Time for a chareidi-free Israeli government?


By telegramsam
November 24, 2010
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According to this poll, that's what most Israelis want.
Even the new immigrants, most of whom are from the former USSR and voted for Yisrael Beiteinu, are displeased with the government's performance on state and religion.

Seventy-seven percent of olim polled disapproved of government policy on religion and state, even with the participation of Israel Beiteinu. Seventy percent of olim supported the establishment of a civilian government which would include Likud and Kadima without Shas and United Torah Judaism, while 97% of haredim opposed a government of this composition.

And in doing so, echo the views of one of Israel's leading Reform rabbis, Ori Regev.

"The data represents the fact that the Israeli public is fed-up with policy being set by the haredi political parties and feels that their future and rights are being given up to the religious groups," said director-general of Hiddush, attorney and Rabbi Ori Regev.
"The public wants a leading government, not a submissive government. The public desires a government which will finally implement the promise of the Declaration of Independence relating to freedom of religion and conscience. The public wants a government that will not pass yeshiva stipends and will take away the monopolistic control over marrage and divorce by the ever-more-haredi Rabbinate," said Regev.
Regev called on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and opposition leader Tzipi Livni "to answer the calls of the public and establish a civilian government that will courageously implement the desired reforms."

From his mouth...

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Avraham Reiss

24 November, 2010 - 16:16

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TIME FOR A TELEGRAMMSAM FREE BLOG!

tspam's obsession with the State of Israel is approaching pathological proportions.

Avraham Reiss

24 November, 2010 - 16:21

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"survey published Wednesday by the Smith Institute for the Hiddush foundation For Freedom of Religion and Equality."

"The data represents the fact that the Israeli public is fed-up with policy being set by the haredi political parties and feels that their future and rights are being given up to the religious groups," said director-general of Hiddush, attorney and Rabbi Uri Regev. "

Regev, a rabbi like I'm an astronaut, is of the Conservative Jews super-minority here; he's always mixing in and stirring up anti-Orthodox-religion in Israel.

I believe in the results of his survey like I believe whatever tspam writes anywhere.

Robert Snodgrass

24 November, 2010 - 16:31

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The Haredi Jews are pivotel to keeping the Jewish race going. Although not everyones cup of tea, if we didn't have Haredim educating fellow Jews and practicing Judaism, I believe it would eventually fall.

Asking for Israel to be Haredi free is akin to asking for Israel to be Jew free. Actually, having thought about it, that would suit you perfectly Sam wouldn't it

telegramsam

24 November, 2010 - 16:34

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Robert, the poll didn't ask if they wanted a haredi-free Israel, but a haredi-free government. Nowt wrong with that.

Do you play for Leeds United? Good luck for the season. It would be nice to have at least one Yorkshire club in the Premiership.

telegramsam

24 November, 2010 - 16:36

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I didn't know you were an astronaut, Avraham. Which mission were you on?

Akiva

24 November, 2010 - 18:09

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1. It was a poll of SECULAR Israelis, not ALL Israelis. The results are about as surprising as to discover that Telegramsam isn't Shomer Shabbat.

2. It doesn't matter what a poll of secular Israelis think. The Haredi parties are there because people vote for them. That's how democracy works.

3. As the religious population increases and the secular population vastly diminishes, the character of the state will change in favour of the former rather than the latter.

telegramsam

24 November, 2010 - 18:19

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Akiva, I'm not entirely sure it was a poll of just secular Israelis since it gives results for the Chareidim too

Among the haredi population, 91% of those polled said they were dissatisfied with religious and state policy and within the religious sector, 64% expressed discontent.

jose (not verified)

25 November, 2010 - 13:07

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As usual, the anti-democrats reveal themselves by wanting to exclude part of the Israeli population from the government.

The stupîdity forwarded by tspam appears in that there was no need for a Haredi government except that Livni rejected all of Netanyahu's offers to form a strong coalition.
Hence he needed the religious parties to be able to govern.

Conversely, Livni had been incapable of making herself a coalition (remember that Kadima got more votes than Likud?), as she excluded the religious parties.
These parties also were present in some previous left-wing governments so that would not be a first time.

Tspam shows only his total misunderstanding of the simple notion of democracy.

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