Unbelievable


By Jenni Frazer
February 7, 2011
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So a high-ranking foreign diplomat comes to speak at a university campus. First the society which is hosting him backs down from the invitation: perhaps the society leadership has got wind of what is about to transpire.

Instead another student society offers to host the event. A lecture theatre is booked. The speaker stands on the rostrum, but within minutes the entire event is effectively suspended as a shouting, chanting mob breaks up the meeting. Security men surround the speaker whose ability to argue is taken away, literally, when one of the protesters snatches away his microphone.

Are you shocked? Of course not. Because the speaker was an Israeli diplomat, an Arab Israeli, in fact, and the event, hosted by the Jewish students, was held, or rather not held, at Edinburgh University.

And nobody, apart from the furious Israeli ambassador, whose job you might say it is to be furious about such situations, is ready to condemn this disgusting state of affairs. The university does not want to speak about how a meeting on its premises was hi-jacked, primarily by non-students. The severely rattled diplomat has gone back to Israel and is unlikely to return. The Jewish students are deeply upset but you, too, if you were them, might be inclined to keep your head down in the knowledge that nobody is going to do anything about it.

Can I implore people to view the video and complain (politely) to the university? Otherwise this is going to get much, much worse.

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jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:26

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Ooops! "Lukas" is already there!


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:34

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Now Don Quixote-Jose is awarding himself two points. And it's fewer volunteers, not less... Jeez.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:39

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Please Milligramsam: I don't use several pseudos, so how could I award myself two points?
It is your confusion of singular with plural, again!


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:42

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Those Milligramsams. I'm intrigued. Are they big or small? White. Black, purple or translucient? What language do they speak? Have they ever threatened you or are you always getting reassuring hugs from them?


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:43

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Oh, and playing behind proxies would allow you to give yourself more than one point. Neat trick but so very indicative of your insecurity and lack of self control.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:43

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You become very repetitive in your plural obsessions, Milligramsam.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:44

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Oh, and playing behind proxies

Now who is the paranoid, Milligramsam?


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:45

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And you are a deluded obsessive with Don Quixote tendencies. Just give yourself a few more points and continue posting inanities.


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:47

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Perhaps the delusional obsessive needs to be ignored. if no one plays his games, he might have to seek a job -- or help.


Jon_i_Cohen

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:52

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Matt - you are right, the problem is with the modern phenomenon of "political correctness" hovering over everything that is said in the UK, people are afraid to call it "as it is", this lets the extremists like the EDL gain ground.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:52

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And you are a deluded obsessive

If you change your job from journalism, don't try to be a shrink. Might be even worse.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 16:56

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But how obstruction to free speech can be considered as politically correct in UK?
There must be a way to get rid of these nasty fascists just using the laws of a democracy.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 17:12

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I mean, now that Cameron has understood that UK should be less tolerant of the intolerant, pointing out these intolerant acts and applying lawfare could have an effect.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353902/David-Cameron-Stop-toler...


Macairt

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:40

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Longer video of what happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZznKXpwnM


mattpryor

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 18:55

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One thing that strikes me as odd about the video is that nearly all the people in the hall seem to be Palestinian sympathisers. How come more people didn't turn up?


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:20

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Just a guess, Matt, but perhaps people aren't all that bothered by the Israel\Palestinian conflict. I know it's an unfashionable view but the world doesn't revolve around I/P.


mattpryor

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:23

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Well all the people in that video are pretty bothered by it, and they are the people that have politicians' ears. So people had better start being bothered by it if they want Israel to still exist in five years' time.


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:38

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Matt, of course those attending are bothered. That's why they went. But once the students among them leave uni, they will be far more bothered by their debts, job-seeking, mortguage etc. All that will be left are the self-perpetuating shouties. And they have no one's ears except their own.
If we are truly worried about Israel's existence in five years' time, we must push for the Palestinians and the Israelis to reach an agreement on a two-state solution.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:49

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If we are truly worried about Israel's existence in five years' time, we must push for the Palestinians and the Israelis to reach an agreement on a two-state solution.

You mean a three-state solution, Milligramsam.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:52

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And of course, a two or three-state 'solution' is no solution anyway. Fortunately, I am less worried about Israel's existence than those who do not live there.


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:58

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Ah, the self-point-awarding Don Quixote returns with his multi-armed monster Milligramsam has returned to try and kill off a sensible debate. What's the matter, Jose, can't you stand it when two people have a proper conversation?


amber

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 19:58

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I'll say it again - Edinburgh Uni is a hotbed of anti-Semitism and anti-Israel bigotry. I know - I studied there.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 20:22

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What's the matter, Jose, can't you stand it when two people have a proper conversation?

Poor Milligramsam, convinced to have a 'proper' conversation when he confuses "Jewish" and "Judaism" (please get a dictionary), singular with plural (please get some grammar book) and two-state solution with three-state no-solution (get a maths book for 1st graders and one for politics 101).


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 20:24

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So, who will launch the first lawsuit?


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 20:50

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This milligramsam, Jose. Do you feel threatened by it? Is it like the rabbit in Donnie Darko or like the one in Harvey? I'm truly intrigued by this phenomenon. Does it give you points too? Is it like the Sandman or Rumplestiltskin?


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 21:06

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This milligramsam, Jose. Do you feel threatened by it?

Spare your backup neuron, it's going overload, Milligramsam.


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 22:01

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So, Jose, this Milligramsam. Donnie Darko or Harvey? It's a simple question.


Macairt

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:28

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Macairt

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:29

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Hi Matt,

please make your views known on Indymedia, here:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/02/473293.html?c=on#c264475

And please pass it on to as many as you can.

M


Joe Millis

Tue, 02/08/2011 - 23:39

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Hi Macairt, ta for that. Just added something


stellasolomons

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 01:09

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A rather nice response, below, from the Chaplain, to whom I sent the Hamas Charter with my wish fir less trouble not more

Thank you Stella
Yours
Harriet
Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange


jose (not verified)

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 07:48

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So, Jose, this Milligramsam. Donnie Darko or Harvey? It's a simple question.

A simple question from a simplistic mind, Milligramsam!


Joe Millis

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 10:21

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You have a simple mind, so answer it. This Milligramsam you see everywhere, is it a big rabbit?


Joe Millis

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 10:23

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Macairt, I see Indymedia have removed the critical comments. Not surprising coming from those who suppress free speech.


jose (not verified)

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 11:51

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You have a simple mind, so answer it.

Simple doesn't mean simplistic. Again, your mistake. Stop being ridicule, if you can.

Macairt, I see Indymedia have removed the critical comments. Not surprising coming from those who suppress free speech.

I wonder why you dared express your opinion on these leftie website that have no clue about freedom of speech.


Jenni Frazer

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 12:11

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This piece was well titled, "Unbelievable." Too many people used it as an excuse for the usual Punch and Judy show. Don't you guys have any sense?


Joe Millis

Wed, 02/09/2011 - 12:14

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You are, of course, quite right Jenni. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.


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Wed, 02/09/2011 - 12:15

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