The Times They Are A- Changeing.


By jandrsimonson
February 19, 2011
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It is only a matter of time before the US smells the roses, comes out of denial of its true vital interests, and Israel loses the US auto veto protection. The only viable solution, ie the one state solution, will then come very quickly.

United States vetos anti Israeli settlement resolution.

Analysis

Barbara Plett
BBC UN correspondent
On paper this was a defeat for the Palestinians but they and representatives of other Arab nations seemed to be in a buoyant mood. They had held out some hope that America would abstain, but not much, so the veto was predictable.

The degree of support, on the other hand, was overwhelming: some 130 countries co-sponsored the resolution, and all the other members of the Security Council voted for it.

The result was strong endorsement of the Palestinian position on Israeli settlements - that they are illegal, and an obstacle to peace - which isolated Israel. It also isolated the United States.

No matter what reasons America gave for the veto (it insisted bringing the matter to the Security Council complicated chances for peace talks) or how fulsomely it criticised settlement building (as a folly and threat to peace) it appeared out of sync with the international consensus, and as Israel's only defender.

Given the ferment in the Arab world at the moment, this is not a good position for the US to be in.

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jandrsimonson

19 February, 2011 - 06:36

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On a slightly different note , how long is the JC going to tolerate this Yoni character ?

His endless stream of obscene abuse and vile invective , in gross contravention of the incitement to racial/religious hatred laws, has truly gone way beyond any kind of a joke.

On what is his seeming immunity and exemption from the constraints that the rest of us are subject to , grounded ?


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 07:30

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Don't complain, simonsam, your antisemitism is tolerated here.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 07:51

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Remember: support of a one-state solution is antisemitism (denying Jews the right to self-determination), according to EU working definition of antisemitism.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 08:05

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Anyway, I like the fact that Arabs, as usual, present their defeats as the grounds for future victories. They have been doing that for five centuries now, and I rather like the overall picture.

Basically, they have lost an empire (caliphate), they will soon lose the money (petrol) and their remaining power will then crumble to our feet, they mostly stayed with a Middle Ages mentality that did not contribute to the development of the humanity for centuries and kept its population in mental prisons. And as in May 1967, they are going to win. They will tell you when only afterwards.

Good luck, simonsam!


Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 08:22

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"in gross contravention of the incitement to racial/religious hatred laws"

Any idea what this idiot is screeching about this time?

A word of advice: learn to spell before you make an even bigger fool of yourself (if that were possible). Your rant above contains several laughable misspellings.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 08:45

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Any idea what this idiot is screeching about this time?

Basically, he says that one fourth of humanity has to be defended by some 'law' against a single person perceived as attacking them or their 'religion'.

You can see how strong is his faith in the final victory...

Said otherwise: "Mummy, mummy: the Jew struck us back, despite being totally outnumbered!"


Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 08:48

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Yes, the whining victim mentality in all its 'glory'.


amber

19 February, 2011 - 09:55

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simonson, is that the same Barbara Plett who wept when seeing Yassir Arafat, the modern pioneer of terrorism, leaving his terror compund for the last time?

That you feel the need to turn up on a Jewish website and relentlessly and irrationally attack Israel, come what may, says everything about you. Israel is a country that can do no right for you - ever. This isn't debate - it is an expression of bigotry. That the JC allows you to endlessly post your hatred is unbelievable - why should we have to fight antisemitism and bigotry on a Jewish website? Isn't there enough of it elsewhere?


amber

19 February, 2011 - 09:57

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simonson, the Un is a sick joke - over half its members are totalitarian dictatorships. This is the organization which put Saudi Arabia on the panel for women's rights, Libya in charge of human rights and Zimbabwe in charge of economic development. That you revere this institution demonstartes your moral degeneracy.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 09:58

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More about Plett:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Plett

Barbara Plett is a Canadian journalist who became the focus of a controversy when she admitted that the sight of a terminally ill Yasser Arafat had made her cry.
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Despite initially issuing a statement in support of Plett, the BBC director of news Helen Boaden later apologized for what she described as "an editorial misjudgment".

Non-professional statements should not be tolerated among journalists. At least not on the BBC.


amber

19 February, 2011 - 09:59

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simonson - learn how to spell "changing".

Why are anti-Semites so stupid?


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 10:00

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simonsam does not revere the UN, Amber, he reveres that the UN does exactly what the dictatorships wants it to do.


amber

19 February, 2011 - 10:01

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Jose - what's even more disturbing - when a group of BBC trainees saw the footage, and were asked whether it was professional, a good proportion thought there was nothing wrong with it.

The BBC is institutionally anti-Semitic.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 10:15

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Yeah, just as if Arafat was Gandhi!


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 10:58

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Arafat is the one who killed the Oslo Accords, totally stopped the peace process and reverted to terrorism, refusing to condemn the Nazi organisation HAMAS.


Jewish American...

19 February, 2011 - 14:23

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On a slightly different note , how long is the JC going to tolerate this Yoni character ?

That's a good question. Why does the JC tolerate such a disgrace to world Jewry?


Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 14:35

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You mean, I am a 'disgrace' because I stand up to antisemites, which spineless and stupid cowards like you never do?


Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 14:37

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"The BBC is institutionally anti-Semitic"

Absolutely. That is why the assorted cowardly antisemites here have been marking you down - which is already proof enough that you are 100% right.


amber

19 February, 2011 - 16:30

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Jewish American ( if that is what you are) - it is YOu who is the disgrace, supporting those who relentlessly engage in a hatefest against the Jews, and whose bigotry leads them to demonizing an entire nation and her people.

Shame on you.


zair

19 February, 2011 - 16:31

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'The degree of support, on the other hand, was overwhelming: some 130 countries co-sponsored the resolution, and all the other members of the Security Council voted for it.'

The UN is such a pain when it doesn't suit you.


amber

19 February, 2011 - 16:31

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This site is infested with bigots and anti-Semites. It is a disgrace.


amber

19 February, 2011 - 16:34

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No zair - the Un is ALWAYS a pain - it is a club of despots and tyrannies who sit in judgment of democracies and free societies. Saudi Arabia on women's rights council, Zimbabwe in charge of economic development, Libya (currently killing its own people because they dare to have what you want for yourself - free speech) - in charge of human rights.

What a sick farce - almost a sick as left wing loons like you defending the indefensible.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 17:57

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Half of the 130 are Muslim countries. The others are countries with a big Muslim minority that votes...

Numbers do not an argument win.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 18:05

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No comment from the Haters on my blog on the victims of the Arab dictatorships. They don't care about 'Palestinians' at all. They care to hate Israel and Jews.


Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 18:15

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"The UN is such a pain"

Sure is - a sick, antisemitic sewer.
No wonder sick antisemites like Zair love it.


Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 18:17

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"This site is infested with bigots and anti-Semites. It is a disgrace"

It's getting to be more and more like the UN: a majority of sick antisemites, fascists and other assorted scum, a minority of sane and enlightened people.


jose (not verified)

19 February, 2011 - 18:31

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Joe Millis

19 February, 2011 - 19:09

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Yoni1

19 February, 2011 - 20:21

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Ah, Moron Millis has arrived.

Here is proof that Peres and Netanyahu are the same person: both of them have Wikipedia pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu


Joe Millis

19 February, 2011 - 20:49

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On cue, here's Jose/Yoni1 who apart from everything else is about as welcome as a fart in a sealed room. Add it to the others, Jose/Yoni1


Anonymous

19 February, 2011 - 22:10

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