Which Israel is Hamas supposed to recognise?


By tomeisner2
June 1, 2010
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Israel always maintains that Hamas should recognise its existence. But surely the question is which Israel. Do they mean Israel pre 1967 without the west bank? Or do they mean greater Israel with all the stolen land right up to the river Jordan?
Why should Israel in any form be recognised without this country paying any compensation to all the families they evicted in 1947-48?

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Akiva

1 June, 2010 - 09:03

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Israel doesn't "maintain" anything of a terrorist organisation seeking to make the region Judenrein. Your attempt to be witty while showing you are well informed on the Middle East has failed yet again.


Joshua18

1 June, 2010 - 09:03

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"Why should Israel in any form be recognised without this country paying any compensation to all the families they evicted in 1947-48?"

Much of Europe is built on property stolen from the millions of Jews Europeans helped murder. Do you agree then that international recognition of nations such as Holland, Norway, France, Poland and Lithuania should be withdrawn? How about the many Arab nations that expelled hundreds of thousands of Jews and stole all their property? How about withdrawing recognition of Britain? After all, she illegally occupies part of Argentina, Ireland and Spain.

"Anti-Zionist Jew calls for international recognition of Britain, Egypt and Poland to be revoked" would make a really nifty headline. You should go for it.

I will leave it up to others to deal with your other lies.


tomeisner2

1 June, 2010 - 09:22

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Much of Europe is built on property stolen from the millions of Jews Europeans helped murder.

Germany has quite rightly paid billions to Jewish families in compensation for the Holocaust. Not wishing to compare the two of course but Israel doesn't even admit that they ever threw the Palestinians out. They just lie as usual and that is why the world hates Israel.


tomeisner2

1 June, 2010 - 10:00

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Israel doesn't "maintain" anything of a terrorist organisation seeking to make the region Judenrein.

Israel does maintain a permanent terrorist force. It is called the IDF who together with the armed settlers are attempting to make Jerusalem the undivided city just for the Jews. I have seen the settler vigilantes carrying pistols in the via Dolorosa.


Akiva

1 June, 2010 - 10:57

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Tom you are brilliant, truely brilliant. Jerusalem IS undivided, but Jews, Muslims, Christians and much more besides all reside therein as equal citizens in all parts of the city (except those you want Judenrein). Compare that to when half of it was under Jordanian rule...

I don't even know why we reply to your uninformed drivel. You are clearly an arab troll getting jollies out of your constant anti-semitic diatribe and the lack of proper moderation on the JC.


Jon_i_Cohen

1 June, 2010 - 11:09

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tomesiner2
Once again one of the resident self-hating apologists for Hamas terrorism blogging on the Jewish Chronicle web site.
Why do they do it?
Is there some perverse kick you get out of it?
I am happy to refer you to a very good Psychiatrist if you care to e-mail me.
For your benefit:-
Israel will enter into negotiations with Palestinians that are willing to co-exist and compromise, Israel will not enter into any discussions with a terrorist group who's avowed aim is the destruction of the State of Israel and is nothing more that a proxy enclave for it's paymasters-Iran.


tomeisner2

1 June, 2010 - 11:54

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Jon Israel is a terrorist state. The entire world knows this now. Israel is an embarrassment to the Jewish people.


Akiva

1 June, 2010 - 12:30

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Jon Tom is a terrorist supporter. The entire JC knows this now. Jon would be an embaressment to the Jewish people, if he was Jewish.


gold.sarah

1 June, 2010 - 12:47

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Jon Cohen:

Israel will enter into negotiations with Palestinians that are willing to co-exist and compromise, Israel will not enter into any discussions with a terrorist group who's avowed aim is the destruction of the State of Israel and is nothing more that a proxy enclave for it's paymasters-Iran

So why does Israel continue to build illegal settlements on occupied West Bank?

No Hamas in West Bank after all.


Akiva

1 June, 2010 - 12:50

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Oh didn't you hear? There's a Freeze on building for Jews in Judea/Samaria (and has been for some time, despite how racist it is). I guess you were too busy in your lashon hara against the IDF to notice.


tomeisner2

1 June, 2010 - 17:32

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Akiva Obviously you haven't been to the West Bank recently, and please stop calling that fairy tale lie name Judea/Samania because that is another Israel lie.
When I was there 2 months ago I saw lots of building work going on.So stop believing the lies of Israel-the first and most important being that they bought the land in 1947-48. LIES. And stop saying I am not Jewish please because I am.


Akiva

1 June, 2010 - 17:41

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"please stop calling that fairy tale lie name Judea/Samania because that is another Israel lie."

Oops, Tom you're showing your Islam!

Judea/Samaria are historic facts. "West Bank" is both incorrect (as it refers to an area which is not all the west bank of Jordan) and is Johnny Come Lately to the Middle East.

"When I was there 2 months ago I saw lots of building work going on."

Well that's it settled then. This clearly unreliable and biased account is far more trustworthy than the various independent monitors and Israeli supreme court who say the contrary.

"And stop saying I am not Jewish please because I am."

What Shul do you go to, Tom?

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