The Party Ends - Knesset Votes to Investigate Leftist Funding


By Jon_i_Cohen
January 5, 2011
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The Knesset plenum voted 41:17 Monday to establish a parliamentary committee of inquiry that will look into the sources of funding for non-governmental "human rights" groups that act against the Israel Defense Force and undermine the perceived legitimacy of the State of Israel.

The resolution was proposed by MK Faina Kirshenbaum (Israel is Our Home), after lobbying by grassroots student movement Im Tirtzu and other nationalist groups.

The inquiry intends to expose the sources of funding for groups like B'Tselem, Yesh Din and Machsom Watch, that monitor IDF soldiers' activities and report on them to the press and to hostile foreign bodies like the Goldstone Committee.

The plenum's decision is a continuation of the momentum that began in February, when a media campaign by Im Tirtzu placed the public spotlight on the activity of the New Israel Fund and the groups it supports.

The Knesset also approved a second proposal, for a committee of inquiry to look into hostile foreign buy-ups of land in Israel.

The plenum discussion was extremely heated, with MKs from left and right interrupting each other, getting up from their seats and approaching the podium during a rival MK's speech.

Kirshenbaum gave a stern, angry speech and fought off Arab and leftist hecklers. "You too live peacefully in Israel because the IDF soldiers protect you," Kirshenbaum told MK Ahmed Tibi (Raam Taal), who interrupted her repeatedly. My son serves in the army. I will not send my son into the army along with a lawyer to defend him. You don't care but I care, I care that this country will have legitimacy to defend itself."

Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon (Israel is Our Home) said that the proposed committee of inquiry on leftist funding has the support of the government. "We are talking about protecting the soldiers of the IDF, the judicial system and the State of Israel from the manipulations that elements here in Israel carry out. We ask that the parliamentary committee investigate the organizations that wish to topple democracy in Israel."

Minister Michael Eitan (Likud) angrily challenged Ayalon's claim to be speaking for the Israeli government and said that the matter had not been discussed by the government.

The House Committee will now determine the personal makeup of the committee and its specific mandate. A Knesset committee of inquiry does not have the power to subpoena witnesses or recommend any kind of punishment. However, it can be useful as a political tool, and in affecting public opinion and debate.

"Israel is Our Home" called the vote "an important decision that will enable the citizens of Israel to know who really stands behind the bodies that... regularly support terror organizations, including open support for Hizbullah during the Second Lebanon War and for Hamas during Operation Cast Lead."

Far-left MK Dov Henin (Hadash) reacted sharply to the decision, calling the proposed commission of inquiry "a political tribunal specifically intended to investigate political activity." Invoking the name of Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was prominent in the 1940s-50s campaign against communism in the US, Henin called the commission "a complete copy of the anti-democratic program that blackened the pages of American history."

Labor MK Daniel Ben Simon proclaimed that "Israel is not immune to the anti-democratic and racist virus." He predicted that soon, "work camps" will be established to hold leftists. (What an idiot!)

Second committee to look into land purchases
The Knesset also voted 38:17 to establish a second committee of inquiry, regarding the organizations and individuals that are behind the purchase of land in Israel. The proposal was put forth by MK Danny Danon (Likud) after numerous reports that hostile elements with foreign funding were engaged in buying up land from Jews. "My friends in the left , as the song says - sometimes the party ends," Danon said.

MK Danon taunted leftist MKs who shouted at him during his speech, telling them "I can see the panic in your eyes."

As reported by Israel national News
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/141559

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jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 06:13

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I have trouble understanding how something that is voted by a majority of elected representants may be a danger for democracy. It that was so, would they be reelected next time? Then, what do we have to fear? Leftists would probably win in a landslide in the next election and they would solve Israel's troubles in a wink.

I have also trouble understanding how non-political NGOs can consider that investigating them is a political move. Isn't such a statement contradictory? Or maybe these NGOs are more political than they wish to say?

Of course, maybe they have something to hide. Maybe the simple fact that they receive big money from various sources, behind which are perhaps hidden some countries not really at the left-wing side, but with a clear political agenda, such as the delegitimisation of the state of Israel.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 07:12

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Having trouble sleeping, Posner?


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 07:14

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RIP the " Western Style Democracy " myth

no one rally believed it anyway


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 07:28

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Where is Posner, Myopic Iris? When does he wake up and how do you know that? Do you sleep with him? Does he haunt your nights?

RIP the " Western Style Democracy " myth
no one rally believed it anyway

Interesting to see than when "lawfare" applies to Wheelchair's friends, it is no more democratic! LOL!
Wheelchair, you have to realise that "lawfare" is a weapon that can be turned against those who use it against Israel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/05/AR201101...

Polls show that cracking down on the Israeli human rights groups has considerable sympathy among Israelis.


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 09:22

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"Polls show that cracking down on the Israeli human rights groups has considerable sympathy among Israelis."

That ells us an awful lot more about the current condition of Israeli society than it does about democracy

western democracy does not mean the tyranny of the majority


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 09:39

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Actually, Jon I Cohen, to quote the Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin, not a "trendy lefty" but a Herut hardline ideologue from old school, this committee reminds him of show trials and is part of a "dark wave" passing through Israel.
Let them have their McCarthyite committee (I am not now nor have I ever been...), but let them remember also check the foreign funding of the settlers and Im Tirzu -- from John Hagee, the man who said Hitler was heaven-sent.


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 09:40

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Rivlin is a Likud ideologue from old school Herut, sorry about the confusion. I hope real Zionists will condemn this McCarthyism.


Yoni1

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 09:45

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Millibrain talks nonsense as usual. Nobody is shutting them up, only looking into their FUNDING (ask your remedial teacher to explain this word to you).


Yoni1

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 09:46

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And Millis, too. What a pair of idiots.


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 09:51

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And Jon-i-Cohen, only countries which have something to hide investigate human rights groups. Countries like North Korea and Burma.


Jon_i_Cohen

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 11:30

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Joe Millis is mistaken about John Hagee.

Hagee has an entire web site devoted to Christian Evangelical support For Israel and has raised and donated in excess of $6 million to causes in Israel.

http://www.jhm.org/ME2/Sites/dirmod.asp?sid=&type=gen&mod=Core+Pages&gid...

The next Hagee pro-Israel meeting:- January 2011
"A NIGHT TO HONOR ISRAEL" Alburquerque, New Mexico

Joe Millis is mistaken about trying to align Israel with, North Korea and Burma.

As Yoni has already stated no-one is trying to silence the left-wingers, Israel is a democracy and they have the right to say what they like.
No-one listens any more as the left have "had their day".

This investigation is about their funding. We are fed up to the back teeth with political opposition on the extreme left being funded by Israel's enemies and groups that fund Arab causes, this is being investigated and will be stopped in due course.


Jon_i_Cohen

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 11:40

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The Party Ends - The Left Have Had Their Day


mattpryor

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 11:44

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I am sick of hearing left-wingers complaining about being "silenced". They don't ever shut up.

Speaking out against Israel is easy-peezy and risk free (other than to your reputation - but you only have yourself to blame for making idiotic comments).


Jonathan Hoffman

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 11:45

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well said Matt


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:09

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I am most encouraged that a true Zionist like Reuven Rivlin of the Herut wing of the Likud thinks that this is crazy and part of a "dark wave" going through Israel. No doubt other decent true Zionists, such as Benny Begin and Dan Meridor, will condemn this McCarthyist nonsense.
I note with interest that this move was proposed by a hitherto unheard-of Russian-born MK for Yisrael Beiteinu. It seems the ghost of Uncle Joe Stalin is alive and kicking, as it were.
I also note that the leader of that party was described by a Kremlin person (albeit on WikiLeaks) as "one of us". Explains a lot.
Whatever next? Purges? Show trials? Doctors' plots?
As to Hagee:

In his book Jerusalem Countdown, Hagee claims that Adolf Hitler was born from a lineage of "accursed, genocidally murderous half-breed Jews."

Hagee has also written:

"It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God's chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day... Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of antisemitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.... it rises from the judgment of God upon his rebellious chosen people."

No Zionist should ever justify anti-Semitism, even in defence of Israel.
It's the start of a slippery slope.Real Zionists don't let Israel slide down slippery slopes. Real Zionists point out when there's a drunk at the helm of Israel's ship of state.
Anyone supporting this move is not a real Zionist and doesn't have Israel's best interests at heart.
To paraphrase Heaven 17, "Israel Does Not Need This Fascist Grove Thang".


mattpryor

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:13

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Jonathan: Telegramsam had an obsession with Hagee as well didn't he?

Hmmm.


mattpryor

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:19

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And we know that they use Wikipedia to smear people.


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:21

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Again this obsession with a T Rex song. What have you got against it, MattPryor? How about something else from the glam era, like David Bowie's Life on Mars? Or Roxy Music's Street Life?
Or how about some Prog Rock? Yes's Starship Trouper comes to mind.
Personally, I'm more of a Led Zep/Pink Floyd/Clash fan.


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:23

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Not always, Matt. WikiLeaks showed Saudia Arabia's and the Gulf states' view of Iran and its leaders. Was that a smear too?


Joe Millis

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:27

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And why did I point up Haggee? Well, he is of dubious background and he has funded some right-wing groups. In wonder if they will be investigated/brought before the McCarthyite commission.
Also, remember what happened to Joe McCarthy and his sidekick, Roy Cohen.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:43

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Obviously, Jon I Cohen hasn't received his conversion skool schedule yet.


mattpryor

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 13:58

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Watchful Iris why do you attack those that would defend you? Bloody fool.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 15:11

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mattpryor you need to do some research about Pastor Hagee and get in line right behind Jon I Cohen.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 15:24

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Jonathan: Telegramsam had an obsession with Hagee as well didn't he?
Hmmm.

Why do you think he is now called Milligramsam? ;)


mattpryor

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 15:25

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I've never heard of Pastor Hagee and I have no particular interest in him. Joe Millis raised the subject.

You on the other hand are a very rude individual who always pops up to snipe at anyone who does not come here to post anti-Israel propaganda. I have never once seen you attack the anti-Semites here in the way you attack everyone else, and you particularly target those that actually bother to speak out in support of Israel.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 15:28

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western democracy does not mean the tyranny of the majority

Democracy is exactly the tiranny of the majority. Your 'democracy' is called "dictature". The dictature of those who think they are better than the majority. Most of the time, this is just a delusion: they are no better and even worse. That's leninism that ends in stalinism, and gulags for those who don't think like you. We already know your way: DEAD END!


jose (not verified)

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western democracy does not mean the tyranny of the majority

Democracy is exactly the tiranny of the majority. Your 'democracy' is called "dictature". The dictature of those who think they are better than the majority. Most of the time, this is just a delusion: they are no better and even worse. That's leninism that ends in stalinism, and gulags for those who don't think like you. We already know your way: DEAD END!


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 15:33

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Not always, Matt. WikiLeaks showed Saudia Arabia's and the Gulf states' view of Iran and its leaders. Was that a smear too?

You confused Wikipedia with WikiLeaks. Learn to read, Milligramsam.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 15:41

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And Jon-i-Cohen, only countries which have something to hide investigate human rights groups

I love when Milligramsam says such stupidities: France investigated a Cancer Research Association. Certainly even less politically-motivated than these pseudo-human rights groups (in fact political extremists in disguise).
The head of the Cancer Research Association was foung guilty of abusing donators' money in a number of ways: paying fake salaries to a girlfriend, whitewashing money with fake invoices, paying paper ten times the usual price and so on.

France has certainly something to hide, according to Milligramsam.

Then we have a country who has been at war for 63 years. Let's compare with treatment of people who collaborate with the enemy in time of war. Israel is, to say the least, very nice with the collaborators. Just checking if the funding doesn't come from countries that do not respect themselves human rights at all, such as Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, Lybia, Pakistan, etc.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:00

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You've never heard of Pastor Haggee? Now who's the ignorant fool? You really think those millions are free?


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:05

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You really think those millions are free?

And what about the billions Saudi Arabia and Iran distribute to HAMAS and Hezbollah? Free too?

But Myopic Iris doesn't care about these, because they are well-used to serve the 'Cause'.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:10

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That's not the point, Posner. Haggee believes all Jews have to convert to Christianity to be redeemed. Are you planning to do that?


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:21

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Or just take his money and run ?


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:26

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I mean who would take take billions of dollars from someone who believed you were going to hell unless you accept jesus as your saviour the guy is nuts get real for freaking hell's sake


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:27

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come to think of it I probably would I did say billions didn't I ?


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:28

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That's not the point, Posner

Where is Posner, Myopic? Show your delusions to all, please.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:28

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That's not the point, Posner

Where is Posner, Myopic? Show your delusions to all, please.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:30

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Haggee believes all Jews have to convert to Christianity to be redeemed.

Well, Iran petrodollars believe there will be 72 virgins waiting for Hezbollah martyrs. And they are willing to thake the money. Why don't you spend one second of your time criticising them?


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:32

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come to think of it I probably would I did say billions didn't I ?

Yes, no doubt beer has effects in the long run.


mattpryor

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:32

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Haggee believes all Jews have to convert to Christianity to be redeemed

On the other hand there are people that Hagee is trying to defend you from, who believe that you have to convert to a certain other religion to avoid being murdered.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:33

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'Cuz they haven't found 72 virgins yet?


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:35

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maybe because they were looking in Essex and not heaven ?


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:37

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Hey what've you got against Essex girls?


Armchair Quarterback

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:37

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well some of my very best casual aquaintances were Essex girls


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:42

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'Cuz they haven't found 72 virgins yet?

Ask them, not me. I believe they are religious nuts and that fairy tale is not for grown-ups, but for your ilk.
But when money is given with a fairy tale, the important is that it does not force you to believe in the fairy tale.
It is evident Israel does not believe in Hagee's fairy tales. But it is also evident that Hezbollah terrorists believe in Iran's fairy tales.

So make your choice.


jose (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:43

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well some of my very best casual aquaintances were Essex girls

Very casual, then.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 17:24

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Posner, there are no rules here that say one has to reply to each and every post whether they're directed at same one or not. So, take a load off...have a beverage...visit your mother...do a crossword...or even just take a few deep breaths...before you blow a gasket. BTW, do you crash weddings and funerals?


amber

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 17:28

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armchair, I guess that's your intellectual level.


amber

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iris and armchair, two vociferous Israel hating antisemites, are worried about Hagee.

What a farce.

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