Wikileaks shows international hypocrisy over Israel


By Miriam Shaviv
July 26, 2010
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So, courtesy of Wikileaks, we once again have evidence of the enormous number of civilian casualties killed by US/Nato forces in Afghanistan.

The details are not pretty:

Some of these casualties come from the controversial air strikes that have led to Afghan government protests, but a large number of previously unknown incidents also appear to be the result of troops shooting unarmed drivers or motorcyclists out of a determination to protect themselves from suicide bombers.

At least 195 civilians are admitted to have been killed and 174 wounded in total, but this is likely to be an underestimate as many disputed incidents are omitted from the daily snapshots reported by troops on the ground and then collated, sometimes erratically, by military intelligence analysts.

Bloody errors at civilians' expense, as recorded in the logs, include the day French troops strafed a bus full of children in 2008, wounding eight. A US patrol similarly machine-gunned a bus, wounding or killing 15 of its passengers, and in 2007 Polish troops mortared a village, killing a wedding party including a pregnant woman, in an apparent revenge attack.

Questionable shootings of civilians by UK troops also figure. The US compilers detail an unusual cluster of four British shootings in Kabul in the space of barely a month, in October/November 2007, culminating in the death of the son of an Afghan general. Of one shooting, they wrote: "Investigation controlled by the British. We are not able to get [sic] complete story."

A second cluster of similar shootings, all involving Royal Marine commandos in Helmand province, took place in a six-month period at the end of 2008, according to the log entries.

As I have stated here before, I believe that civilian casualties are part and parcel of any war and - whilst always tragic - are not necessarily evidence of neglect or of deliberate targeting of civilians (of course, sometimes it is). So unlike the Guardian, for example, I don't see all of this as evidence that the campaign is immoral.

But I can't help wondering how the "international community" would have reacted had Israel been accused of similar actions. Many people, at the moment, are focused on the question of whether the documents should have been leaked, entirely skirting the implications of what they actually say; the American administration is currently busy brushing off responsibility, emphasising that this was all under George W's watch. Because yes, this stuff has been going on for years with hardly anyone showing any concern at all; for all the Guardian's fury now, it has taken it years to work itself into this lather of righteous indignation. The numbers were there ages ago, if only they had wanted to see them.

Meanwhile, Israel is being put through investigation after investigation following Operation Cast Lead and the flotilla affair - forced to answer for every civilian killed under its watch. Funny that.

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Jon_i_Cohen

26 July, 2010 - 14:59

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Good points!
But, do we hear calls for an emergency session at the UN?
Who cares? no-one except The Guardian.

"Meanwhile, Israel is being put through investigation after investigation following Operation Cast Lead and the flotilla affair - forced to answer for every civilian killed under its watch. Funny that."

It's not funny - it is simply anti-semitism, nothing more nothing less - anyone who argues otherwise is simply naive.


Joshua18

26 July, 2010 - 16:21

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Excellent piece about this by the man who should be the editor of the Jewish Chronicle:

Leaks on mass civilian casualties in Afghanistan could form basis for Goldstone style prosecutions against US, Britain and other coalition countries by Robin Shepherd

http://www.robinshepherdonline.com/leaks-on-mass-civilian-casualties-in-...


Joshua18

26 July, 2010 - 16:22

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"it is simply anti-semitism"

It is certainly motivated for the most part by anti-Semitism.


amber

26 July, 2010 - 21:39

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The hypocrisy of the West and the UN is sickening.

I have been saying for years that no civilian casualties are reported in Afghanistan. It allows the Western governments to pontificate about Israel without showing what hypocrites they are!


clevenson

27 July, 2010 - 06:31

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As usual you shout about ani-semitism. No the reason the world cares about the fate of the Palestinians isn't because it loathes the Jews. No it is because Israel operates a blatant form of racism.

If one is lucky enough to be born Jewish you have the full backing of the Israeli state and all its advantages, born Palestinian all the disadvantages.

The world outside these pages, and the Guardian are arawe of this


happygoldfish

27 July, 2010 - 07:20

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clevenson, i suppose you're basing this on your blog headline (10 days ago) "Israel set to force all citizens to swear oath to Jewish state"?

you still have not admitted that this is a blatant lie, despite repeated requests to do so …

happygoldfish: clevenson, i see you've just logged-on, so …why did you reprint that blatant lie?, contradicted as it is by the first word of the actual article in the independent (or did you read no further than the headline? )

why is that some people think it's ok to spread lies … without any need to admit or apologise even when caught … so long as it's about israel?


clevenson

27 July, 2010 - 07:47

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why is that some people think it's ok to spread lies
but hg. this is exactly what Israel has always done isn't it. Been economical with the truth. e.g "there are no such people as the Palestinians"

There are thousands of examples of Israel rewriting history, this is much more serious than the wording of a newspaper article.


Jon_i_Cohen

27 July, 2010 - 07:59

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Thhe following comment was written by an Arab-American writer, Joseph Farrah :-
Let me state this plainly and clearly: The Jews in Israel took no one's land.

When Mark Twain visited the Holy Land in the 19th century, he was greatly disappointed. He didn't see any people. He referred to it as a vast wasteland. The land we now know as Israel was practically deserted.

By the beginning of the 20th century, that began to change. Jews from all over the world began to return to their ancestral homeland – the Promised Land Moses and Joshua had conquered millennia earlier, Christians and Jews believe, on the direct orders of God.

That's not to say there wasn't always a strong Jewish presence in the land – particularly in and around Jerusalem. In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. The source for that statistic? A journalist on assignment in the Middle East that year for the Tribune. His name was Karl Marx. Yes, that Karl Marx.

A travel guide to Palestine and Syria, published in 1906 by Karl Baedeker, illustrates the fact that, even when the Islamic Ottoman Empire ruled the region, the Muslim population in Jerusalem was minimal. The book estimates the total population of the city at 60,000, of whom 7,000 were Muslims, 13,000 were Christians and 40,000 were Jews.

"The number of Jews has greatly risen in the last few decades, in spite of the fact that they are forbidden to immigrate or to possess landed property," the book states.

Even though the Jews were persecuted, still they came to Jerusalem and represented the overwhelming majority of the population as early as 1906. And even though Muslims today claim Jerusalem as the third holiest site in Islam, when the city was under Islamic rule, they had little interest in it.

As the Jews came, drained the swamps and made the deserts bloom, something interesting began to happen. Arabs followed. I don't blame them. They had good reason to come. They came for jobs. They came for prosperity. They came for freedom. And they came in large numbers.

Winston Churchill observed in 1939: "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."

Then came 1948 and the great partition. The United Nations proposed the creation of two states in the region – one Jewish, one Arab. The Jews accepted it gratefully. The Arabs rejected it with a vengeance and declared war.

Arab leaders urged Arabs to leave the area so they would not be caught in the crossfire. They could return to their homes, they were told, after Israel was crushed and the Jews destroyed. It didn't work out that way. By most counts, several hundred thousand Arabs were displaced by this war – not by Israeli aggression, not by some Jewish real-estate grab, not by Israeli expansionism.

In fact, there are many historical records showing the Jews urged the Arabs to stay and live with them in peace. But, tragically, they chose to leave.

All these later, the sons and daughters and grandsons and granddaughters of those refugees are all-too-often still living in refugee camps – not because of Israeli intransigence, but because they are misused as a political tool of the Arab powers.

Those poor unfortunates could be settled in a week by the rich Arab oil states that control 99.9 percent of the Middle East landmass, but they are kept as virtual prisoners, filled with misplaced hatred for Jews and armed as suicide martyrs by the Arab power brokers.

This is the modern real history of the Arab-Israeli conflict. At no time did the Jews uproot Arab families from their homes. When there were title deeds to be purchased, they bought them at inflated prices. When there were not, they worked the land so they could have a place to live without the persecution they faced throughout the world.

It's a great big lie that the Israelis displaced anyone – one of a series of lies and myths that have the world on the verge of committing yet another great injustice to the Jews.

The following comment written by me:- to use clevensons quote "There are no such people as the Palestinians" - you are correct clevenson, this is the case, as the above comments clearly allude to.
Further, the concept of a "Palestinian" identity was dreamt up by that well-known and infamous Egyptian Yassir Arafat in 1964 with Abu Mazun, (the present Arab leader in Judea & Samaria), and their band of terrorist cohorts.
Palestinian identity really is that recent and all the historical evidence supports this fact.


Yvetta

27 July, 2010 - 10:47

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There's a book called "Zion before Zionism" by Arnold Blumberg - came out in the 1980s. It doesn't appear to have been politically motivated, being a straightforward historical narrative. It quotes from comtemporary documents such as letters from diplomatic consuls, who made the same points about the sparsity of the population of Eretz Yisrael.


Jon_i_Cohen

27 July, 2010 - 11:58

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Yvetta
Exactly, book after book, evidence and proof, to show that the area was sparsley populated right up until the early 1900's when Jews started to return and settle the land, Kibbutz Degania for example in 1909.
There were no Palestinians, all a myth dreamt up in 1964.
People have short and selctive memories and choose to ignore the evidence.
Keep on posting, you're doing a great job!!


amber

27 July, 2010 - 13:16

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clevenson, you're such a phony. Israel is the most puralistic and tolerant nation in the region. If you want to see racism, go to apartheid Saudi Arabia, a country which does not face the process of delegitimization which Israel does.

Shoots down your so-called argument in flames.


amber

27 July, 2010 - 13:17

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clevenson, do you know how ridiculous you sound when you claim to speak for the entire planet?

How very silly.


clevenson

27 July, 2010 - 20:09

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I think Amber that am in a better position than you are to gauge public opinion as i am often in Israel and Palestine. How many days have you ever spent in both places?


Advis3r

27 July, 2010 - 20:43

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Clevenson - obviously when you do visit my country you come with pre-conceived ideas other wise you could not in all honesty publish the rubbish you do. the concept of a "palestinian Nation" was a creation of nasser and Arafat. If such a people had existed why were they not mentioned in any UN Resolution prior to 1964 when Arafat created the PLO - even the landmark 1947 Partition Resolution or the famous Resolution 242 of 1967 makes no mention of them? So you see a nation has been "created" on the basis of a fable which people such as yourself perpetuate for your own good reasons.

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