tractors face collective punishment update


By Allan Bloom
April 4, 2011
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The Palestinian farmers and their tractors were forcibly escorted to the inspection point by army vehicles. There they were kept under the surveillance of Israeli soldiers, police, and a private military company. Approximately forty tractor owners were questioned, and their ID’s and vehicle ownership were checked. They were made to stand next to their tractors, after which soldiers photographed and filmed the men with their vehicles. Everyone was informed that their tractors would be confiscated if they were unable to provide proof of ownership.

The forty farmers had to wait in the sun for up to 7 hours to find out the army’s decision on the fate of their farming vehicles, without being given any reason. During this slow and humiliating process the famers feared they would lose their tractors, which are vital to farm their land and generate income to support their families.

The military police finally said that a settler had had his tractor stolen, and at 3 pm four owners were ordered to drive their tractors into the military camp (next to Al Jiftlik), escorted by military police and police vehicles. The settler clearly only had a vague idea of what his tractor looked like, since the confiscated vehicles were of different makes, models and colours. When one of the farmers refused to do so he was arrested, but released several minutes later on the condition that he would drive his tractor to the camp, which he subsequently did. The four tractors were then confiscated and held inside the military camp.

Faris, one of the farmers who had to bring his tractor into the military camp, said his tractor cost him 40,000NIS; “all the money I collected from farming, I put into the tractor.” He also indicated that he will be unable to continue farming his land without his tractor.

Seems like a very thorough investigation. There is no doubting the no holds barred character of IDF investigations.

No wonder Goldstone was impressed.

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Advis3r

5 April, 2011 - 08:04

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The fact is there has been a spate of tractor thefts in the Jordan Valley. The army is checking all tractors and returning the stolen tractors to their rightful owners. Nothing to see here let's move on.


Joe Millis

5 April, 2011 - 08:10

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Did they check the tractors at the Israeli settlements or those in Israel proper? By the same method?


Watchful Iris

5 April, 2011 - 08:32

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Well the Jordan Valley is Israel's first line of defence. What a relief they weren't attacked by the Arabic hordes and Israel's very existence threatened, while the IDF were messing about with tractors all day.


Joe Millis

5 April, 2011 - 08:34

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And surely it's a police job. Sorry, I almost forgot, the West Bank isn't under Israeli civilian jurisdiction, it's under military occupation


Harvey

5 April, 2011 - 09:10

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I was driving in the west end yesterday
The police had set up check point round the back of the palace and were pulling in suspect vehicles
They were checking for ownership, tax, insurance,etc
No doubt they found a fair bit of dodgy gear as well
The one thing for sure is that none of the vehicles stopped were to be used to mow down and murder pedestrians
Perhaps you should compile a blog on the British police going about the same routine checks as their israeli counter parts


Joe Millis

5 April, 2011 - 09:24

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The point is harvey that these searches affected only one ethnic group in a military occupied area and were devised to create maximum frustration. When the Israelis start checking their own in the same way - like the Met in London - then I'll believe your excuse


Watchful Iris

5 April, 2011 - 09:26

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Well, I've heard the palace was under some kind of occupation but I didn't know it was by the BDF.


Jonathan Hoffman

5 April, 2011 - 10:00

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This is hearsay from an impostor who uses a false name "Allan Bloom", purely because "Bloom" is a common Jewish name.

The JC should not give space to such an impersonator.


Skovronek2

5 April, 2011 - 10:15

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Hearsay ? How much of any evidence is hearsay ? What is described above is very much the everyday experience of non Jews in the West Bank.

Get real. A Palestinian steals a tractor from a settler, uses it openly to farm his land, and turns it in for " inspection ". Hands up who believes that.

It is all part of the policy of intimidation and humiliation.


Harvey

5 April, 2011 - 11:27

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Joe

I had some time only hands so decided to watch he police in action for a while
The vast majority of vehicles being stopped were fairly old but in addition the drivers and occupants tended to be either black or Asian and mostly young
The police were not being racist
They were simply acting upon a established probability factor
It's known as sus and while fairly controversial brings results
In fact no different from the army action in israel


Advis3r

5 April, 2011 - 13:50

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Would This "story" get the same attention from Mr Bloom as being intimidating the Cantawarians(the ancient name for people from Kent)see here:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2008/kentpolice01.htm
Unfortunately no mention (hence the army presence) by the blogger that tractors have been stolen by Arabs in the past and used in terrorist attacks see here
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3562991,00.html
but of course why give any context when you can libel Israel so much more easily.


Joe Millis

5 April, 2011 - 13:57

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I didn't realise Kent was under military occupation. Must remember that next time I head down the A21. Whataboutery at its purest. It snows in Finland, dontcha know?
Meanwhile, I wonder if this lot nicked their vehicle, too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb63PdPweDc


Advis3r

5 April, 2011 - 14:08

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What has military occupation got to do with catching tractor thieves?


JonOtway

5 April, 2011 - 14:33

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Poor Harvey thinks that denial is a river in Egypt.

And his anecdote is so obviously made up. Disengenous and dishonest. " I had some time on my hands and went to watch the police in action."

Where does one go to watch the police in action, and see enough to evaluate their policy ? Was this one sunny afternoon in St Johns Wood ?

You could sit on any street for a whole day and be lucky to see one person stopped by the police.Jst how Much time did you have on your hands Harvey? And are you suggesting that a Palestinian is more probably a thief then an Israeli settler ? The Palestinians of the west bank will find that ironic in the highest degree.


JonOtway

5 April, 2011 - 14:41

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And as skovronek points out above, what was the probability that a Palestinian stole a tractor and used it openly to farm his land ?

And Advis3r is right. Catching tractor thieves has nothing to do with military occupation but we know this was not about catching tractor thieves don't we ?

What is happeninh on the west bank is well witnessed, well known and well evidenced.


Jewish American...

5 April, 2011 - 15:04

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Racial profiling is illegal in the US. Will our partner in democracy (cough) join us in ending global racism in practice as well as in theory?


Advis3r

5 April, 2011 - 15:10

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And are you suggesting that a Palestinian is more probably a thief then an Israeli settler ?
It is a fact see for example:-
http://www.eoef.org/uimages/File/The%20Relationship%20between%20Economic...
"The Palestinians of the west bank will find that ironic in the highest degree" - No it certainly would not be ironic in any degree because the "Palestinians" never "owned" the land on which Gilo or any other settlement situated on private Jewish or State land has been built?


Advis3r

5 April, 2011 - 15:31

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@Jewish American have you read this? http://aclu.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000698
it seems the jury is still out in the US on racial profiling which for your information is not what Israel uses it uses behavioural profiling see for example:-
http://www.hudson-ny.org/1088/behavioral-profiling-detect-bombers-not-bo....

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