Was the naval operation "poorly conceived, incompetently executed and entirely counter-productive" ?


By Blacklisted Dictator
June 6, 2010
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Miriam Shaviv agrees with 'The Times' that it was "poorly conceived, incompetently executed and entirely counter-productive", although she does NOT outline what she would have done, if she had been in charge. She writes: "I agree that it was botched, as is clear from my post."

Perhaps she is keeping that information to herself, just in case she is asked to organize Israel's response next time round?

But if she is just working as a journalist on The JC, my question to her, and everybody else is "What should Israel have done?"

I particularly would like to hear the views of anybody with military/naval experience. If you have had to board a similar boat, please get in touch and tell us where Israel went wrong.

Of course, Miriam Shaviv's allegation is extremely damaging to Israel. It implies that Israel's military leadership is incompetent and lends succour to those who are determined to undermine the state.

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Blacklisted Dictator

6 June, 2010 - 08:06

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I, unfortunately, haven't had this sort of naval experience. I did go on a school cruise to West Africa once, but was not instructed to board other ships.


Blacklisted Dictator

6 June, 2010 - 08:42

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Miriam,
If you do not know the answer to my question, you can always phone a friend.


Blacklisted Dictator

6 June, 2010 - 09:44

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Readers of this blog might want to ask themselves the reasons why a journalist like Miriam Shaviv would make such an allegation, assuming that she is unable or unwilling to answer the question that I have posed.


Yvetta

6 June, 2010 - 09:50

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'Guns may have been thrown overboard'
www.jpost.com
Gun-sights, cartridges and coded plans found on 'Marmara.


Blacklisted Dictator

6 June, 2010 - 14:56

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New York Times (June 4th)

Mr. Netanyahu was sleeping in the government guesthouse in Ottawa early Monday when he was awakened with news of the raid.

His aides joined him at 3 a.m. to discuss how to save the crucial Obama meeting. In Washington, Mr. Netanyahu was also due to meet the Turkish foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, in a bid to steady that relationship as well.

But the crisis deepened, and Mr. Netanyahu flew home, while Mr. Davutoglu seethed over the raid. He flew to New York to push for a strong condemnation of Israel in the United Nations Security Council, but was thwarted by the United States, which watered down the language. By the time he reached Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s office on Tuesday morning, Turkey was in danger of breaking off diplomatic relations with Israel.

“We’ve had bad times with Russia, we’ve had bad times with Greece, but no state in Turkey’s history has ever killed our citizens with their army intentionally,” said a Turkish official who asked not to be named because of diplomatic protocol.

According to the Turkish official, Mrs. Clinton asked how the United States could help, and Mr. Davutoglu demanded the immediate and unconditional release of all the activists, most of whom were then still in Israeli custody. Several hours later, Israel announced just that, and Turkey sent six planes to Tel Aviv, declining Israel’s offer to send the activists back. A Turkish doctor was also sent to monitor the wounded.

“You just killed our people, how can I trust you?” Mr. Davutoglu asked Mr. Barak by phone, according to the Turkish official.

In Istanbul, the activists had come home and Dr. Coskun was remembering the raid. He was bitter that commandos had not let him help a bleeding man, instead delivering occasional kicks, he said, and forcing the passengers to lie face down on the deck, handcuffed, for hours.

He was also angry at the young men who fought the commandos. He rebuked one of them for bragging about having beaten an Israeli.

“I told him, just because you wanted to flex your muscles and drag three soldiers down, nine people ended up dead.”

But most of all he was stunned that the Israelis had used their guns on the activists.

“We expected them to come on board the ship, and to take us hostage, but we never thought they would use live bullets to do it,” he said.

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