Universal Juristiction


By gold.sarah
February 2, 2010
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Apparently, according to the JC, Jack Straw is acting is if 'he is the MCB's place man in Government'
Would it be preferable if he were the JC's 'place man in government?'

Why should the government change the laws of universl juristiction? Just because, rightly, Israeli politicians are falling within its scope? To change the law is to do the bidding of a foreign interest and would be 'deeply political' - exactly what the JC accuses Mr Straw's behaviour of being.

Univeral juristiction will remain in place and those who do not wish to fall under its spoltlight should respect international law.

In order for a magistrate to issue an arrest warrant he/she must be convinced of the evidence presented before them. In the case of Livni the evidence was sufficient for an independent magistrate to issue a warrant. Quite why this makes them 'unsuitable' isn't explained. Would the magistrate be 'suitable' if they did the bidding of the JC or if they were controlled by the state?

Those who presented the evidence against Livni were not from the MCB. Some were from Jewish organisations, some from christian organisations and some secular. The outrage against the massacre and siege in Gaza is not sectarian. It is not an outrage felt by Muslims only. To claim that somehow Mr Straw is doing the bidding of the MCB and that therefore the MCB is somehow 'thwarting' attempts to change the law, ignores the work of the thousands of others that support justice for Palestinians.

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Jonathan Hoffman

2 February, 2010 - 15:24

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http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/EndArrestsNow/

If you want to see the Universal Jurisdiction law used only against genuine war criminals - and not vexaciously and spuriously against Israelis who have served in the IDF - then sign my petition to the Prime Minister now.

All UK residents can sign (any nationality, any age provided they have their own email address) plus UK citizens abroad.

It already has more then 500 signatures.

moshetzarfati2

2 February, 2010 - 15:29

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Are you saying, Jonathan, that Israelis who serve in the IDF cannot be genuine war criminals?

gold.sarah

2 February, 2010 - 15:34

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Alternatively go onto Amnesty International's website and sign their petition demanding that Universal Juristiction applies to all war criminals - Israeli or otherwise.

It has thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of signators from around the world.

Yvetta

2 February, 2010 - 16:19

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I went to the Amnesty site but couldn't see it - the JfJfP are in full hype re it, predictably. I found a rather interesting quotation about JfJfP by a professor:
“Your deep concern for Jewish principles of justice and compassion do not lead you to step forward as Jews in order to condemn the genocide in Darfur, the blood-letting in the Congo, the massacres in Chechnya or any other cases of massive human-rights violation far surpassing the brutality of Israel’s occupation of the Palestinians.”

gold.sarah

2 February, 2010 - 16:36

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Oh that's alright then. As there is bloodletting in the Congo, the bulldozings, the beatings, the extra judicial killings, the administrative detention, the sonic booms, the massacres in Gaza, the apartheid roads and settlements, the destruction of the olive groves, the shooting dead of children, the refusal to permit the ill to travel to hospital, the thousands and thousands of dead Palestinians don't matter.

moshetzarfati2

2 February, 2010 - 16:40

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Perhaps, Yvetta, we don't step forward as Jews in order to condemn the genocide in Darfur, the blood-letting in the Congo, the massacres in Chechnya (although we do) or any other cases of massive human-rights violation far surpassing the brutality of Israel’s occupation of the Palestinians -- because these are not being done by the state of the Jewish people in the name of the Jewish people.

richmillett

2 February, 2010 - 17:03

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Yes, these people who claim so much to "care" for the Palestinians are never to be found at the events where Jews, Muslims, Palestinians and Israelis come together to discuss peace. I never see them at any other events where other people really are being oppressed (as opposed to the Palestinians who are being oppressed, but mainly by their own leaders like Hamas). Where are these people at events for the oppressed people of Iran, Sudan etc.? They are nowhere to be seen.

judyinjerusalem

4 February, 2010 - 08:32

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It's so obvious that the concept of universal jurisdiction has been manipulated and misused. See http://www.jcpa.org/text/universal-jurisdiction.pdf for a well-researched and documented rundown of how/why this has happened.

moshetzarfati2

4 February, 2010 - 09:58

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Universal jurisdiction has been used to bring to trial many war criminals from around the world. It isn't just Israel-minded as some would have us believe. The JCPA is a right-wing think tank with such luminaries as Dore Gold, Uzi Arad (who's even banned from the US), Gerald Steinberg and Moshe Yaalon, one of the most right wing members of Israel's far right government. What else would it say?

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