The settlements as Fukushima

When the Jewish Chronicle allows blogs such as this one, above, it is exacerbating the problem experienced by Israeli students and Jewish students in Univeristies throughout the UK.

This link to a JC news item illustrates the problem

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/46717/israeli-students-fear-disclosing...

The only analagy to anything "nuclear" can be to the core of the reactor, buried deep inside the outer casing, in much the same way that these "as a jew" liberals are within our communites, in Israel and here in the UK, the only danger we can expect is from within, a "meltdown" to use the nuclear analagy.

The Arabs/Palestinians and non-Jewish anti-semites we can deal with but these self-hating useful idiots are a real menace.

It is very, very sad that the Jewish Chronicle sees fit to continually support blogs that do such damage.

Isn't democracy wonderful?!

This offensive drivel is completely unacceptable and must be removed. The poster is proving to one and all that he was indeed Telegram Sam.

The blog cites Ari Shavit, a centrist Israeli who has written in praise of Netanyahu. He's not some loud-mouthed demonstrator "activist". I will certainly not take lectures from someone who has been suspended from the Board of Deputies' International Division for alleged persistent rude and threatening behaviour. Jonathan, with your obsession for T. Rex, you have proven time and time again that you are the anti-Zionists' greatest asset

Although I dislike Ha'aretz with a passion, and although I loathe the JC's toleration of antisemitism on here, and although I often disagree with Joe and he with me, the fact remains that he's within his rights to articulate this point of view.

Many thanks, Yvetta. It is the view of many Israelis, who irrespective of the infanticide in Itamar believe that the settlement enterprise has been a huge error and a dreadful waste of resources. It might have seemed a good idea at the time but As Shavit says:

The future is staring at us in the face - a massive project built 40 years ago is threatening the state that built it.
The radiation emanating from it is lethal.

"I will certainly not take lectures from someone who has been suspended from the Board of Deputies' International Division for alleged persistent rude and threatening behaviour"

http://thejc.com/blogpost/statement-regarding-board-deputies-internation...

Twist away, TelegramSam - the Lord HawHaw of the JC Blogs. "Alleged persistent rude and threatening behaviour" is in your fetid little pea-sized mind.

That's your statement, Hoffman. You are quoting yourself. At least the board had the decency to refrain from comment Most real pro-israel actinides in Britain are embarrassed would not touch you with a barge pole. Honestly, how many supporters do you get at Ahava? Five, six or on a good day seven? And the antis love it when you turn up at their events.

Jonathan, Why don't you and your friends set up your own pro-Israel group -- you have Likud Herut UK as a framework -/ and see how it fares? I'm sure that because you've been so effective so far, it will be able to get the guardian, beeb and Indy staff singing Hatikva before every editorial meeting.

Yes, Joe, I know. I spent this afternoon with someone who sounds very similar to you in viewpoint.

This is the same Shavit who said if Israel left Gaza terrorist attacks would stop - what a fool.He also wrote in May 2004 that Jews living in Gaza were undeserving of protection by the IDF and that no soldier should defend them because they were not real Israelis.
So people reading this latest piece of trash should bear that in mind and rather than supporting this imbecile's outrageous views denounce this latest attempt at the demonization of a significant section of the Israeli people.

Significant section, Advis3r? What all 350000 of them in a population in 7 million? The settlement enterprise has been a toxic and costly mistake. It's our brother and sister settlers I pity the most, because they have been victims of a massive scam. Successive Israeli governments have used them as pawns by abusing their messianic dreams, giving them cheap housing and hoping against all hope that Israel can somehow hold on to the occupied territories and remain a Jewish democratic state.
Well, it can't. And now someone is going to have to explain to the settlers why their dreams of a Greater Land of Israel were abused. Now, for the greater good of the Jewish people and its only national homeland it will need to invest in the Negev and Galil, which are far more important to the state's future than a few rock strewn hills on the West Bank.

Joe, Joe, Joe, same old leftist nonsense. You are so wrong.
The West Bank as you call it, actually Judea and Samaria, is an integral part of Israel and will always be so.
Even if, and it is a very big IF now, (after last weeks atrocity), that should there there be a settlement with the people that call themselves "Palestinians" Israel will retain much of the area and all of the significant settlements built there.
Further, and as Netanyahu has said clearly, Israel will always retain a military presence West of the River Jordan to ensure that IF there was a Palestinian Arab State in part of Judea & Samaria it will always be a de-militarised zone, with all movement in and out controlled by Israel and with all air-space controlled by Israel.
At all costs Israel will resist an Iranian controlled Arab State to its Eastern border, with Iran controling Gaza and Lebanon, Israel does not need a third such problem.

Jon, you are parroting the same old self-delusional far right nonsense.
If Israel wants to survive as the Jewish democratic homeland for the Jewish nation it has to apologise to the settlers for abusing their hopes and dreams and leave the occupied territories to the Palestinians. Holding on to the occupied territories has been a toxic nightmare for Israel. It's time to wake up.

Apologise to the settlers? What nonsense.
It is the extreme left that you seem to be a part of that are self-delusional, and need to apologise to the rest of us and come back into the fold,the damage that all the left wing nonsense has wreaked is immense.
Instead of supporting our enemies working to the demise of Israel, you and your kind should come back into the fold and support Israel, (and us).

The whole international movement of BDS and the zillions of web sites supporting Palestinian rights and the protests and the marches are all in response to the brutal and illegal occupation. It would make sense to leave the Palestinians what little bit of territory they have left, take down the Apartheid walls and watch towers and gun turrets and stop all the paraphernalia of occupation.
Justice for Palestine is well overdue.

Here we go Joe, another one of your nutty left supporters chips in.
Whats next Lukas?
Give back Tel Aviv?
Evacuate every-one that is not Arab?
Sorry buddy, it ain't going to happen.
"Justice for "Palestine", as you put it, this will only happen when the Palestinian Authority recognise Israel's right to exist as the Jewish State, in Peace and Security - then and only then there might be some meaningful negotiations.

No, I don't think it means 'give back' (your words not mine, indicative that it was taken in the first place)Tel Aviv.
Israel does absolutely nothing to further peace. Israel ignores all international law and continues to build illegal settlements. Documents show that the PA was prepared to make humiliating concessions to Israel but Israel arrogantly and casually brushed them aside.
Israel doesn't want peace. It thrives and seemingly enjoys humiliating and subjugating a weak and defenceless population.

Jon, I support Israel. But supporting the toxic settlement enterprise in the occupied territories will only serve to bring about its demise. Stop deluding yourself that Israel can continue to be the national homeland of the Jewish if it has a non-Jewish majority. Abandon the nightmare and join us in ensuring Israel's future.

Joe, you have a funny way of showing your "support".
Siding with the enemy is known as collaboration or treason, NOT "support".

Jon, it's a bit much to accuse people who support settlements of treason or of collaboration. Self-delusioned, certainly because settlements get the enemy off the hook. But treason? You are far too hard on yourself.

Joe, is it some sort of left-wing malaise that stops you from understanding what has been written?

Or perhaps as it's Purim you choose to be obtuse

Jon it's you and people like you whose views however well intentioned help the anti-zionists to rail against Israel. If I were you I'd look no further than the mirror if I wanted to see someone helping bring about the demise of israel as a Jewish democratic state.