Why I'm an ashamed Jew


By raycook
October 31, 2010
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Yep, you read right.

I've had to admit it.

I can't live a lie any longer.

I'm deeply, deeply ashamed.

Ashamed of being Jewish? No way. I'm very proud to be Jewish and a member of the Jewish people.

Ashamed of Israel? Wrong again. I'm proud of Israel's achievements. I worry about its policies, sometimes; I'm concerned, sometimes about some of its actions and those of some of its citizens, but I could say the same for Britain and I'm still proud to be British.

So why am I ashamed?

I'll tell you. I'm ashamed of Jews who say they are ashamed to be Jews or Jewish.

I don't hear Palestinians coming out to declare they are ashamed to be Palestinian and denounce suicide bombs or missiles.

I don't hear Arabs writing they are ashamed to be Arabs because of Al Qaeda or Sudan or Yemen.

I don't hear Muslims forming groups of shame because of what Sunni does to Shia, or 9/11, or 7/7, or Madrid, or Mumbai.

I don't know of any Ashamed Catholic groups forming because of the paedophilia apparently rife in Catholic clergy.

In fact I know of no other group of people who so often announce their ashamedness to be who they are as Jews do.

And you know what? It makes me ashamed. I'm an ashamed Jew who is ashamed of ashamed Jews. If that's a paradox, so be it.

And I'm not ashamed to declare my shame.

Shame on me!

I don't see why Arabs or Muslims or Palestinians or Brits or Americans or Chinese or anyone else should be ashamed of what they are because of the actions of a few.

If I'm ashamed to be a Jew because I don't like what Israel does that is a form of self-hating, it's bigotry - by golly, its anti-Semitic. If I hate all of a group because of the actions of some, then I am a bigot. And if I am the target of my own bigotry then I'm a pretty sick bigot.

On the Andrew Marr program this morning on BBC 1, the eponymous Scottish interviewer had the (Jewish) actress Miriam Margolyes in the studio reporting on a recent visit to Israel and the West Bank.

We see her approaching a young Palestinian woman and asking through an interpreter whether she can see where she lives. The woman, carrying a young child, takes her to a canvas tent.

Miriam is shocked and says 'no-one should have to live like this'.

I absolutely agree with her. No-one in the West Bank should be living in a tent. So why are they? Miriam believes it's because of the terrible Israelis who make her an 'ashamed Jew'.

Neither she nor Marr question why this woman lives like this. No-one asks why after 62 years a young woman whose grandparents left or were driven out of what is now Israel should be a refugee and have refugee status uniquely different from all other refugee groups in history.

Neither Margolyes or Marr wanted to mention or even wanted to entertain the idea that refugee camps, so-called, exist for one reason and one reason only: to deliberately perpetuate the victimhood of Palestinians and to preserve the idea, which Margolyes and other ashamed Jews have swallowed whole , that it is Israel who is responsible for these conditions.

Margolyes appears unaware that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians live comfortably on the West Bank in normal housing, She seems unaware that despite the billions of dollars poured into the Palestinian economy people are still allowed to live in tents and camps.

There is no need for it. Pakistanis are not living in tents three generations after their forbears fled India.

There are no refugee camps in Israel for the hundreds of thousands who were forced from their homes after 1948 from Egypt and Iraq and Syria and North Africa.

Marr asks 'Do you think being a Jew gives you a different authority, ability to talk about [the Palestinian question]?'

'The only authority I have is as a human being', Margolyes replies. So far, so good.

Then she says that it should not make a difference being Jewish or not Jewish to be able to comment on the situation but then says, somewhat in contradiction that she is 'embarrassed and ashamed' (that word again) because 'my "lot" is doing "it" to them'. She then says 'that's why I wanted to go there, to see for myself'. Fine. But it appears she had already made up her mind that 'her lot' where doing 'it' to 'them'.

Marr asks for her reaction and she then puts on a faux Arab accent and says that some said 'why do you come? You are a Jew. We hate you.' And then in her own voice 'And I totally understood why'.Yet, she doesn't understand why at all.

She doesn't understand that this hatred predates the Jewish state. She doesn't understand the daily diet of anti-Semitism that is fed to Palestinians in schools, newspapers and on TV.

Marr then asks a question which links the Holocaust to what he clearly believes is a given Israeli/Jewish paranoia.

He asks that, given Margolyes and her generation know what it's like growing up in the shadow of the Holocaust, does she not realise that Israelis feel hemmed in and beleaguered by Iran, suicide bombs and missiles.

She admits her sympathy. She knows what anti-Semitism is. But 'treating people the way the Israelis are treating the Palestinians is not making things better'. In other words, the blame for the situation is all on the Israeli side.

An then, lo and behold, the old ignorant trope comes out. 'What people forget over there is that the Palestinians were not responsible for the Holocaust.'

Arghhh! I'm so ashamed. What the hell has the Holocaust got to do with the situation? Is she suggesting that Israel exists because of Holocaust guilt? Is she suggesting that the Palestinians are paying for the crimes of Europeans?

If so, she is ignorant of her own people's history.

'They were not the enemy at that time', she says. But THEY WERE! The Mufti of Jerusalem was a friend of Hitler and organised Muslim Nazi brigades in Yugoslavia. He assured Hitler that he would solve the Jewish Question in Palestine.

Hamas and the PLO are the ideological progeny of the Muslim Brotherhood and its anti-Semitic policies.

Margolyes and other ashamed Jews need to educate themselves. I am sick of being ashamed of them.

What is she saying now? Oh yes, the Israelis should understand and accept that they owe reparation to the Palestinians just like the Jews expect it from the Germans.

So she, perhaps unwittingly, makes a moral equivalence between the way Jews were treated in the Holocaust and the way Palestinians, who have been hell-bent on another Holocaust for 100 years and certainly 60, have been treated by the Israelis.

Who attacked Israel in 1967? Why was the PLO formed in 1964 before there was any 'Occupation'?

The Israelis are behaving ''so cruelly'. Yes, sometimes all those with power over others behave cruelly. Maybe she should understand why Israelis might do so to Palestinians who want to kill them, and blow up their children on buses and in their beds. Why can she only see one side to this conflict?

Even Marr has to remind her about suicide attacks and rockets.

And then we get the real answer to Margolyes ashamedness. She is not a two-state solutionist.

She wants 'those people to be back in their own villages, which is what they want.'

How ignorant is this. They just want to go back to their villages. But their villages are Haifa and Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and Eilat and Beersheva. Margolyes is clearly advocating the end of the Jewish state as a deluded one-stater who believes the Palestinians, who she admits hate the Jews, just want to go back peacefully to their homes.

How often do we see people in the media like Miriam Margolyes, Jews and non-Jews, well-meaning, decent people who just do not understand. They live in their cosy left-wing bubbles dreaming of world peace where all will be luvvies.

Sorry Miriam. You are a very nice woman and a wonderful actress, but you are a deluded Jew. Go read some history. Go read the PLO charter and the Hamas charter.

Don't pose as a woman of peace when you clearly want a second Holocaust - because if you don't, then you need to wake up out of your deluded lefty dreams, you and all the ashamed Jews.

Until you do so, I will continue to be an ashamed of ashamed Jews Jew.

(first posted at http://www.raymondcook.net/blog/index.php/2010/10/31/why-im-an-ashamed-j... )

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Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 03:52

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Ray,

(I met Miraim when she came to South Africa. She was pleasant and friendly.)

I don't believe that these Jews who attack Israel are "ashamed Jews". And it is important not to fall for their self-diagnosis.

I believe that the vast majority of them are shamelessly jumping on an anti-Israel bandwagon to further their careers and to place themselves in a favourable position as the new PC Islamist milieu evolves. They are "cynical Jews". They recognize how society is changing and they are adapting to it. They know what non-Jews (many who are anti-zionist and anti-semitic) want to hear.

My response to such people is to expose their appalling double standards. Why are they not screaming from the roof tops about the appalling human rights abuses in Iran? Why do they not care about the way that women have been turned into second class citizens (and worse) throghout the Islamic world? Why do they not campaign to expose the fact that The UNHRC has been exploited by regimes who have the worst human rights records in the world? Surely any rational person who was concerned about the fate of their fellow man would do so?

So you don't have to feel ashamed.

You should instead feel angry.


Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 05:08

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They are also self-righteous Jews (many are messianic) and try to portray themselves as more moral and caring. I find this to be paticularly nauseating.

I do not believe that is Israel is beyond criticism. She would have not survived so long if she had always been "nice". But their refusal to see the context, the broader picture, leaves me to conclude that they must have a narrow ulterior motive.

So they are actually the opposite to ashamed Jews. They are Jews who are determined to feel good about themselves, and they are totally unconcerned whether their "moral" motivation causes damage.


stephenb

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 07:13

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Are these ashamed jews the same as SHJ's or another species entirely ?


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 07:52

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An excellent article, which in two sentences hits the nail exactly on the head:
"Go read some history. Go read the PLO charter and the Hamas charter."

In other words, 1) who was originally responsible for perpetuation of the refugees plight? and 2) who are the people responsible today for this situation?

During the seventies and eighties I drove thru Jericho many times, beyond which one encounters the large, spreading refugee camp. Over many years the only change made there was addition of more and more hovels, as the popluation grew. This camp was under Jordanian rule during the uears 1948-1967, during which time Hussein - whom I see as a benign Arab king - did nothing to alleviate the problem.

And the third element, relevant to Ms. Margoyles, is the question of Jewish education, which at least in my time in the UK was sadly lacking - our teachers themselves lacked a good knowledge of Judaism.

And a final item, not easy to contend with, is assimilation: if you live in any country outside of Israel, it is only natural to make every effort 'to fit in and not to stand out'. It takes as much knowledge as guts and self-assurance, to withstand the growing tide of anti-Israeli feeling in the UK today.

In Ms. Margoyles, not all of these qualities are present in the quantities required for Jewish survival.


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 07:56

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Anthony,
"I do not believe that is Israel is beyond criticism. She would have not survived so long if she had always been "nice". "

- that's a nice point! It's a pity you didn't stop there ...


Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:01

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I certainly do not believe that they are ashamed Jews. I think that everybody has jumped on the Jacobson band-wagon, because they are so delighted that such a talented Jewish writer has won the Booker prize.


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:18

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The Booker prize is nothing new.

In a survey an American Jew made during the 'nineties of the percentage of Jewish Nobel Prize winners, from its inception until 1990, he came up with the well-documented figure of Jews being 23% of all Nobel Prize Laureates. That, he said, is 64 times greater than our rperesentation in the world's population!

However, getting back to the subject of Jewish education, the UK has not produced one great Jew in a thousand years!


Yvetta

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:39

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Absolutely fabulous!


Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:52

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"However, getting back to the subject of Jewish education, the UK has not produced one great Jew in a thousand years!" (Reiss)

The current Chief Rabbi?


DLeigh-Ellis

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 08:56

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Can you tell me exactly who does qualify as a great Jew in your book Avi? After Avraham Reiss of course.....


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:14

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DLeigh-Ellis, if that is your sole contribution, you serve as proof of everything I have said. I imagine the essence was above your head.


DLeigh-Ellis

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:21

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I can assure you it was pretty far below...

Thank you for a truly profound answer Avi, as per usual.


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:23

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Anthony,
the current Chief Rabbi is a Judaic nonentity. Were he to enter a Yeshiva, he wouldn't be able to hold his own with 2nd and 3rd year students, for the simple reason that he 'went native', devoting his time to British culture, as witnessed by the books he has published. There's nothing wrong with that in itself,but, it was at the expense of study of the Tamud, Rishonim, Achronim and Responsae in which a rabbi must be well-versed. Possibly, the late Rabbi Herzog might qualify, and Kopul Rosen would also be in the running. But there's no earth-shaking material here at all.

Sadly, DLeigh-Elvis is not in the running.


DLeigh-Ellis

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:30

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Never claimed to be at all...

Just pointing out how happy you are to tout an obvious untruth, which given your last post even you seem to acknowledge to be exaggerated.


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:47

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Your contributions here are minor, maybe once every 8 weeks, your last post was about some beer festival. Maybe you should stick to that familiar ground.


Jon_i_Cohen

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 09:56

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Very good article Ray, perhaps some of the SHJ who insist on blogging on this site will read it carefully.
(I'm probably expecting a bit too much there!)


telegramsam

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:20

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DLE, just feel sorry for Avraham. He has suffered traumatic experiences from his youth till now -- molestation, being made to look a fool by Anthony etc -- so we really have to forgive him. However, that does not absolve him of seeking help when he is obviously trying to destroy this blog. He thinks he is Ozymandias,

My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

when he's more like Ozzy Osbourne


Yvetta

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:24

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But surely the point of Shelley's poem is that Ozymandias's works are kaput - by contrast, Avraham's are very much alive and capable of a well-deserved kick in your tuches, matey ...


telegramsam

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:32

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No, Yvetta. He is like Ozymandias, believing that he is the king of kings, yet ultimately his works are like dust. As for tuchesim/ot - mine or others -- I think he was fingered (oops, sorry, Freudian) over his childhood problems years ago. So paint me not concerned in the slightest. He really ought to get himself sorted out. It's not good to carry that kind of burden. Just look at all the abuse he heaps on all and sundry here.


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:35

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Ozymandias is the pseudonym of a Nazi active on the web, from whom moshetzarfati2 plagiarized a few sentences and was caught in the act (it was fully documented on my blog); tscum, his alter-ego, can't release himself from the spell. False names is everything ... what power they afford!


Yvetta

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:54

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To continue the rhymester theme, when he's good he's very very good ...


telegramsam

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:58

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I really do not know what to what Avraham is referring. I was referring to the Shelley poem. Was Shelley an anti-Semite, too?
This Moshe person is probably another one of his fantasies or someone -- if he exists at all - who also did him up like a kipper. Avraham really ought to seek help. It keeps happening to him.


Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:36

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"The current Chief Rabbi is a Judaic nonentity. Were he to enter a Yeshiva, he wouldn't be able to hold his own with 2nd and 3rd year students, for the simple reason that he 'went native', devoting his time to British culture, as witnessed by the books he has published." ( Avraham Reiss)

Well at least that has been cleared up! So few people are willing to put the Chief Rabbi in his place. Finally, somebody on this blog, in Jerusalem, has been prepared to do so.

Of course, one might have a myriad of different views about Reiss' "judgement". But once again, I will allow readers to draw their own conclusions.


telegramsam

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:46

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Just wondering, Anthony and Avraham, how many acclaimed books on Judaism either of you have written?
I'm no fan of Lord Sacks, he was very nasty to Masorti and Reform Judaism and spouted some horrible sinaat chinam about the late, great Rabbi Hugo Gryn when he thought it would buy him kavod (respect) from the ultras, but he has surely surpassed both of you two when it comes to knowledge.


Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:55

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tsam,

I think that you have lost the plot.

I have never given the impression that I am knowledgeable about religious matters, and that is precisely why I defer to Reiss' "judgement".


Yvetta

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 13:01

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Moshe also liked poetry - he quoted Burns to me on at least one occasion ...


telegramsam

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 13:08

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Many people like poetry, Yvetta. That's why there are so many poets.


raycook

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 14:12

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Lord bless thy Chosen in this place,
For here thou has a chosen race:
But God, confound their stubborn face,
And blast their name,
Wha bring thy rulers to disgrace
And open shame

Holy Willie's Prayer, Robert Burns


Avraham Reiss

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 14:20

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Anthony,
"I have never given the impression that I am knowledgeable about religious matters, and that is precisely why I defer to Reiss' "judgement"."

Considering the fact that I devoted a number of years exclusively to the study of Judaism, and since then have never stopped learning as is every Jew so obliged, I have the knowledge to express valid opinions on many matters of Judaism. And when some knowledge is lacking, I know where to go and find it, and when I don't find it, I have friends who are far greater authorities than I, who can assist.

I can listen to a man for a few minutes and know what standard of learning he has reached. I don't express opinions on matters that are not reasonably clear to me.

tscum does, and with each utterance his ignorance becomes clearer and louder. And why doesn't he use his name? Of what is he (probably justifiably) ashamed?

He's been told he doesn't undertstand the Middle East, I'm telling him that religion-wise he is a boor - but he'll keep on anyway. The anti-Israeli flame burns strong within him.


Anthony Posner

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 14:27

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Avraham,

That is precisely why I defer to you on religious matters.

On other matters I, of course, take what you write with a pinch of salt.


telegramsam

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 14:31

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Avraham, you and your Orthodox friends have no monopoly on Judaism. You are a bor and am ha'aretz compared with Sacks. It's probably one of those jealousy things -- you envy his knowledge so you seek to denigrate, just like you envy the fact that some people who are much cleverer than you were able to play you and do you up like a kipper. I suppose it played to your deepest fears and just added to your obvious childhood traumas.


mattpryor

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 18:53

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Thanks Ray, I enjoyed reading.


Dan Judelson

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 19:12

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Ray Cook wrote:

Hamas and Hizbollah and the PLO are all allied to the Muslim Brotherhood/em>

Leaving aside whether the Muslim Brotherhood is the all encompassing entity Ray's sentence suggests it is, surely it stretches the truth to put the bitterly oppposed - murderously so - PLO and Hamas in the same camp in this way?


Dan Judelson

Mon, 11/01/2010 - 19:12

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Damn, I'mma gonna get them html tags right one day! I hope.


raycook

Tue, 11/02/2010 - 00:39

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Dan, they're in the same camp - they all hate Jews.

Yes, the MB linkage could have been better written. Maybe Jew-hating genocidal murderers would have put it more exactly.


raycook

Tue, 11/02/2010 - 08:29

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I have altred the text and removed Hizbollah from the MB linkage


DLeigh-Ellis

Tue, 11/02/2010 - 08:36

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'some beer festival,' yeah you used that before....

Actually it was about ghettoplotz as you well know.

Avi R - King of misrepresentation - Lord of the gutterpress!

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