The Coalition Government and Holocaust education

Matthew what will it take for you to get it ? No one cares about the lib dems and the " coalition " . Nick cleggs first choice desert island disc " puppet on a string.

The radical kids that represented the lib dems grassroots base have flown the coup and taken refuge in either depression or anarchism. ( in some cases both )

Matthew after all those years of Tony Bliar Nick Clegg is just one liar too far

Matthew you have two rational options. One...stay and help wrest back the lib dems as a radical party with a differance. Two...bugger off elsewhere.

My guess is you will stick with the irrational option and stick with the coalition bullchit. After all you have four and a half years of comfortable la la la land and as John Maynard Keynes said " in the long run we are all dead " . Enjoy your fantasies but please, in the meantime, spare us the bull chit

Matthew, you can see that even Armchair doesn't buy it. Must be very bad propaganda, since he buys every cheap one.

Words are cheap for Clegg

He would deny Israel the means to defend itself - if Israel had been created ten years earlier, how many lives might have been saved?

For as long as Jihad Jenny is in the Party, Clegg's credibility on Jewish issues is zero.

Matthew, how can you believe in the honesty of a party which includes a Tonge and doesn't even search how to expel her, on Holocaust education?

I mean, you cannot be that naive!

And anyway, it is utterly impossible to remove Holocaust education, except if WW II is totally removed from the program as if it never existed.

So there was no risk that Holocaust would be removed and all parties would have done that alike. Matthew does not understand that this is not a matter of politics.

It would be atrocious to remove it from the national curriculum.

Anti-Semitism is a big problem in Britain today and it needs to be stamped out as an urgent priority. Much more effort needs to be made by the state to educate first and second generation immigrants about happened. Not just in schools, in universities, Mosques and community centres.

(and speaking of anti-Semitism I'm waiting to hear Tonge's calls for a UN investigation into alleged organ trafficking by the Kosovan government!)

"(and speaking of anti-Semitism I'm waiting to hear Tonge's calls for a UN investigation into alleged organ trafficking by the Kosovan government!)"

Matt,
Perhaps Matthew Harris will take this up with the Party?

Any time any body says anything pro-Israeli, Jonathan Hoffman says: "It is easy for him to say that - words are cheap." This suggests that Jonathan would prefer people to stop communicating with "words" and use some other, non-verbal form of communication instead. Perhaps he would like people to start making their points through mime, with balloon animals as visual aids?

Me, I'll stick to using words to communicate...

Me, I'll stick to using words to communicate...

Maybe Jonathan would like you to stop using empty slogans and start communicating... Start with communicating us the date of the expulsion of Tonge.

I'll just fetch my balloon pump...

MatthewHarris
I fail to understand what some of the posts above are complaining about. Do they want Holocaust education to cease or what? It is just pathetic wingeing.

Do they want Holocaust education to cease or what? It is just pathetic wingeing.

Maybe you didn't notice but none of the parties said they would cease Holocaust education. So boasting that the LibDems 'saved' the Holocaust education is totally ridiculous.

I'm not surprised that you did not understand it.

I'll just fetch my balloon pump...

Try the cristal ball instead.

Yehuda: Matthew posts here as a representative for the Liberal Democrats so why can people not put their point of view across to him? I am extremely angry about this and I'm a British tax payer. It is a disgrace that Baroness Tongue is still in a privileged position of authority and representing the Liberal Democrats. A person who gave credence to the blood libel and thinks the way to deal with terrorists is to bargain with them. What kind of message does that send to people about the party that is currently in government? She should not even be in politics. People can't even vote her out since she's a life peer (I have no idea why by the way after serving one term as an MP).

I don't see what is wrong with people expressing their discontent about this. Jonathan is absolutely correct: As long as Tonge remains in the party Nick Clegg can say whatever he likes, it will not make people trust him.

Good news just in: Nick Clegg supports the continued ban on sending children up chimneys.

Not so good news: Matthew Harris is going to write a JC blog article about it.

Good news just in: Nick Clegg supports the continued ban on sending children up chimneys.

Yes, but does he support the continued ban on sending Tonge to the LibDem garbage bin?

As far as I'm concerned Clegg publicly slagged off our friend and ally (when they needed support) in the hope of courting Muslim votes, and changed his mind when he thought his position was more likely to lose Jewish votes than win Muslim ones. And he is just as likely to change his mind again depending on the electoral situation. To use issues of vital international and national importance as throw-away election gimmicks is cynical and extremely dangerous.

He is the worst kind of politician, devoid of values or principles and willing to say anything if it keeps him in power. Although this was pretty obvious during his performance in the leadership debates, although amazingly some people were fooled.

The fact that people like Tonge are still in the party just confirms it - Liberal Democrats have no principles and will say whatever it takes to get elected.

Which I suppose makes Clegg the ideal leader.

mattpryor
I also dislike Tonge intensely but there is no direct connection with this post. If people want to distrust Clegg, a far more pertinent issue is the raising of University fees after the Lib Dems vowed not to. However you are perfectly right that people are entitled to express their views but it would help the debate if they also tried to stick to the point of the original post. This one was on holocaust education.

Wow, Yehuda 'dislikes' Jihad Jenny 'intensely'. Give the man a cigar.

Now, is the schools minister going to do something meaningful about antisemitic propaganda in Islamic schools? Yes or no?

Oops, forgot, LibDems don't answer substantive questions. That would merely reveal even more clearly (if such a thing were possible) their massive cowardice, hypocrisy and mendacity.

Yehuda you are right, I was off topic, and merely ranting.

Holocaust education - more of it please. Not just in schools. And Holocaust denial (or "revisionism" as is the current euphemism) should be illegal in the UK.

Matthew

Has Jihad Jenny called for an investigation into allegations that the Prime Minister of Kosovo ran a gang engaged in organ trafficking?

Surely she does only care about such allegations if they involve Israelis? Because that would be antisemitic - wouldn't it Matthew?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/liberaldemocrats/722...