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By Joe Millis
July 11, 2011
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But after the passing of a law banning calling for boycotting settlement produce, the country that used to be "the only democracy in the Middle East" is stopping being so and is going the way of all paranoid states. And just when people in its neighbouring countries are laying down their lives to create democracies, Israel wants to be Iran- or Syria-lite.
buy Israeli goods

I urge a boycott of settlement produce and of settlers. So sue me.

There is already a facebook group with more than 3,300 members, entitled "Sue me, I am boycotting settlement produce".

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Robert Snodgrass

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:34

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Boycotting fellow Jews Joe? Your mother must be very proud of you.

By the way, do you class East Jerusalem as 'occupied territory'


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:48

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Snodgrass, when I was a kid we didn't go to Spain because of Franco. We didn't go to Greece because of the Colonels. We didn't buy South African goods until Mandela was freed. So, yes, I suspect my mother would be proud. And I am calling for buying Israeli produce, not that from the settlements.
East Jerusalem is occupied territory too.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:38

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That's ok Millis every time someone has tried to boycott Israeli goods sales go up keep up the good work.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:42

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They aren't Israeli goods, they are settlement goods. I urge a boycott of them and those who live in the toxic settlements


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:44

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I bet you are pleased of your part in turning Israel into a state for only far right and orthodox Jews. We've always been let down by the zealots. Mecharvayich ve'meharsayich etc.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:48

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"East Jerusalem is occupied too" - So you now deny our rights to the Old City. I was willing to accept that your arguments that peace would only come about following a withdrawal from parts of Judea and Samaria the Arabs want for a State may have some merit if the Arabs would only once for all accept the validity of Jewish people's aspirations in its ancient homeland - however there are hardly any Israelis whether from the left or right who would give up sovereignty over the Jewish holy places in east Jerusalem or abandon areas that are predominantly Jewish. Jerusalem has only ever been the capital of a Jewish State it has never been an Arab city - maybe you should think about this more. I trust on reflection you will realise your error. Jerusalem is a red line - it's on the Arab wish list but that's as far as it is going to get. If the world can tell us we have Tel Aviv we can tell the Arabs they have Ramallah.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:51

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No Millis Ahava products according to the nutjobs who infested the area outside the shop in Convent Garden are manufactured in the occupied territories whatever that is supposed to mean.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:52

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OK Millis you had better stop answering my posts I live in Judea. Phew peace at last!


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:00

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You claim to live in a settlement, but evidence and your alteregos suggest otherwise.
East jerusalem is occupied territory until it's status is determined by negotiation, not unilateral annexation by the Israelis.
There were two groups of nutjobs outside Ahava. The one-staters of both sides. They deserved each other.
But since the Israeli government has seen fit to pass this law, I feel obliged to stop buying settlement produce and urge others to do the same. And if that means not buying Ahava's overpriced face goo, so be it.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:02

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I still haven't heard how proud you are of helping destroy Israel. So much potential, such a shame it was destroyed by zealots. Again.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:17

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Sorry to disappoint Millis but I do not have any alter egos, why you should doubt my sincerity on this eludes me and I do live in Judea from where this post is being written. The rules of this website do not permit me to state my precise location but since I am living in a settlement you have broken your own boycott. As to this law my regret only is that a majority in the Knesset felt obliged to pass it.
People are as you say entitled to hold divergent views this is what keeps living in Israel more lively but because a democratically elected majority do not hold views consistent with yours, and those views are at least equally as valid, even if you do not agree with them should entitle you to actively connive with enemies of the State of Israel in order to cause its downfall. The US has similar laws which prevent US companies supporting the Arab boycott of Israel if it is good enough for them why should it not be good enough for the country which has to bear the brunt of these boycotts.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:19

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Of course I meant to write "should not entitle you ..."


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:32

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Your style is reminiscent of someone, an allegedly Dutch, French, south African who has been barred twice.
The only people I see conniving with Israel's enemies are those who support the occupation and the settlements.
Oh and I'm entitled to any view my conscience allows.
Boycott settlement produce now!


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:34

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Israel, the democratic home of the Jewish people, 1948-2011, murdered in it's sleep by zealots.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:35

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That's funny Millis the settlements or rather communities have been in place for over thirty years now during which time Israel has achieved unprecedented growth and is a world leader in innovation, technology medicine et al. The only people who are upset by this would have been upset anyway by Israel's temerity in existing at all - so please wise up. If you started believing and not act the ghetto Jew every time some anti-Semite accuses Israel of committing war crimes or crimes against humanity you would realise that our claims to this land far outweigh any other - that's what troubles the Arabs and their supporters so much so that they have to resort to delegitimisation. Knowing of course that the world supports the "underdog" they have kept the Palestininas in wretched conditions, maintained the facade of underprivilege by giving them UNWRA and have failed to re-settle them but instead perpetuated their homelessness/statelessness. This is what you are now supporting by your futile call for a boycott.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:52

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I had to laugh at your comment "laying down their lives to create democracies" - you obviously are not keeping up with events in Egypt even the scurrilous Bowen does not trust it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13371974


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:57

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"Style reminiscent" - So I suppose since Renoir painted in a style reminiscent of Monet - there was no Renoir it was all Monet but he signed it with a different monicker. QED?


Robert Snodgrass

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:59

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Mills, i am ashamed to call you a fellow Jew. For you to claim that East Jerusalem is 'occupied territory' is abhorrent.

Between 1948 and 1967, under Jordanian occupation, East Jerusalem became Judenrein and the Arabs tried their best to eliminate any trace of Jewish history in the old city.

For you to come onto a Jewish website and proclaim that this should happen again is a disgraceful act, and thankfully, we have strong people in power who will lie their lives on the line to ensure people like you do not get their wish.

Jerusalem is and the eternal capital of Jerusalem and will remain undivided. 99% of Jews I know, whether they be left or right, religious or secular will tell you the same thing. You’re a disgrace and I don’t know why I have wasted my time addressing your post.

Finally, as Israel conquered Jerusalem from the Jordanians, does the fact that they have rescinded their claim towards the land not count for something?


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:07

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Snodgrass, you know what? I couldn't give a flying Michael brown tackle about what you and other zealots think is abhorrent or whether you are ashamed or not.
The only disgrace here is someone hiding behind the name of rubbish Leeds utd footballers - and I use the term advisedly.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:08

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"advis3r" that's precisely the argument he's used.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:24

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Robert Snodgrass

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:28

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Joe, you need to read a book called Jüdische Selbsthass. It's about "self-hating Jews" which is often used rhetorically to discount Jews who differ in their lifestyles, interests or political positions. But mainly about Jews who are uncomfortable with their Jewishness. So basically you.

And Joe, do you know what? Israel couldn't give a flying Michael Brown what you think either. The leaders know what is best for the country and try as you might, these people are tough, and the opinion of a pampered young man from an affluent part of the UK will have zero influence on decision making.

Therefore, I needn’t worry that the opinion of an ‘Uncle Tom’ Will have any influence on policy.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:34

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No, the self-hating Jews are those who stand with neo-Nazi EDL types, especially those who resort to using "uncle Tom" racist terminology. That'll be you.
Israel isn't Judaism. And it's rapidly becoming a footnote in Jewish history. Mainly because of people like you who hide behind the name of a rubbish Leeds Utd footballers.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:38

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"Advis3r", Israel has made progress only because of the financial and diplomatic support it gets from the Yanks. If they pull the rug away, forget loan guarantees, forget good bank credit, forget vetoes in the UN. Israel will be just like its neighbours - massive unemployment, growing number of welfare dependents (because those of the productive Middle Class who can leave, will) and tribal riots. Well done, Zealots, for doing our enemies' work and destroying Israel. Again.


Robert Snodgrass

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:51

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I have so many things to come back with Joe, but I give up. Not interest in going round in circles. You haven’t come up with a fact all day, you just call anyone who disagrees with you a zealot and accuse us of running with the EDL. This isn't a debate, it’s a spoilt little man screaming because he didn't get his own way and I’m out of here. This blog has become inhospitable to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:07

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Running away, Snodgrass? Glad to see you emulating the "big, strong men" you so love in Israel. Zealots do runners when they have nothing else to say. And zealots have destroyed Jewish sovereignty yet again.


Harvey

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:09

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Robert , advisor
I made a decision to stop responding in first person to millis
Suggest you do the same
Starve the " as a Jew / not in my name " brigade from any response and they will dry up


Rich Armbach

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:18

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Yes, Israel does seem increasingly clueless about what democracy means


Joe Millis

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:18

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Never used "as a Jew" coz I don't see how it's relevant. But I like the not in my name notion. So thanks for that.


Advis3r

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 18:19

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You addressed me breaking your boycott again!

The canard that Israel has made progress only because of US patronage is the same one used by the anti-Semites in the US. Maybe you should be posting with your chums on the skrewdriver.org site.


Harvey

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 13:34

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Millis
Now that you have moved on from the Jewish News ,
would you care to comment on the editorial dated the 28th July 2011 . The editorial gave air to the disgusting lie that our small group of pro Israel activists campaigning outside Ahava were linked to the EDL on the basis that several of them turned up at the demos . Not content with that the editorial went on to make a connection between us the EDL and the massacre in Norway . The EDL were not invited to join us and they were asked to leave . The police refused our requests to place the EDL in a separate pen away from our group . As far as I'm aware the Jewish News did not visit the demo in order to interview all sides .
I have asked your old boss Richard Ferrer for answers as to how this disgusting calumny of lies came to be printed and who was behind it but to no avail .
I am therefore inviting you on your blog which supports bds , to confirm or deny that you were responsible for the editorial .
Secondly , were your new employers the UJIA aware of your stated position on boycott when you applied for the position ?


suzanna

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 13:49

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Regarding the EDL - there seems to be a clutch of photographs showing the EDL and Jonathan Hoffman in close and friendly proximity.


suzanna

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 13:54

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Also you have to admit that without the US Israel’s apartheid project would come to a swift halt. It is only the US - with the money and the Veto - that permits the occupation and the apartheid to continue.


joemillis1959

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:19

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Harvey,
1. I joined the JN only in October 2011, after I finished writing my book (you can look it up on Amazon to see what it's about, please pre-order) so the editorial was written well before I was a staff member. As a general rule, editorials are written either by editors (which I wasn't) or designated leader writers - which was not my role, either.
2. As I have published openly and clearly, I suspect people know my views. Add to that the feeble hate letters citing one of your bestie friendsies, I imagine my present employers know.
3. I'm not sure you correctly read the heading of the blog: It's "Buy Israeli goods". And it appears both in Hebrew and in English. How is that supporting BDS?


suzanna

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:25

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3. I'm not sure you correctly read the heading of the blog: It's "Buy Israeli goods". And it appears both in Hebrew and in English. How is that supporting BDS?

Harvey is a taxi driver remember.
Not the sharpest pencil . . . and all that.


Harvey

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:27

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There's also a clutch of photographs showing the Neturei Karta , friends of the British National party , alongside the Psc at most every demo. . Bosom buddies so to speak .
The difference being that our group never invited the EDL, unlike the Psc who welcomed the NK to every demo like long lost friends .
This proves that the Psc is a fascist organisation .One which is prepared to stand alongside other fascists, in this case Jewish fascists , as long as they support the cause .
I'm looking forward to seeing the psc squirm when their friends turn up to their next hate fest .


joemillis1959

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:29

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I have nothing against taxi-drivers. To suggest that taxi-drivers are thick is to deny that Fred Housego, a taxi-driver, won Mastermind.
Deliberate misinterpretation, however, is a problem confined not only to taxi-drivers.


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:29

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Harvey you are a big fan and eulogiser of Roberta Moore who is too crazy even for the EDL. Do you want me to quote examples ?


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:33

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"Robert , advisor
I made a decision to stop responding in first person to millis
Suggest you do the same"

Very next post....

"Millis........"


zaheerayin

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:42

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Excuse me, but I seem to remember reading Richard Millet's blog where Harvey extends the invitation to Roberta Moore and the other "regular" bloggers there praise the benefits that the EDL brings to a demonstration, in numbers and volume.


suzanna

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 14:54

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Why bring the PSC into this? (We are not discussing the PSC) we are discussing you, Jonathan Hoffman and the EDL. (Of which there seems to be plenty of photographic evidence suggesting collaboration)


Harvey

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:01

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Millis
You know nothing about me or what I do for a living .
However , your comments tell me all I need to know about your character and how you judge people . In that you are no different from some of the other drac which comments here .
Wasn't it Private Eye who coined the term Reptile press . They sure had your number !
Incidentally , did your family and friends regard your move from the JC to a free throwaway as a positive career move .
I've viewed your Linked in profile . Not much to write home about for Joe - 59


Harvey

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:05

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Boycott , Millis , psc . Jfjffffppp , Ism. ,
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It's all the same , just a question of degree .
That's why I mention it . It all rolls into one .


Real Real Zionist

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:07

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I am sending Richard Ferrer some material that may help him in dealing with Harvey's complaint.


joemillis1959

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:07

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Garfield, sorry but you seem to have reading issues. My 13:29 makes it very clear where I stand on taxi-drivers.
Glad you liked the Linked-In profile. I'll now update it to include the book, Jerusalem, the Illustrated History of a Holy City (Andre Deutsch), out on 13 September and available to pre-order on Amazon.
Now, Harvey, you'll have to excuse me, some of us have work.


zaheerayin

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:09

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Kinda like ZF, EDL, BNP.......


Harvey

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:30

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I can already see it on display at the next Camden psc meeting .
Incidentally , you have a remarkable resemblance to Ronnie Kasrils . Certainly your position on Israel is not dissimilar . Are you related per chance ?


suzanna

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:45

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'You know nothing about me or what I do for a living .
However , your comments tell me all I need to know about your character and how you judge people . . . '

You are repeating yourself. I know that's how you earn your living - driving around and around in circles repeating the same old guff - but surely you have the wit to evolve once in a while?


Harvey

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:47

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That s because it applied to you . That's why you are reading it again .


Mary in Brighton

Tue, 07/10/2012 - 15:47

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Harvey sweetie are you planning on attending the next Camden PSC meeting ? Your obsession with PSC has become a derangement. Do your fares get to hear all about it ? Is that good for business ?

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