Unspeak

You are an apologist for terror

60 years? Where do you get 60 years from?

An attack on an armed soldier isn't terror. An attack on unarmed civilians is.
But gold.sarah, it's 43 years of occupation.

A right to resist the occupation with murder? And so it goes on and on.

Let's hypothesise: perhaps some soldiers currently serving in the IDF lost their relatives and friends in a terror attack on a bus in Tel Aviv or a cafe in Jerusalem. Maybe one of those soldiers buried the hand of a sibling because that's all that remained of the body after the explosion. Or maybe the soldier lost a parent and a sibling in the attack, since that happened on numerous occasions.

Why don't you write instead about the brave Israeli and Palestinian individuals who belong to movements such as the bereaved families' circle? Despite their mutual terrible grief and pain, they are reaching out to one another, trying to put an end to all this misery.

The shrill postings on this site don't help anyone. Neither side has a monopoly on pain.

Marion, most if not all fights against foreign occupation end up with members of the occupying forces being killed. Just look at what the Haganah, Etzel and Lechi did. Or the Mau Mau.

Johnny,

It's clear you've been brainwashed by the media 'terror', 'war on terror' - these are terms dubbed by 'George Bush' - not a very intelligent (or nice) man in my estimation, and looking at how America ousted him they didn't like him too much either.

A little education for you.

The ANC were dubbed terrorists - but later were seen to be right in their cause - remember a guy called Nelson Mandela? (he was part of that organisation, who incidentally fought against apartheid, that for the record was fully supported by jewish settlers there).

There's this country out there called USA (have you heard of them?) - well the militia that fought and (with the help of France) defeated the English were once dubbed terrorists (these same 'so called' terrorists formed the new country called USA). Now when they in turn call other people terrorists do you see any conflicting interests there?

'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter'.

The media would have some people believe that if you have a tank or a war plane carrying a flag of a country on it - that it is a legitimate way to kill people - and all legal and good.
However if you don't have the resources to buy such things, and instead use rifles or small bombs (as for example vietnam had to, to defend themselves) - then that is terrorism.
Well if you buy that, then you're a bigger fool than I thought.

So, gold.sarah - or Lauren Booth, or whichever trendy left, terror loving apologist you are ; -

As reported:- A Palestinian Authority policeman murdered an IDF soldier Wednesday at the Tapuach Junction in northern Samaria.

Take a terrorist, (sorry Palestinian), give him a uniform, give him a weapon and call him a Policeman - and then wait for the inevitable to happen.
This is no isolated case, it has happened time and time again - the Arabs are not interested in peace, they just bide their time; now we have another grieving Israeli family.

"gold.sarah" (pwetendy Jew?):
"The Palestinians, who have lived under occupation for sixty years, have the right to resist the occupation."
The State of Israel was founded 60 years ago - well, 61 actually. The disputed/occupied territories, in Israeli hands as a result of victory in war, date from 1967. Do the maths, gal.
Your figure is instructive; it reveals that you don't believe in Israel's right to exist.

I wonder what gold.sarah would have to say about B'Tselem's statistics that over 600 Palestinians have been murdered by Palestinians in the last 8 years or so.

Don't feed the troll!

Other 'terror' organisations:

ANC - now in government in S. Africa.

IRA - joint power sharing in N. Ireland.

Maquis - aka French resistance

All Partisan groups in WW2 were terrorist groups, killing soldiers by any means at their disposal.

The Norwegian, Dutch, French, Russian, Yugoslav Partisan groups, like the Palestinians, have one thing in common; they were under occupation.

More terror groups

White Rose - anti Nazi student group in Germany

The fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto were also terrorists.

And then, as mentioned, there were all the Jewish terrorist organisations . . . . .

'600 Palestinians have been murdered by the Palestinians in the last 8 years'

1400 Palestinians, including 300 children, were murderd by Israelis in less than three weeks!

What did the world have to say about that?

The world produced the Goldstone Report i believe. Now, what do you have to say about 600 dead Palestinians slaughtered by their own people?

gold.sarah.

Well look on the bright side America got to showcase some of their arms, and make a nice little earner on it ;-)

There is no such people as the "palestinians".

Until 1967 the Judea/Smaria are Arab residents were Jordanian citizens. And the Gaza population were Egyptian.

Golda Meir refused to recognize the term 'palestinian', quite rightly so.

"the soldier was on occupied territory and a member of an occupying army" (sic).

- that's your opinion. Mine is that he was on soil of the Land of Israel. Currently, your opinion is air, and mine is thereality. I hope it pains you greatly, Ms. "Humanist".

There may not have been such a people as the Palestinians before the mid-20th century, - when the early western consuls went there in the 19th century they found only a sparse population of mainly agriculturalists - but I'm not so unrealistic or so rightwing as to deny their nationalistic identity now.
I believe they should have their own state, and that the path to peace lies in cultivating the moderate elements on both sides.
At the same time, I'm aware that Islamicist elements, many puppeteered by Iran, will not be satisfied until "the Zionist entity" completely disappears.
Krushchev once said that if people's bellies are full they lose their propensity to revolution. But he was reckoning without extreme "religious" ideology into the equation, I suppose,