"They should dig Gilad Shalit up and kill him again."


By richmillett
October 12, 2010
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After the previous Saturday’s attack on Ahava’s Covent Garden store the Metropolitan Police upped their presence to guard against further similar disruption during last Saturday’s anti-Israel protest.

There were about 25 officers.

The anti-Israel activists were there in their usual numbers, about 45, while the pro-Israel counter-demonstators numbered about 15.

Despite being outnumbered it wouldn’t be hard to figure out which side was making the more compelling argument to passers-by.

Police were not letting anyone into the store without prior approval.

As I approached the door two officers menacingly blocked me before looking round at Rita, all of 5 ft tall and alone in the shop, who gave them the nod to allow me in.

I wondered whether the heroic men who attacked the shop the previous Saturday would have done the same if there were two burly male members of staff present in the usually unguarded shop instead of just one or two females.

I doubt it very much being cowards to the core.

Still the leading organising activist told me that such violent action against Ahava will continue until the shop has to shut.

He also went on to tell me that Gilad Shalit, the Israel soldier abducted by Hamas four and a half years ago, should be dug up (assuming he is already dead) and killed again because that is what he deserves. Nice, eh?

That, if anything, is a reminder of the hateful ideology behind this specific protest for those who think that this is just a legitimate protest against Ahava’s presence on the West Bank.

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Jonathan Hoffman

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 06:06

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"....the leading organising activist"

It's Bruce Levy, the New York Jew who loves to be ashamed to be Jewish, with a face like a poisoned dwarf.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 08:07

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Richard, this is truly disgraceful, thanks for bringing it to our attention. And Jonathan... you're no oil painting, so adhere to the rule about those who live in glass houses.


Jonathan Hoffman

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 08:29

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Glass houses?

There speaks the anonymous trolling coward who does not dare to show his/her face.

What a joke.


Jonathan Hoffman

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 08:30

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Glass houses?

When you prefer to go to football matches than support Israel?

Hypocrite


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 08:56

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This reminds me of the reaction of the Palestine Solidarity Movement activists who fell about laughing and mocking when I mentioned Gilad Shalit at a meeting addressed by Gaza convoy veteran Rod Cox; I blogged about it on here some time ago.
Despicable.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 09:01

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Yes, t'sam, remember that you said a certain gal has "no balls" for using an alias - you wrote this while using an alias yourself!
Play nicely.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 09:30

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Calm down Jonathan. You'll do yourself a mischief.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 09:32

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And Jonathan your action is supporting ahavas profits and your own self promotion, not israel.


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 10:12

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Jonathan, I cannot express how immensely proud I was to see you speaking on the show. You did yourself and the Zionist Federation a great deal of credit.

Ibrows: I assume you are a Muslim. If that is the case, I would suggest you support moderate people that are brave enough to stand up against Islamism which is as much of a threat to the Muslim community as to the world at large.

Only the other week in Kingston the police received a number of complaints from some very scared Sufi Muslims who have received death threats from a local Islamist group. In Pakistan mosques are being attacked by Islamists on a regular basis. Wake up and see what is happening.

The British public are very concerned about this political ideology, we are largely unaware and uninterested in the divisions that exist within the Muslim community, and Muslims who do not support Islamism do themselves no favours by attacking those that speak out against it.

This is more important than your obsession with Israel.


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 10:16

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I meant to post the above on the thread about the Sunday Morning Live debate.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 11:56

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I'm glad you put it on this thread too, Matt, because it's a relevant riposte to the unworthy flak that Jonathan is getting from t'sam.
It's really below the belt, t'sam, to accuse Joanthan of "self-promotion". I "discovered" Jonathan when I saw him on a TV programme facing down a baying mob of anti-Israel fanatics. It cheered me enormously to see at least one Anglo-Jewish leader not afraid to speak out boldly, and he ably stood his ground against all comers. That's the kind of leadership I'm used to in Australia.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:10

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Hardly a leader, Yvetta. But certainly obsessed with self-promotion. And that has led him astray, with his strange bedfellows at the Ahava demos.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:13

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They chose to stand beside him. He didn't even notice the curvy EDL minx in the tight top as she sidled up to him for a photo opportunity. He was focused on the pro-Ahava/pro-Israel cause. He has said repeatedly that he dissociates himself from the EDL. He has requested separate pens. Please stop defaming him.


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:21

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Telegramsam why do you attack Jonathan instead of the EDL, knowing full well he doesn't support them and doesn't share their anti-Muslim views?

They have their own forums you know. Why don't you go on there to post your views about them and save the JC for reasonable debate?

You should support Jonathan, not attack him. It's really unhelpful. You're as bad as Masroor, and make yourself look just as idiotic.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:29

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He's never dissociated himself from them, or asked for a separate pen or demonstrated on alternate weekends when they are not there. He could have done one, two or all three of those things, but he chooses instead to be abusive towards those who point that out to him. Jews don't stand with Nazis. Jews don't debate with Nazis -- and that's why I don't bother with EDL/BNP fora. It's as simple as that.
It is he who looks foolish and it is he who is discrediting the Zionist movement. No wonder he overcompensates by trying to self-promote.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:31

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Yvetta, he seemed pretty cosy with Roberta Moore of the EDL/BNP's Liebstandarte Jüde. And he gets his mates to say he dissociates or asks for separate pens. When you ask him about it, he gets defensive and abusive.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:33

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t'sam - you are wrong on all counts. I know he has asked for separate pens.


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:34

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He demonstrates when the anti-Israel protesters are there. What would be the point of demonstrating when they're not there?

He always asks for a separate pen.

He has frequently disassociated himself from them here and elsewhere.

Stop lying telegramsam, why do you do it?


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:56

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Who's lying, Matt? You've seen his abusive response when it has been suggested to him that he ask for separate pens or demonstrates on alternate weekends. Show where he has dissociated himself from them. He won't because he can't.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:56

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You know, Yvetta. How? Because he told you?


happygoldfish

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 13:13

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telegramsam: … you're no oil painting, so adhere to the rule about those who live in glass houses.

erm … people who are no oil paintings shouldn't live in glass houses!

we goldfish are proud of our little glass bowls!

telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 13:16

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Damn straight, HG


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 13:33

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I am much more inclined to take the word of a real person than an internet nobody, telegramsam.

Just give it a bloody rest.


happygoldfish

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 13:48

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what about an internet fish?

mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 13:51

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A fish that can type deserves utmost respect.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 14:33

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I shall not divulge what I may or may not have been told privately, t'sam. But I can vouch for the fact that all I have told you, and what Matt has told you, is true.
Jonathan is a courageous honourable man.
Try to measure up :~]


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:00

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Then why doesn't he behave like the courageous and honorable man you claim he is and simply -- once and for all and without the abuse -- dissociate himself here from the EDL/BNP, and say he will ask for a separate pen? If he's so courageous and honorable, why can't he do that himself instead of sending his acolytes to do his dirty work?


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:40

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Telegramsam you have a very short memory, which explains your myopic and lazy political views.

http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/ahava-counter-demo-14-august-phone-intervi...

Note your own reply, which is the first one.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:51

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t'sam, Matt and I are not his "acolytes" - we have, with unblinkered gaze, paid more attention than you have to his posts, that's all. He has on numerous occasions dissociated himself from the EDL but you are so intent on defaming him that you are evidently wilfully blind!


Jon_i_Cohen

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:51

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For the benefit of telegramSHAM; time to check out these links and for you to "stop flogging your dead horse"

http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/ahava-counter-demo-14-august-phone-intervi...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/17/stephen-bates-diary-eric-...


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 15:55

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Oh I don't mind being labelled an "acolyte" for Jonathan, in fact I consider it a backhanded compliment.

Who is telegramsam an "acolyte" for though, I wonder?


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:07

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Very funny, but that was in August and he still want and stood with them. Sometimes you wonder what to believe. And he still won't dissociate himself, preferring instead to go all defensive and hurl abuse


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:08

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I acolyte for no one, Matt.


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:35

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@Telegramsam

Sometimes you wonder what to believe

No, I don't wonder who to believe. Anyone with a brain can work out what's going on.

I do wonder about you though. You repeatedly lie and smear the person that organises pro-Israel rallies and stands up to liars, anti-Semites and haters of Israel. Why would you do this? Because you're worried about the ZF's reputation or Jewish-Muslim relations? Ha.

I wonder, I wonder, I wonder...


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:48

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He organises pro-Ahava rallies, at best. He doesn't stand up to antisemites, because he's in the same pen as the EDL/BNP. Yes, I am worried about the ZF being taken over by a fringe element which renders it ineffective in the face of a real fight.


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 16:49

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Bullsh*t.

You have zero credibility on this website telegramsam and nobody except your fellow propagandists believe a word you say.


telegramsam

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 17:12

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Matt, I really care not a jot about what you or any other propagandist here thinks.


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 18:00

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OH! That's hurt us all to the quick, that has!


mattpryor

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 18:05

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Don't lose sleep Yvetta, he/she/it will have forgotten all about this conversation tomorrow!


Yvetta

Tue, 10/12/2010 - 18:12

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LOL

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