UK MPs debate Antisemitism yesterday


By Jonathan Hoffman
January 21, 2011
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http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110120/hall...

There are many interesting contributions.

But the fact is that many of the recommendations of the All Party Committee have not been actioned. None of the MPs noted this.

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Jez Waterman (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 12:12

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Hi,
Lets hope antisemitism is eliminated along with other forms of racism. Mind you, I dont see much of it, whereas I encounter islamophobia every time I step out of the house. However there was antisemitism displayed recently by a member of Ahava staff, and none of the zionists on this blog would condemn it

Here is more hateful racism,

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4006385,00.html

My question to Mr. Hoffman is will he speak out against racists like Rabbi dov Lior who says that Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring. Otherwise the world becomes a safer place for Nazis who might respond by saying that Jewish sperm leads to barbaric offspring? I denounce all forms of racism. Over to you Mr. Hoffman


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 13:05

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Waterman has stated on these blogs that Jews bring antisemitism on themselves through their behaviour. He is himself an anti-Semite. He has also done his level best to associate Zionists with Nazis - a tactic of the New Antisemitism.

Such racism is intolerable. Waterman should be removed from the JC blogs.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 13:06

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Even in his post above, Waterman takes the opportunity to accuse Jews of racism, whilst he brushes over the whole topic of the blog.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 13:07

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Waterman is a racist and must go.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 13:15

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waterman, your friends trying to destroy a business and some jobs at Ahava recently cut out the Star of David from the Israeli flag, and threw it on the ground.

What a phony racist you are.


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 13:50

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Mind you, I dont see much of it, whereas I encounter islamophobia

Well antisemitism is a form of racism, while islamophobia isn't. Waterdrop cannot even think correctly.
Considering the troubles Islam creates around the world, I understand that some people become islamophobes:
- Pakistan,
- Afghanistan
- Iran
- Iraq
- Syria
- Judea/Samaria
- Lebanon
- Gaza
- Turkey
- Yemen
and others to come soon...
Is there another religion that makes more troubles? It escaped my radar.
Where there is no trouble, is where there is a dictator sufficiently strong to keep Islamists away:
- Saudi Arabia
- Jordan
- Egypt
- Tunisa (was, but that is now finished)
- Lybia
- Algeria

No doubt Waterman sees islamophobia. People could get fed up with troubles caused by Islamists. The reaction is clear in Europe: islamophobic parties are created and rapidly attract those who used to vote for extreme-right parties: Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, Germany...

The Islamists have already lost. They just don't know it yet. Bye-bye, Waterdrop!


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 14:02

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"Mind you, I dont see much of it, whereas I encounter islamophobia every time I step out of the house."

Islam is not a race, moron.

Moreover, 'Islamophobia' is a moronic term, which mainly antisemites resort to. A phobia is an irrational fear. Fear of Islam is perfectly rational, since this fascist political worldview espoused by cavemen has been responsible for more murders than anything else in the last 20 years, and is ona self-declared mission to subjugate the whole world.


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 14:04

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"What a phony racist you are"

Wrong. He is a genuine racist.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 14:26

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Sorry Yoni - badly phrased. I meant to say that he is both a phony (pretending to be anti-racist when he is one) and a racist.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 14:27

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And again an attempt to downplay antisemitism by inventing a racism which doesn't exist.

He has to go.


Jez Waterman (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 15:34

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Hi Amber. It is a horrible moment when the scales fall from your eyes. I understand why you want to get rid of voices that point out things like Rabbi Dov Lior's fascist views. I have searched the net and I cant find anything more revoltingly racist. Even the BNP site is less racist than the zionist rabbi. You can get rid of me and sink back into your Zionist comfort zone and pretend it was all a bad dream.In fact i will go voluntarily. All you have to do is to condenm the racism of the rabbi bigot, and this anti semitism at Ahava (it is on the blog on the link below)
and I will vanish from the Ziosphere.

http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jewish-protestor-accused-of-killing.h...


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 15:38

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It is a horrible moment when the scales fall from your eyes.

Wait until you experience that! LOL!
Remember that you are like the most racist ones.

and this anti semitism at Ahava

Oh yes, that video that was doctored to remove all what is pretended. Is that your 'proof' of antisemitism?
You don't know antisemitism because you are as antisemitic as Walinuts.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 15:46

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waterman's logic. There is a racist rabbi. He is a Zionist. Therefore Zionism is racism.

Not only are you a racist waterman, you are intrinsically stupid.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 15:47

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waterman claims Jews bring antisemitism on themselves through their behaviour.

JC, is this acceptable?


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 15:49

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No waterman, I know you're not a dream (or nightmare). You are part of the movement hellbent on destroying the Jewish state, through lies and racism.

It is, sadly, all too real. You are a disgrace and should be removed immediately.


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 15:52

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I denounce all forms of racism. Over to you Mr. Hoffman

As you demonstrated day after day in these blogs, you are just an antisemite hatemonger. Therefore, you don't denounce all forms of racism, just the ones you don't practice yourself.

You're probably not responsible for that, having been raised in a antisemitic environment, but as you are now of age, you have to pay for your own crimes. And racism is a crime.


mattpryor

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 16:03

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Lets hope antisemitism is eliminated along with other forms of racism. Mind you, I dont see much of it, whereas I encounter islamophobia every time I step out of the house.

If you're a Muslim why don't you just say so instead of pretending to be something else?


Jez Waterman (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 17:29

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Matt, Is it really so difficult for you to understand that is is possible to hate Islamophobia without being a Muslim? I am not a muslim and I have contempt for much of the Islamic treatment for women and much Islamic extremism. Similarly I have only contempt for the Christian bigots who want to burn Islamic books which they have never read (and who secretly think Jews will all burn in hell), and I hate the wave of evil which is now poisoning even the minds of children in Israel. If you were a real friend of Israel you would be worried about things like this. Check the link ----
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4015645,00.html


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 17:47

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"Is it really so difficult for you to understand that is is possible to hate Islamophobia without being a Muslim?"

Moron, is it really so difficult for you to understand that there isn't such a thing as 'islamophobia'?


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 17:49

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"I meant to say that he is both a phony (pretending to be anti-racist when he is one) and a racist"

I know - don't worry about it :)


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 18:04

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The worse idiocy of all is to confuse rational hate of Islamism with an imaginary islamophobia or worse racism anti-Arabs.


mattpryor

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 18:07

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There is no problem of bigotry against other faiths in Christianity or Judaism.

This problem does exist, and it is very serious, within Islam. Ordinary Muslims are as much victims of this violent intolerance as others. This scares me as it scares a lot of people in this country, particularly when the extremists claim to speak for the majority and Marxists such as Ken Livingston and UAF continue to enable them. For you to try to dissuade people from voicing this fear or debating it with labels such as racism and islamophobia is disgusting.

A phobia is an irrational fear of something. People's fear of fundamentalist politicised Islam, backed by acts of terrorism, is quite rational.


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 18:26

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There is no problem of bigotry against other faiths in Christianity or Judaism.

Indeed, a Jain bigot is even less likely to create problems than a normal Jain!


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 18:35

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waterman, Islam is not a race.

You're a bit thick, aren't you?


Jez Waterman (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 19:58

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Matt,
You can't have read my earlier posting, where the Rabbi stated that Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring.Gentiles are non Jews, ie people of other faiths. And then there is this one,. http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=191782
As to the christians, a few minutes googling will show you that Christian Zionists believe that all Jews who do not convert will go the hell at the moment known as "the rapture" All christian evangelicals believe that those who are not "saved" including Jews will perish in hellfire. Islam also thinks that non Muslims will perish. However Muslims and Jews lived amicably all over the middle east until the blight of Zionism. I have just returned from a holiday photographing Mosques in Morocco and in spain from the Islamic period. That is a cue for you all to freak into crazy mode

AMBER "Islam is not a race" well done for knowing that. on the other hand if you think I said it, please show me where. Are you still OK with Israeli racism, whilst at the same time hollering "antisemitism" at every argument you can't cope with?


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 20:15

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WATERMAN, - YOU ARE A DISGUSTING RACIST WHO HATES JEWS. You blame Jews for bringing antisemitism on themselves, and accuse them of being close to Nazis. Only the most demented racist scumbag would say that.

You have no credibility. Your presence here on a Jewish website is intolerable.

You have articulated racist views. Go away.


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 20:43

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However Muslims and Jews lived amicably all over the middle east until the blight of Zionism.

How can anyone be so ignorant? Doesn't that stupid know that Muhammad killed Jews at the beginning of his cult? Doesn't he know that pogroms happened regularly in 'Palestine' and elsewhere in the Muslim world over centuries, although it was not an organised policy at the time?
Zionism could not be tolerated by Islam because it is impossible for Islam to admit other religions are equal to it.

I have just returned from a holiday photographing Mosques in Morocco and in spain from the Islamic period.

How many synagogues did you see? What is the proportion of Jews in Morocco, compared to the proportion of Israeli Arabs? Don't you see this is a proof of ethnic cleansing, even in Morocco which is not the worse of Muslim countries?
Why do you support a dictatorial regime such as Morocco and criticise a democratic regime such as Israel?


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 20:48

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Waterdrop, why do you support apartheid in 'Palestine' ?


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 20:56

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"People's fear of fundamentalist politicised Islam, backed by acts of terrorism, is quite rational"

It is a mistake to make this distinction. There is no 'fundamentalist' and 'non-fundamentalist' Islam. All Muslims are required to be 'fundamentalist'. And there is no other system of belief in the world today whose adherents are as brainwashed as Islam.

Moreover, it is not a religion but a totalitarian political worldview. As such, it cannot be 'politicised'.


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 20:58

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"Islam is not a race" well done for knowing that. on the other hand if you think I said it, please show me where"

Above, in the context of racism, idiot.

"However Muslims and Jews lived amicably all over the middle east until the blight of Zionism"

What brainless crap. The Jews were dhimmis. Look it up, or ask your mummy to explain it to you.

Anyone who calls the national liberation movement of the Jews in their own homeland is a Nazi, end of.


Yoni1

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 20:59

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Sorry,
Anyone who calls the national liberation movement of the Jews in their own homeland a 'blight' is a Nazi, end of.


amber

Fri, 01/21/2011 - 23:22

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Jose - he supports apartheid in "Palestine" against Jews because he is a classic Jew hater.


Mike Bar

Sat, 01/22/2011 - 22:45

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Surely any rational person, who knows anything about Islam, will have noted right away that it’s more of a cult than religion.

How can people follow a book that is firmly planted in 7th Cent.? Arabia & has never progressed.
There are no redeeming features in Islam or the Qumran.

I have been accused of islamophobia just for attempting several dialogs with people.

What religion, whoops cult, which includes racism, misogamy, homophobia, pedophilia, Jihadists & colonialism ideology be any relevance in the 21st Cent. ?


Yoni1

Sun, 01/23/2011 - 12:03

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It's not a cult, or at least not just a cult. It's a totalitarian, fascist political dogma.


Mike Bar

Sun, 01/23/2011 - 22:10

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Hey Yoni, well put. Knew I'd left something out!


Yvetta

Tue, 01/25/2011 - 13:32

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I hope a certain gentleman in Jerusalem is keeping track of Waterman's naked antisemitism - that the JC continues to permit this sort of Jew-hatred is reprehensible.

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