The real anti-Zionist enemy within

You've posted this on my blog; why again?
Pro-Zion and Meretz are of the far left and could well be under investigation.
What you fail to grasp is that in a democracy, such as Israel, left wing extremists can make their point freely, but and it is a big BUT they cannot be funded by enemies of the state.
It is the funding that is to be investigated, not the parties or the viewpoints - a clear distinction.

I love the fact that the lefties are getting so upset by this. Are they worried about what will be uncovered, perhaps?

Joe, I'm sorry to say this, but this sounds like real racism against the Russians.

Israel is an amazing melting pot of all cultures. It constantly evolves with new immigrants bringing part of their background. That includes, music, food, education, etc, etc.

There is only one way to get to become an MK, and that's through the voting system. 1 man, 1 vote. It's totally democratic. Yisrael Beitenu would not have as many seats as they do without these democratic votes.

Joe, if you have a vote, use it and campaign in Israel for your preferred party. If not, like the rest of us in the UK, be supportive and respect the wishes of the Israeli voters.

Joe, if you have a vote, use it and campaign in Israel for your preferred party. If not, like the rest of us in the UK, be supportive and respect the wishes of the Israeli voters.

Milligramsam doesn't have a vote, fortunately. I have one, and I'll use it! The more I see what nuts like aarondover and his ilk write, the more I am tempted to vote for those who want to crack these nuts.

"a McCarthyite committee"

This thick dweeb has no clue what McCarthyite means. Looking into funding is not 'McCarthyite', moron.

"Anyone supporting this move is not a real Zionist and doesn't have Israel's best interests at heart"

Spoken like a true totalitarian propagandising shit.

I think Joe does have a vote.

Spot the difference:

"Anyone supporting this move is not a real Zionist and doesn't have Israel's best interests at heart"

- Joe Millis, 6/1/2011

"Anyone supporting Salman Taseer is not a true Muslim and does not have Islam's best interests at heart

- Jamaat-e-Islami statement published two days before Taseer's assassination

Joe does have a vote, Kahina. And I was merely pointing out that someone who grew up under the Stalinist Soviet system has introduced a proposal that is reminiscent of the, ahem, Stalinist Soviet system.
I support Israel, Kahina, not anti-Zionist proposals by its current government.

millis, foreign governments are funding non-accountable groups which advocate policies antithetical to Israel's democracy and interests.

That you are happy with this state of affairs says eveything one needs to know about you and your agenda.

How silly you are.

Jon-i-Cohen, I'm sure you will be campaigning for the far left Meretz and Pro-Zion to be barred from the Zionist Federation, to which they are affiliated. In fact, I believe they account for the largest body in the ZF.

"reminiscent of Stalinist Soviet system"

What an uneducated and crass statement.

Joe does have a vote, Kahina.

Living in Israel is necessary to have a vote.

Real Zionists, those of Im Tirtzu, approved that long overdue inquiry on the funding of the enemies of Israel, an investigation all democratic countries do and certainly even more so in times of war.

Let's remind how the American treated the Japanese-Americans during WW II. They sent them to concentration camps. They were Americans, but looked like the enemy...

Does Israel send its Arab citizen to concentration camps when there is a war with its Arab neighbours? Never!
On the contrary, in Israel, the only ones who can really avoid military service are the Israeli citizens or Arabic descent.

Imagine what would have happened to a Japanese-American who would have said that he doesn't want to serve his country against the militaristic Japanese regime...

Whatever next? Purges? Show trials? Doctors' plots?

That the Slippery Slope sophism, Milligramsam.

Instead of blaming Israel for something all democracies do even in time of peace, try to criticise Iran's funding of Hezbollah for once. You would look like a real Zionist for once in your life.

Kahina, just to add that I will not be supportive of its government if that government adopts policies that I believe to be suicidal. It's like letting a drunk family member drive a car when you know they are drunk. Kol Yisrael arevim zeh le'zeh. We are all responsible for each other and the responsible thing to do is to prevent the drunk from driving.

Milligramsam is going mad about the negative points...

For someone who swore he wouldn't care to answer anyone without a full name, that's pretty dishonest. But what else to expect from such a notorious anti-Zionist anyway?

We are all responsible for each other and the responsible thing to do is to prevent the drunk from driving.

Again, Milligramsam poses as the superior man. Milligramsam is the drunk one who wants to take the wheel to the sobre one.

And kahina, since I know who you are, I don't mind debating with you despite the fact that you hide behind a pseudonym. Also, you are polite and charming, and your posts are thought-provoking, unlike some others with their obsessive, incontinent-starling like mailings.

It's depressing that these fanatics led by JoseAnth,who I understand has been banned from this blog site several times, persist in comparing Israel to the very worst in the world and in history.I hate to suggest it but do they seriously think this is the only way Israel can look good ?

Well some of us are more positive and optimistic.

Why does the JC allow these people to drive people away from the site with their rudeness ,lack of discernment and unwillingness to engage on any level that doesn't encompass the use of a stream of invectives such as moron, pisher, tosser and similar kindergarten yaboo's

It's high time this site was reclaimed by people who want to think and talk calmly about the issues.

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Thank you Joe.

I may start such a reclaim the blog site initiative or maybe I am too lazy. Maybe someone else might ?

It's depressing that these fanatics led by JoseAnth,who I understand has been banned from this blog site several times,

Where is JoseAnth, moron?

persist in comparing Israel to the very worst in the world

Stupids cannot read past the spinal chord. I do not compare Israel to the very worst. I compare favourably Israel to the best.
You refuse to criticise the worst and always criticise Israel. That is what I point out. Double standards

And double standards are a sure sign of antisemitism.

I may start such a reclaim the blog site initiative or maybe I am too lazy. Maybe someone else might ?

Who cares what you do?

Where is JoseAnth, moron?

They just can't hack it can they ?

simonson, an obsessive Israel hater, wants to "reclaim" the site. How long have you been here simonson?

Annoying when you don't have it all your Israel hating way, isn't it?

They just can't hack it can they ?

Who are "they"? Are "they" all after you? Do you seen "they" often at night?

jandrsimonson, me may or may not be anthony posner, aka blacklisted dictator, but I'm about to find out once and for all. We journalists have our sources, you know.

sorry, that's hemay or may not be anthony posner, aka blacklisted dictator...

Matt, your comparison is brilliant!

The thinking of extremes, whatever the side, are similar. They decide who is a true believer, the upholders of the true faith.
And they go into a crusade/jihad to convert the pagans/infidels.

Zionists should be wary of these extremes who deny the just claim of the Jewish people to have a land of their own.

jandrsimonson, me may or may not be anthony posner, aka blacklisted dictator, but I'm about to find out once and for all. We journalists have our sources, you know.

You're so ridiculous when you boast, Milligramsam!

Joe

"It's like letting a drunk family member drive a car when you know they are drunk."

What if it's the observer who's drunk and not the driver? Maybe in the West we're observing everything through camera lenses and biased commentaries? Maybe we should be searching for the sections that are edited out. The parts that if included, would make a boring story, and wouldn't make it to press.

We have to ask ourselves, why are YB gaining so much of the popular vote? What is so attractive about them to people residing in Israel? I can bet if you or I met MK Faina Kirshenbaum on a one to one, we'd probably end up agreeing with her.

I know why YB are gaining support, Kahina. The politics of fear and fascism usually trump rational thought in a fearful society, a society whose leaders have not told them the truth for many years, if at all -- that they cannot sustain the occupation without losing the moral high ground and humanity.
I don't think the observer is drunk -- I would say that, wouldn't I?. The driver is drunk on power and arrogance. As you know, I am not one to get my info from camera lenses or biased commentaries. I have spent a life time searching for and sifting through the sections that have been edited out (but you knew that anyway), and what I have found that it is a helluva lot worse than that. I see a country, the Jews' last hope to turn into a "normal" people, going down the tubes. And as you know, this hurts very much.
I doubt I would agree with Faina Kirshenbaum. I cannot agree with people who adopt McCarthyite methods or want to gain political capital on the backs of the weak. Simples, as some meerkat would say.

I don't think the observer is drunk -- I would say that, wouldn't I?

The observer is totally drunk, drunk of having lived all his life in a war-free environment, not surrounded by people who vouch to murder him and claim that loud and clear and reading day after day the same delegitimising propaganda forwarded by a crowd 100 times larger.

The observer is totally drunk and applying double standards.

And as you know, Kahina, I lived in Israel for about half my life and served for three years+ in a combat unit, plus quite a bit of miluim (including Lebanon 1), so you know where I am coming from.

We have to ask ourselves, why are YB gaining so much of the popular vote?

You may as well ask the same question in Holland, Denmark, Sweden, etc.

Anti-Islamism (not anti-Muslims, please note) is beginning to be a main political point for an important part of the voters.
Because they are fed up with the constant attacks and pressures by the Islamists on the Western world.
Nowhere on Earth is the pressure higher than in Israel, the cristallisation of all what the Islamists hate: democracy, freedom of religion and Jews in control.

so you know where I am coming from.

And as a non-resident of Israel, you are not allowed to vote.

Simonson I'm your man !!! ok well maybe I got a lil bit over excited I meant that figuratively

But it gave me an idea. We are only talking about a handful of nutters here. Posner, Yonithan, pryor jo cohen , Amber maybe a couple more

How about we just ignore their hysterical ravings and match their incontinent bloggings blog for blog

Leave them to rant at each other and just talk among ourselves and to the sane wider audience ?

I bet yonithan will be calling Posner a pisher and Posner Yonithan a moron inside 24 hours

I'll get started !!

"unlike some others with their obsessive, incontinent-starling like mailings"

Starlings don't mail, idiot.

But what can you expect from a ranting Israel-hater ...

Joe, I know you were in Lebanon I, but everything has changed since then. Including that you are back in London. Since the return of Gaza to Palestinian rule, and the subsequent rocket attacks, Israelis no longer trust their neighbours anymore. Can you blame them?

Jose is right. It is the creeping Islamism. Nobody wants the extremists to have a say in government, whether in Europe or Israel. That applies equally to Jewish fundamentalists.

And talking of YB, why do the press describe them as extreme right? Why do the reform and liberal Jewish movements oppose them so much? They're the secular party. They want less religion, easier conversions, etc. They're much closer to Liberal Judaism than anyone will admit.

Mentioning YB in the UK guarantees an instant response of being labeled a racist.

Who is feeding this opinion?

"I know why YB are gaining support, Kahina. The politics of fear and fascism"

What a disgusting shit you are.

"they cannot sustain the occupation without losing the moral high ground and humanity"

Fuck your smug 'moral high ground'. Israel is fighting for survival.

"I cannot agree with people who adopt McCarthyite methods"

Call this 'McCarthyite' is ignorant, stupid and antisemitic.

How about we just ignore their hysterical ravings and match their incontinent bloggings blog for blog

Ignore yours first! ROTFL!

This should be of interest to the moderators: a small league of antisemites starting a crusade against the JC blogs.

"Who is feeding this opinion?"

Jew-haters who can't stand 'uppity Joos'.

see how easy it is yonithan and posner have lost it already

But it gave me an idea. We are only talking about a handful of nutters here. Posner, Yonithan, pryor jo cohen , Amber maybe a couple more

Forgot me, Yoni1, Jon, Jonathan, plus those who won't stay idle while antisemites are vomitting their bile on Israel.

see how easy it is yonithan and posner have lost it already

Where is Posner, Wheelchair? Do you often make nightmares where Posner is out to get you?

Quarterdick needs to increase his medication.

Quarterdick needs to increase his medication.

Quarterdick needs to increase his medication.