An answer to the self-obsessed, self-loving Jews

Yawn. You take one anonymous quote and try to make an argument from it.

Pathetic, T-Sam.

Hoffman, have you had any better ideas rather than automatically resorting to ad homs?
Let's hear your solution to the conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians. How would you, as co-vice-chair of the ZF or even in a personal pro-Israel capacity, go about solving the issue?

J Street is a joke of an organisation and I agree wholeheartedly that there is no place for them. You quote one of its members of saying "We do not, however, support Israel’s policies unconditionally. That is not true love." In my view, love that comes with conditions in not true love.

The people at J Street are barely Jewish as it is, and they have yet to do one positive thing for the people of the state they claim to represent. Until these people go and live in Israel and experience for themselves the real threats Israel has to put up with every day, then they are entitled to have say on what Israel should and should not do.

Whilst they continue to engage with the enemies of the Jewish people, they can't expect the state of Israel to bend over backwards for them. Israel has survived pretty well over the last 62 in spite of these armchair "zionists".

You claim at the end Joe that "If this continues, it's basically the end of Zionism...". I beg to differ, and as a member of the so called new generation of Jews coming up, i assure you that me and all my Jewish friends are as Zionist as anyone before us.

Robert, is Israel a child that it needs unconditional love?

Until these people go and live in Israel and experience for themselves the real threats Israel has to put up with every day, then they are entitled to have say on what Israel should and should not do.

I take it a "not" is missing. (If not, I agree with you). But if it is, then Jews have every right to say what they think, because Israel is the national homeland of the Jewish people.
I also take it that, playing for Leeds United, you don't live in Israel, either. Another "armchair Zionist".
Say hello to Richard Millet

Correct Joe, I do not live in Israel. This is why I have no right what so ever to publicly criticise and demonise Israel, which is not something i care to do anyway.

As a Jew in the diaspora, and one who possess LOYALTY, Israel will always have my full support. In my heart of hearts, I believe that everything Israel does, it does because it is necessary. Israel is not perfect Joe, but find me a country that is.

If you really believe Israel is the national homeland of the Jewish people, then why does it seem to me that you do everything in your power to cause its demise? am i missing something?

A great man once said "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last", so here's a free tip Joe, stop trying to appease our enemies, because once they get through with the Israelis, they will be after you!

Robert, by telling Israel what it wants to hear rather than what it needs to hear you are displaying neither love nor loyalty. I would find it extremely disloyal to tell Israel that it's fine to hold on the occupied territories and continue building settlements, because that isn't the truth.
The people who are helping its demise as a democratic and Jewish state of which we can all be proud and support are those who believe it is OK to continue the occupation. By doing so, Israel will soon, if not all ready, rule over a non-Jewish majority, most of whom are disenfranchised. Is that what you want? Can you support that kind of state?

In this country, and I assume it is the case in America, everyone has the right to comment on anything, and hold and express any opinion whatsoever, subject to the laws relating to incitement, to violence, racial hatred,religious hatred,ethnic hatred etc.

A good point, extremely well made, Katie