Justin Bieber and Anne Frank: Why the fuss?


By Jennifer Lipman
April 15, 2013
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Dear Kitty (as Anne Frank never wrote),

"I'm soo sick of being stuck in hiding, because my dad keeps telling me to turn down the volume on my Justin Bieber CD. If only I could get out to go and see him on tour…"

Clearly, Anne– the teenage diarist forced into hiding by the Nazis, who eventually died at Bergen Belsen – had more serious considerations than the average 21st century western teenager. In her diary, perhaps one of the most well-known examples of Holocaust-era testimony, she wrote of an everyday existence blighted by fear, death and hatred.

How tragic, knowing what became of her, to read her words: "Although I'm only fourteen, I know quite well what I want, I know who is right and who is wrong. I have my opinions, my own ideas and principles."

Yet those who have read Anne's diary will recall that, for all that her life was unlike many young people then and since, she was in many ways a typical teenager - frustrated by her mother, confused about boys. She could be petulant, she could be irrational. In another life, it's not a stretch to imagine she might have been – as Bieber claimed this week – a fan of some fairly atrocious music. One of the many tragedies of her story is that she never got the chance to be embarrassed by her teenage passions.

Bieber is facing opprobrium for writing in the Anne Frank House guestbook that "Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber."

The correct response to a tale of persecution - to wonder whether the victim would have liked your latest video? Not to most of us, attuned to the sensitivities of discussing the Holocaust. As Karen Pollock, chief executive of the Holocaust Educational Trust, noted, his message left her "a bit lost for words".

Gillian Walnes, co-founder of the Anne Frank Trust UK, issued a sterner rebuke. "This is a place where Anne Frank spent two years," she said. "Now 70 years later a pop singer is trying to hijack this for his own self-aggrandisement."

She has a point, not least that Justin Bieber didn't reach stratospheric levels of success without being a shameless self-publicist. If his visit had been purely a visit – rather than, at least in part, a publicity stunt – we wouldn't even have heard about it.

Of course it trivialises the Holocaust to talk about whether one of its most famous victims would have been a fan of a singer with ridiculous hair; far more crucial to reflect on the piles of human hair, seized by the Nazis from their helpless victims, preserved at Auschwitz and other concentration camps. Of course the legacy of a girl who died before her 16th birthday for no other reason than being born a Jew, deserves more than contemplation as to how she would have spent her weekends if they'd been hers to spend.

Yet look on almost every news site around today. Yes, there are headlines about Bieber. But there are also headlines about Anne Frank, and the Holocaust – articles that his mostly tween fanbase would be unlikely to peruse without Bieber's photograph accompanying them. Anne is even a trending topic on Twitter.

And it matters. It matters because in 2009 a survey revealed that one in 20 British kids thought Hitler was a football coach, and because in a decade, there won't even be survivors left to talk to them at schools, or grandparents around to share their memories. It matters because when Baroness Thatcher died, the interest of a confused generation was piqued mainly by a tweet from Harry Styles. It matters because children listen far more to their role-models than they do to well-meaning teachers.

We can lament that as a sign of a generation brought up on reality TV and 140 characters of trash, or we can see it as an opportunity, and look to these "stars", with their poor spelling and ignorant remarks, and recruit them to spread the word about important issues. They'll do it if it gives them good publicity; teachers and organisations should seize on that.

We'll never know whether Anne Frank would have been a "belieber" and, if we had the chance, I'd hope it wouldn't be the first question we'd put to her. But if even one 14-year-old asks his parents or teachers today about why she lived in an attic, or reads her moving diary, then we'll have Justin Bieber and his ridiculous remark to thank.

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happygoldfish

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 09:06

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Jennifer Lipman: But if even one 14-year-old asks his parents or teachers today about why she lived in an attic, or reads her moving diary, then we'll have Justin Bieber and his ridiculous remark to thank.

yes

justin bieber seems simply to have written what he would have said to anne if she'd been there

the achterhuis is not belsen: it is where anne frank lived, not where she died: it is where she was a follower of 40s "personalities", and covered her walls with magazine and postcard pictures (see http://www.annefrank.org/en/Museum/Collecties/The-secrets-of-Annes-room/ and http://www.annefrank.org/en/Subsites/Home/Enter-the-3D-house/#/house/24/ ), many of them of actresses and princesses (but not, i think, of singers, and not … yet … of boys)

it is perfectly realistic to imagine that this teenager might have followed boy bands and singers had she had the opportunity (no doubt one day someone will get a doctorate for discussing whether she would have been a "belieber" )

when a politician leaves a message in the visitors' book at the anne frank museum or at yad vashem, everyone just thinks "well he goes because he has to, and he would say that, wouldn't he?"

but when justin bieber leaves a message, some 20 or 30 million girls around the world take notice, that he goes because he wants to, and that he says what he feels

justin bieber was "discovered" when he was 13, and is still only 19 (and one month)

singers, unlike politicians, say what they feel … and 19-year-olds, unlike politicians, are not well-known for expressing themselves safely

the boy done good!

Jewish American...

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 13:50

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Justin Bieber is a narcissistic immature impulsive prat...as most of America knows. He's a Brittany Spears style American packaged commodity that Disney is famous for. It's all over the radio waves and the telly. His tantrums are legendary. Leave it to "the Bieb" to make Anne Frank's story all about him.


happygoldfish

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 17:19

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959: The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: Then he's like the Goldfish - aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. And about as talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


happygoldfish

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 17:44

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Fri, 17:24) Then he's like the Goldfish - aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. And about as talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


happygoldfish

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 09:52

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Mon, 09:28) Then he's like the Goldfish - aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. And about as talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


happygoldfish

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 12:04

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Mon, 11:29) Then he's like the Goldfish - aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. And about as talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


happygoldfish

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 16:45

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Mon, 15:29) aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc … Then he's like the Goldfish. And even less talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


joshua789

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 14:36

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'Ecouter et repeter . . . ' Lol

That fish (AKA Jose) is stuck in a dull loop.

By the by I agree with the post. The guy is 19, famous, possibly self centred but what he said is niether offensive, insensitive or self aggrandising. What it did do is bring Anne Frank and her short life back into focus. Which is no bad thing.

p.s. Do you reckon Jonathan Hoffman is a belieber?


Mary in Brighton

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 15:10

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Speaking of Jonathan. What is he up to these days ?


happygoldfish

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 15:55

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Tue, 13:37) The JC used to have a policy of blocking Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. Why not now? …
Then he's like the Goldfish. And even less talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


joemillis1959

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 16:10

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Ecouter et repeter and well done for continuing to ignore the Goldfish (aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc). Keep up the good work.

The JC used to have a policy of blocking Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. Why not now?

Justin Bieber is a narcissistic immature impulsive prat

.

Then he's like the Goldfish. And even less talented.

By the way, where's Jonathan Hoffman gone? Has his delete/repeat policy cost him?


happygoldfish

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 16:18

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joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Tue, 16:10) The JC used to have a policy of blocking Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc. Why not now? …
Then he's like the Goldfish. And even less talented.

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe miliis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned


happygoldfish

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 16:18

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there are racists on this website who think there is nothing wrong with lying, so long as they are criticising israel, or criticising people who defend israel

they decide what they want to be true, and then say it anyway, in the absence of any evidence other than their own prejudice, and often contrary to the actual evidence

one reason why so few people defend israel on thejc.com … compared with other sites such as the guardian's "comment is free" … is the unchecked lying or bullying that they'll sooner or later be subjected to


happygoldfish

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 16:18

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joemillis1959: (Mon, 10:53) He may claim he's not, he may introduce all sorts of snazzy colourful backgrounds and daft graphics - any one with a modicum of HTML coding knowledge can do that (and Jose claimed to be a computer whizz kid) - but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence. Just ignore him.

some historians are motivated by a desire to present events in a manner consistent with their own beliefs even if that involves distortion and manipulation of evidence

joe millis is the author of an illustrated history of jerusalem

if his approach to evidence as a historian is as reliable as in his accusation against me, then his book may be an excellent buy as a work of fiction, or as a children's picture book, but cannot seriously be considered as a reliable research resource


happygoldfish

Tue, 04/23/2013 - 16:19

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to return to the topic

bbc radio 4, in sunday's "broadcasting house", discussed this very topic …

deborah moggach, who adapted anne frank's diary for the 2009 bbc tv series, was interviewed, and relayed anne frank's stepsister, eva schloss's, views about anne's musical preferences
you can still listen to it online, or download a podcast, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s030k (starts at 0:32, ands at 0:40)


Ben F

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 15:19

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Is Stephen Pollard on vacation?


Rich Armbach

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 15:23

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Wouldn't you be ?


zaheerayin

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 15:24

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And if Jenni's choices for your viewing pleasure miss the mark:

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
Season 1 Episode 3 of 16
Plenty of Baggage Adrienne invites the ladies and their husbands to her casino resort, but a fight breaks out between Camille and Kyle, which continues all the way home
Category Challenge/Reality Show
ITV2 4:10pm-5:05pm (55 minutes) Tue 16 Jul
(Subtitles) (Repeat) Starts in 1 hour(s) 14 minutes
Read more at http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail.asp?id=3677762#vlWHdcmpsLhFoyF7.99


zaheerayin

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 15:27

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Oh crap, I forgot a smiley face.


Rich Armbach

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 15:31

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Adrienne ? Isn't she an EDL moll ?


zaheerayin

Tue, 07/16/2013 - 15:36

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Are you calling Melchett Mike a turnip?


joemillis1959

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 11:11

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Far be it from it from me to do such a thing. Anyway, that would be farming not the bit of minor pruning that's gone on here. For which much thanks.

The moderating must be undergoing a gradual overhaul, since Jose the Blacklisted Goldfish/Anthony Posner is still mucking around. I don't believe it's Jennifer Lipman; she seems far too sensible and has a much better writing style for that.


zaheerayin

Wed, 07/17/2013 - 17:54

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Jenni, does the SCoJec know you've turned their memo blogs into your own personal TV guide blog?


Advis3r

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 13:37

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"Oh cr*p, I forgot a smiley face".Actually zaheerayin a witch on a broomstick would have been more appropriate


joemillis1959

Thu, 07/18/2013 - 17:35

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Misogyny? Again?


Rich Armbach

Mon, 07/22/2013 - 10:14

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Advis3r

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 09:20

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One of the Fraudulant Zionists better posts!

Joe qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent. If the z person would have male I would have suggested this guy
http://www.11points.com/images/redneck-overalls.jpg
it's got nothing to do with who she is but what she stands for.


joemillis1959

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 11:23

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Norm, oderint dum metuant. Or better still: Non mittam prople sicat vincas


Harvey

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 17:12

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Here's one for the PSC
http://www.timesofisrael.com/former-fatah-leader-sues-abbas-for-intimida...
Dahlan sues the PA for corruption and a whole lot more - and uses an Israeli law firm # BDS fail


Harvey

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 17:27

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https://mobile.twitter.com/benabyad/status/360048799638487041
Ben White picks up on it . Has a WTF tweet # BDS fail


Ben F

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 17:36

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And here's one for you, Harvey.

http://wp.me/s3LsFQ-30


Rich Armbach

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 17:38

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Jose I never had a male in my entire life except maybe for a male haddock with my chips


Ben F

Wed, 07/24/2013 - 17:38

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#ziofail


Advis3r

Mon, 07/29/2013 - 12:51

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Armbach since I was not addressing you why do you feel so constrained as to offer us another of your incomprehensible puerile remarks - do you really not have any life at all?

BenF is leading the field for the most idiotic Anti-Israel Delusion Syndrome (AIDS) sufferer - however that doesn't say much for the rest of them.


Rich Armbach

Mon, 07/29/2013 - 13:57

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And you Jose do you have any plans to make aliyah and move to Israel ? I hear it is a really nice place.


Harvey

Mon, 07/29/2013 - 17:32

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Sara Apps shared a link.
Nov 13, 2012 near London, England ·
I am avoiding Starbucks from now on.... not because of the completely spurious nonsense about them giving money to the Israeli Defence Forces (er, no they don't) but because of their crappy defense of their dodgy taxes http://starbucks.co.uk/blog/starbucks-commitment-to-the-uk/1240
Starbucks Commitment to the UK
starbucks.co.uk
5 Likes·5 Comments

Here's a find . Sarah Apps # High Priestess of BDS Cult comes clean regarding the libellous attacks on Starbucks . Thanks Sarah ! Screen Saved and distributed # BDS fail


Harvey

Mon, 07/29/2013 - 17:47

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Eric Burdon Israel performance back on

http://www.timesofisrael.com/?p=615870

# BDS fail


happygoldfish

Tue, 07/30/2013 - 16:11

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joemillis1959 : I too will continue to ignore him.

joe, do you actually read what you write?

ooh, wait … you're ignoring me some more!

joemillis1959 : …may I remind one and all to ignore his stuff.

it's a good job you're here to help them!

joemillis1959 : Another good tell that this Goldfish is none other the previously barred aforementioned is the fact that he will call everyone that disagrees with him a racist.

that's another lie (and a very obvious one)
joe millis, please stop ignoring my reply to your lie about me, and deleting it and reposting it later as if it was new
you have now repeated your lie over 50 times
here's my reply again

joemillis1959 : The JC used to have a policy of banning Anthony Posner and his various aliases: Blacklisted Dictator/Jose/Mitnachel et al. Let's reinstate that policy for his current alias, Happy Goldfish.

joemillis1959: (Mon 22nd April, 15:29) aka Anthony Posner/Jose/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc … Then he's like the Goldfish. And even less talented.

joemillis1959: (Thu 25th April, 16:52) Jose/Anthony Posner/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc is the Goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Fri 26h April, 17:39 & 18:28; Tue 30th April, 09:41 & 10:00): Jose/Anthony Posner/Blacklisted Dicktator/etc - aka the Happy Goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Mon 29th April, 18:06; Mon 29th April, 18:34): Why can't the JC deal with "Happy Goldfish" who also goes by the names off Lbnaz/Jose/blacklisted d/Anthony p/ etc? They were banned, why not he?

joemillis1959 (Thu 13th June, 18:59): I see that crappy goldfish/Jose/blacklisted Posner/ Anthony dick-tator etc is still posting and reposting despite being barred here several times.

joemillis1959 (Fri 19th July, 15:58 & 17:39): The only anti-arab racist I see here is Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator

joemillis1959 (Fri 19th July, 17:54): Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator… All Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator ever does is re-post inanities, just like those whom you previously banned did. That's because he is one and the same as them.

joemillis1959 (Fri 19th July, 18:12 & 18:49): … Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator … always claimed that all who disagreed with his view of Israel was a "racist". …All Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator ever does is …because he is one and the same as them.

joemillis1959 (Fri 19th July, 18:51): As usual Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator …

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 09:21 & 12:04 & 12:14 & 13:28): … Jose the goldfish/Posner the blacklisted dictator.

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 10:04 & 11:24 & 13:26): … Jose the goldfish/Posner the blacklisted dictator again …

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July,13:25): … Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator … Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the Blacklisted Dictator …

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 13:29): … Jose the goldfish/Anthony he blacklisted dictator …

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 14:23): Jose the blacklisted dictatorial goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 15:28): … Jose the goldfish - blacklisted on so many websites … hiding behind many pseudonyms.

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 17:45 & 18:03 & 18:39 & 18:54): Jose the blacklisted cowardly dictatorial Goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Mon 22nd July, 17:46 & 18:06 & 18:39 & 18:59): I'm surprised that the JC allows a banned blogger like Jose the blacklisted dictatorial Goldfish-Posner …

joemillis1959 (Tue 23rd July, 13:15 & 14:29 & 15:44): … Jose Anthony Posner the blacklisted dictator Goldfish.

joemillis1959 (Tue 23rd July, 16:27): Jose the Goldfish/Anthony Posner the blacklisted dictator (quite properly blacklisted, in fact) …

joemillis1959 (Tue 23rd July, 16:59): Obviously, Jose the blacklisted dictator Goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Tue 23rd July, 17:48): Jose the dictatorial happy goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Tue 23rd July, 18:09): Meanhile, Jose the dictatorial blacklisted Goldfish-Posner …

joemillis1959 Wed 24th July, 18:57): Looks like Jose the blacklisted dictator Goldfish …

joemillis1959 Thu 25th July, 12:16): Maybe if the JC blocks Jose the Happy dictatorial blacklisted dictator …

joemillis1959 (Thu 25th July, 13:00 & 18:59; Fri 26th July, 16:55 & 17:04): The blogger who goes by the name of Happy Goldfish is a cyber-reincarnation of a person who has already been twice barred here - under the names of Jose, Blacklisted Dictator and Anthony Posner, as well as perhaps others.

joemillis1959 (Thu 25th July, 15:55): Not even jose the racist blaclisted goldfish dictator.

joemillis1959 (Thu 25th July, 16:58 & 18:59): "Bringing along Anthony 'Jose the blacklisted happygoldfish dictator' Posner …

joemillis1959 (Thu 25th July, 16:58 & 18:59; Fri 26th July, 16:39): "Bringing along Anthony 'Jose the blacklisted happygoldfish dictator' Posner …

joemillis1959 (Mon 29th July, 18:56): … Jose the blacklisted dictatore goldfish …

joemillis1959 (Tue 30th July, 13:37): … happygoldfish, a pseudonym for the banned Jose and blacklisted dictator …

joemillis1959 (Tue 30th July, 15:06): Me thinks the multi-pseudonym happygoldfish blacklisted dictator Jose doth protesteth too mucheth

i have no connection with those, or with any other present or former bloggers on this site

joemillis1959: (Mon 25th March, 18:29) He may claim he's not, but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence.

uhh??

did any of the others know how to produce background colours, or red or blue type?

did any of the others preface every quote with a clickable link so that it could be checked?

did any of the others repeatedly link to their own outside blog about oranges ducks and arch-rabbis?

were any of the others goldfish? (you haven't even got the right species! )

oh … and did any of the others use smilies?

joe millis, please stop harrassing me, and propagating the lie that my behaviour has previously caused me to be banned

there are racists on this website who think there is nothing wrong with lying, so long as they are criticising israel, or criticising people who defend israel

they decide what they want to be true, and then say it anyway, in the absence of any evidence other than their own prejudice, and often contrary to the actual evidence

one reason why so few people defend israel on thejc.com … compared with other sites such as the guardian's "comment is free" … is the unchecked lying or bullying that they'll sooner or later be subjected to

joemillis1959: (Mon 25th March, 10:53) He may claim he's not, he may introduce all sorts of snazzy colourful backgrounds and daft graphics - any one with a modicum of HTML coding knowledge can do that (and Jose claimed to be a computer whizz kid) - but his modus operandi is far too similar for it to be a coincidence. Just ignore him.

some historians are motivated by a desire to present events in a manner consistent with their own beliefs even if that involves distortion and manipulation of evidence

joe millis is the author of an illustrated history of jerusalem

if his approach to evidence as a historian is as reliable as in his accusation against me, then his book may be an excellent buy as a work of fiction, or as a children's picture book, but cannot seriously be considered as a reliable research resource


happygoldfish

Tue, 07/30/2013 - 16:11

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joe millis, elected deputy for bromley reform synagogue, wants to accuse me of racism
he knows that he can't quote anything i've written to support this

so instead he quotes what someone else has written – under a pseudonym – and accuses me of being that person

he tells this lie not once but repeatedly, in a cyberbullying campaign to try to chase me off this website

he has decided what he wants to be true, and then says it anyway, in the absence of any evidence other than his own prejudice, and contrary to the actual evidence

he knows that he has no grounds for his lie, but he also knows that it is impossible for me to disprove it (because of the other person's pseudonym)

this is how the elected deputy for bromley reform synagogue pursues his baseless hatred


Harvey

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 09:16

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Despite threats of violence by the # BDS thugs
Eric Burdon arrives in Israel to give concert

http://hurryupharry.org/2013/07/31/defying-threats-eric-burdon-arrives-i...

# Eric rocks # BDS fail


Harvey

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 09:20

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From the independent

The Animals's Eric Burdon will perform in Israel as planned

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By MATILDA BATTERSBY
Wednesday 31 July 2013
Animals frontman Eric Burdon has denied reports that he is to withdraw from a planned concert in Israel following "threatening emails".
In a statement from his management today 71-year-old Mr Burdon said he had already arrived in Israel and that the concert would go ahead as planned.
"It was not my decision to cancel the show, it was my manager's, who as a result of lots of threating emails she received, was genuinely afraid for my life," he said.
"I'm not afraid to preform here and very happy to be back in Israel"
He continued: "Above all, it is important for me to convey a message that the past is not important, and the most important thing is and I came to Israel, as I wished to. It was important for me to play here and I'm concentrating all my energies towards the performance. We are going to give a great show to the Israelis."
The Animals frontman, whose hits include "House of the Rising Sun", and "San Franciscan Nights," will perform alongside local Israeli bands in Binyamina, in the north of the country.
Last week his management released a statement saying Mr Burdon would be withdrawing from the appearance: “We’ve been receiving mounting pressure, including numerous threatening emails, daily. The last thing I intend do is put Eric in jeopardy.”


Harvey

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 09:22

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# Threatening emails # threats to his life # BDS thugs


Rich Armbach

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 09:24

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I knew you were gonna be all excited Harv. Lets hope he is still able to stand up on stage unaided o))


Harvey

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 09:54

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Why's that ? . Are you expecting some of your mates to have a pop at him ?
I hope those emails have been passed on to the police
# BDS thugs


Ben F

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 10:01

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#dramaqueen


Harvey

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 15:58

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Fatah officials posting their happy photos with the Barca team on FB, puke
1:23pm - 5 Aug 13

Oh oh everyone duck . Ali Abuminah and friends about to hurl .
# BDS fail @ # BDS thugs


StevenKalka

Mon, 08/05/2013 - 16:41

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Knowing Eric Burdon, I'm sure that the original cancellation plans on his Israeli performance stemmed from safety concerns only. He's always had a strong, outspoken personality and he doesn't take guff from others. He certainly hasn't and wouldn't engage in phony moral grandstanding. The biggest beefs I've heard him voice are against the UK record industry and the personality conflicts he's had with other Animals members on their reunion tours.

His hit song "San Franciscan Nights" is on a very personal album of his, "Winds of Change" which I think is underrated. It includes a memorable cover of the Rolling Stones hit "Paint it Black". Even the liner notes from Eric are personal. The band lineup included Jewish violinist prodigy Johnny Weider.


Rich Armbach

Tue, 08/06/2013 - 09:08

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You should not be so mean about Fatah officials Harv. They are all that stands in the way of one big happy family tween the river and the sea which some say would mean the end of " the Jewish State "


Harvey

Tue, 08/06/2013 - 11:24

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That and the 48 UN mandate , a kick arse army , Arab propensity to rip each other apart and of course cheerleaders designated a cult by none other than former doyenne of the cause Stormin Norman Finklestein since reduced to Fink . Whatever happened to Poor hapless Frank Borat ( sic but not half as sick as Frank ) . Revolver , Siberia or a Tonyle re education week end .


Rich Armbach

Tue, 08/06/2013 - 12:33

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Nah Harv you dont get it. If Fatah got out of the way no army could stop it.

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