist:

Tirana triumphs in the country as they edged Basket Kamza in three games. The Winner of the Regular Season swept the Final series 3-0.
In Game 3 the favorites celebrated a 73:62 win. Tirana opened the game with 20-4 and never looked behind in the game. They had 34:17 midway through the second frame and led 11 points at the halftime. The difference remained the same after the first five minutes of the third quarter as well. Also after 16-16 in the frame the board showed 59:48 for the winning side. Basket Kamza managed to reduce to five points with 5 minutes to go, but failed to catch up. Tirana pushed the tempo for good and sealed the victory.
Bruno Daliu (202-C-85, college: Tusculum) top-scored for the winners with 23 points and 11 rebounds, while Endrit Hysenagolli (203-C-88) collected 20 points and 13 boards. Genti Lasku (194-G-85) notched 13 and Red Vogli had 10. Juxhin Talelli (194-G-86) ended up with 16 points in the losing effort, whilst Ardian Domi (199-F-84) posted 11. Algert Gjonaj (200-F-87) and Herion Faslija notched 10 points apiece in the losing case.

Source:http://www.eurobasket.com/Albania/basketball-League-A1_2011-2012.asp


Mary in Brighton

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 15:24

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Jonathan you better buy more than one ticket. The Dome was barely half full.


zaheerayin

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 15:27

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I do hope Jonathan will get around to providing me with this link.


suzanna

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 16:15

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Zaheerayin - I have also done a search on the Argus website (I searched under Batsheva, Dome, 10th November) and I couldn't find the article quoted above either.

Jonathan, could you put a link to the original article so we can read the whole article please?


suzanna

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 16:30

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I found this on today's Argus though:

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/business/10028397.Quakers_call_for_boycot...

perhaps one has to subscribe to read the article posted by Jonathan? Is that the case Jonathan? How do we read it?


happygoldfish

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 16:38

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(zaheerayin: it's on page 5, columns 1-4, with a photo … but not yet in the online edition)

Real Real Zionist: The Albert Hall make it clear that they will not allow flags on a particular evening.

yes, the (royal) albert hall has a racist policy of allowing german flags to be waved in support of a german orchestra, french flags to be waved in support of a french orchestra, but not israeli flags to be waved in support of an israeli orchestra

Real Real Zionist: A young yob in a hoodie smuggles a flag into the Hall and waves it provocatively in the faces of those he regards as his foes. You would call that hooliganism.

he didn't wave it "in the faces" of anyone, and no, no honest person would call simple flag-waving "hooliganism"!

provocation, i suppose, is in the eye of the beholder … unfortunately, there are people who always regard waving an israeli flag as provocation

rrz, you should be condemning the royal albert hall for their racist policy, not trying to compare harmless flag-waving with deliberate vocal disruption


suzanna

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 16:42

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'But not yet in on-line edition'.

That makes sense now.

Thanks for the clarification HappyGoldfish.


suzanna

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 16:52

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I teared up when I heard President Obama talk in his re-election speech about moving beyond war, "to shape a peace that is built on the promise of freedom and dignity for every human being."

He articulated beautifully the hopes and dreams of people of every faith and nation-- including Palestinians, who have lived under occupation and repression for too long.
Israelis too long for a true peace.

But it must be built on fairness.

I believe President Obama understands what must be done to reach a just resolution —but he failed to act because of domestic politics and threats by Israel Lobby groups.

And yet, after Tuesday’s election, I’m more energized than ever.

That’s because we know that Obama’s re-election is a chance to re-set our course on Israel and Palestine. The political calculus has changed and many of those threats turned out to be empty. And the terms of debate are changing every day. What was impossible yesterday becomes possible today.

But we must act together and we must act fast. The inauguration is only a few months away and we want to send a strong message that we will deliver in person.

Will you sign this open Letter to President Obama asking him to make sure US aid to Israel is conditioned on compliance with US and international law?

Click here: http://www.ObamaLetter.org

We've put together a growing coalition of Jews, Christians, Muslims and human rights and solidarity activists all asking President Obama for one thing—to make sure aid to Israel doesn't violate US laws which specifically prohibit assistance to any country which engages in a consistent pattern of human rights violations.

By delivering thousands of your signatures to President Obama by his inauguration we can send the message that no aid should ever be unconditional.

Click here: http://www.ObamaLetter.org

With gratitude,

Cecilie Surasky
Jewish Voice for Peace


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 17:01

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That is easy. Argus articles that appear online ( all of them ordinarily, at least on a search )are available for comment ( like a blog post ). This has been kept offline so that its content can't be challenged. It might be due to the influence of a certain editor who has just returned from an all expenses paid jolly to Israel ( courtesy of Sodastream.)

Otherwise happy it begins with a Y and ends with an N.If you think the Albert Hall has a racist policy in respect of flags then we can't take your use of the expression " racist" seriously. I never have anyway since you degrade the force of the expression by scattering it around like confetti. They knew they had a disruption issue on their hands and could foresee a battle of the flags compounding their problem. The ban applied to all flags, including Palestinian flags.

Suppose Breton separatism was a hot issue and they knew that Breton separatists were planning to disrupt a performance by a French orchestra. Obviously a mass of competing tricolors and Breton flags would make the task of minimising disruption more difficult. I am sure they would have adopted the self same policy.

I think this is just common sense. You can call it craven, and this would be arguable. But calling it racist only tells us that you are someone for whom a perception of racism is essential to your getting through the day.

Of course none of this applied to our narcissistic man/child.


Real Real Zionist

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 18:26

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Suzanna saw an interesting analysis of Obama's attitude today. That is he doesn't regard it as his job to prevent Israel committing suicide. If Israel is hell bent on one state he is not going to lie on the tracks to obstruct them.

Nonetheless I have signed Cecilie's letter.


joemillis1959

Mon, 11/12/2012 - 19:10

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So did it appear or not?


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 12:06

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It begins with a Y and ends with an N

"So did it appear or not?" No it did not appear. Has to be something to do with a certain freeloading editor, particularly as it turns out that the account was garbage. Someone is on the case.


joemillis1959

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 12:33

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No, RRZ, what I meant was: did appear in print, but not on line? If so, and according to the dictum that even a stopped clock is right twice a day, JH has indeed published of what the Argus said.


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 12:48

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Yes its in the print edition.


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 13:59

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happygoldfish

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 14:52

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Real Real Zionist: Yes its in the print edition.

at last!

Real Real Zionist: If you think the Albert Hall has a racist policy in respect of flags then we can't take your use of the expression " racist" seriously. … They knew they had a disruption issue on their hands and could foresee a battle of the flags compounding their problem. The ban applied to all flags, including Palestinian flags.

yes, for an israeli orchestra, only, all flags were banned!

they could easily have allowed israeli flags, supporting the orchestra, just as national flags would be allowed supporting any other country's orchestra

the royal albert hall's object should have been to prevent disruption of the performers

they had a choice between banning flags (etc) intended to disrupt the performers, or banning all flags, including of those silently show solidarity with the performers performing in difficult circumstances …

they opted for the racist choice

Real Real Zionist: … You can call it craven, and this would be arguable. But calling it racist only tells us that you are someone for whom a perception of racism is essential to your getting through the day.

a refusal to see racism where it exists is essential to much of what you and your friends write

the simple fact is, you will be thrown out of the royal albert hall for silently and innocuously supporting an israeli orchestra, you won't be for silently and innocuously supporting any other country's orchestra

that's discrimination, it's unnecessary, and it's racism


joemillis1959

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 14:57

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the simple fact is, you will be thrown out of the royal albert hall for silently and innocuously supporting an israeli orchestra, you won't be for silently and innocuously supporting any other country's orchestra

You will be if you are not so innocuous as to act like a pratt. And that's the main point here. So if I were to go to a performance of, say, the Berlin Phil performing one of Beethoven's symphonies and waved a German flag overly energetically, I would be ejected.


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 15:00

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Joe I am not really concerned about Hoff here. His lying and dissembling is legendary and thoroughly documented. My interest is what is going on at the Argus. I know in outline but the detail will be eye opening I suspect. Like I say folks are on the case.


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 11/13/2012 - 15:22

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Ha ha just seen JM'S last post. And of course the day Hoff is quiet and innocuous will be the day Hull City win the champions league.

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