Those nice "pro-democracy" demonstrators in Egypt


By mattpryor
February 1, 2011
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If you are in any doubts about what will happen in Egypt if Mubarak falls, please watch this video of a CNN interview with some "peaceful protesters":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aWcKewmyh_o

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zair (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:26

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Yes yes matt, peddling the Israeli Hasbara narrative that only bad can come of this. Sure there are many with very dubious conspiracy theories but for a second come out in support for the vast majority who want nothing more than freedom to choose their government.


mattpryor

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:28

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What is Hasbara? And what right do you have to call me "matt" when your name is hidden, Jew hater?


Yoni1

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:35

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Once again, the vile antisemite Zair spews his bile on a Jewish blog.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 11:36

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Sure there are many with very dubious conspiracy theories but for a second come out in support for the vast majority who want nothing more than freedom to choose their government.

Nothing but... ? Do you remember the day when a majority of 'Palestinians' chose the Nazi organisation HAMAS to lead them to destruction? Not that I would object if that was what they really wanted. But did they have any right to try to destroy Israel first?
Ah, Hater zair doesn't care about consequences of people's votes on themselves, provided they are detrimental to Israel. But we do, Hater zair, we do. Both for Israel and the good of the Egyptian people.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 12:48

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Anyway, this shows that despite 30 years of peace, the total restitution of Sinai, some Egyptians are still considering Israel as an enemy, even while they riot against their own dictator, ask for democracy and certainly for a better pay.

Israel is the best scapegoat in the Middle East for Arab dictators.
The good thing is that it is a scapegoat to stay away from!


Jonathan Hoffman

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:35

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mattpryor

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 13:46

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It disgusts me the way the BBC are fawning all over El-Baradei and portraying him as some kind of saviour for Egypt. Yesterday Bowen said he had the support of the "influential" Muslim Brotherhood. They are doing a good job of hiding the Brotherhood's nature. Is everyone really so stupid?

And why does it need to be a Jew that points this out? Everyone knows El-Baradei's involvement with the IAEA. Why are the rest of the world leaders so morally bankrupt and cowardly?


raycook

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:06

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Matt, I mentioned the CNN report in my recent blog and the danger of the Muslim Brotherhood taking the reins of government.

I wish the Egyptian people true freedom and democracy but they do not appear to be great lovers of Israel.

You can easily find vicious antisemitic material in Egypt including the Protocols.

However, one thing I would say in favour of the demonstrators: they are very keen to abjure violence and there is a marked absence of overt signs or anti-Israel or anti-Western sloganising.

Here in Israel, where I am at the moment, they cannot imagine how democracy can arise ex nihilo, as it were, and there is a huge danger of an Islamist leader arising to take control.


jandrsimonson (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:07

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Will someone please tell poor Matt that these don't purport to be peaceful demos. It's a revolution dummy


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:28

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Will someone please tell poor Matt that these don't purport to be peaceful demos. It's a revolution dummy

Maybe someone can try to explain poor simonsam that this is not a reason to scapegoat the Jewish state?


mattpryor

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:49

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Jandrsimonson please don't patronise me, and don't call me a dummy.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:54

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Matt, simonsam was saying it is a dummy revolution...


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 15:55

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Or a revolution for dummies...


Yoni1

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:33

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"Why are the rest of the world leaders so morally bankrupt and cowardly?"

Well, Bowen is morally bankrupt with bells and whistles. He doesn't like Joos or their jumped-up, hook-nosed state.


Yoni1

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 16:34

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As to Mandela - he supported the indiscriminate murder of civilians. He is a terrorist.


mattpryor

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:09

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Dear lord, has anyone read what Bowen says about the Muslim Brotherhood?

The country's only properly organised mass political movement outside the ruling party is the Muslim Brotherhood, and it would do very well in any free election.

Unlike the jihadis, it does not believe it is at war with the West. It is conservative and non-violent. But it is highly critical of Western policy in the Middle East.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12325128

Does he actually live on the same planet as everyone else?


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 17:22

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Does he actually live on the same planet as everyone else?

Planet? You mean parallel universe!


amber

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 18:32

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simonson, the only dummy around here is you.


jose (not verified)

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 18:48

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I think Mrs "-1" is around!


Jonathan Hoffman

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:19

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Bowen should stick this where the sun don't shine:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3875636,00.html

Former IAEA Chief Mohamed ElBaradei, who is considering contending in Egypt's presidential elections next year, expressed his support for the "Palestinian resistance" while slamming Israel.
In a report published Tuesday, the experienced diplomat said that Palestinian violence was the only path open to the Palestinian people, because "the Israeli occupation only understands the language of violence."


Yoni1

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 19:39

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"Does he actually live on the same planet as everyone else?"

No, he lives in the London Borough of Al Beeb and Al Guardian, postcode N1 - that's in a galaxy of lunatics far, far away.


Jonathan Hoffman

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 20:08

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It seems that Baradei never said the quote above attributed to him:

"I have been in a number of meetings and held various private conversations with Mohammed El Baradei, during his tenure at the IAEA. Some of these conversations took place during his official visits to Israel. In these meetings, I never heard any statements that reflected anti-Israel demonisation, such as those frequently voiced by a number of Egyptian and Arab League officials. Although he did express differences with Israeli policy, including on the NPT, the language was not venomous. Under El Baradei's leadership, the IAEA first ignored and then understated the extent of illicit Iranian nuclear weapons development -- due to institutional and personal factors, and without evidence of an anti-Israel or pro-Iranian agenda. Perhaps later, as a secular and long-shot contender for Egyptian leadership, tactically allied with the Moslem Brotherhood, his statements on Israel have become sharper -- I cannot claim any specialised knowledge on this aspect. "

Prof. Gerald M. Steinberg / Bar Ilan University

NB he did say: "Right now, Gaza -- as was mentioned by the former head of UNWRA, Karen AbuZayd -- is the biggest prison in the world. It pains you to hear that. It pains you to hear that about any people, anywhere in the world."

Its important to see this quote in context however- http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/02/19/transcript_mohamed_elba...


Yoni1

Tue, 02/01/2011 - 21:19

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"the IAEA first ignored and then understated the extent of illicit Iranian nuclear weapons development"

That makes him either a knave or a twat.

"Gaza ... is the biggest prison in the world"

OK, a twat, then.

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