Riots in Egypt (cont'd)

29 January, 2011 - 16:41

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those triumphalist obstructionists in Israel may shortly be wishing they had taken up the comprehensive sell-out of the Palestinians' interests, cravenly offered by the PA's bogus and entirely illegitimate 'leadership' negotiators over the last few years.

I’d say that’s going to look like a pretty unbeatable deal if the Egyptian regime disintegrates and is replaced by a new regime that reflects the views of the man in the Egyptian street. you can forget about that new Egypt doing the bidding of the US and Israel. you can forget about the tunnels being shut down - in fact you can forget all together about the egypt/gaza border being closed. and you can forget about continued Egyptian support for a bankrupt, corrupt, and entirely undemocratic/unelected PA.

and while we are at it, following recent disclosures, lets hope there is a similar uprising across the west bank. one that will sweep away the useless collaborators, and bring in a proper democratic govt that reflects the will of the Palestinians, and institutes an environment in the occupied territories that makes Israel pay the proper price for its illegal occupation Palestinian land.

all together - a very good week.

29 January, 2011 - 16:56

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"those triumphalist obstructionists in Israel"

Sheesh, yet another new braindead Jew-hater.

"the PA's bogus and entirely illegitimate 'leadership' negotiators"

ROFL. Some ignorant student in his stinking bedsit in Tooting, who has never even been to ME and has nil connection to it, is telling the PA who is and who isn't 'legitimate'.
Newflash: you don't tell them who to appoint. They are not in the business of pleasing some idiot in Tooting. Got it? Good. Now piss off.

Robert Snodgrass

29 January, 2011 - 17:18

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"all together - a very good week"

Funny isn't it, anything that anti-semites see as being potentially negative for Israel's existence is seen as good.

Well Steve, if your reading from your bedsit in tooting, Israel has overcome much worse situations then this. I think the Arabs have a lot more to worry about then Israel right now, considering there are half a dozen countries in the area on the verge of civil war.

One final thing, the reason Egypt has peace with Israel is because it is essential t for them. The people of Egypt have never liked having 'peace' with Israel but have had no choice but to tolerate it. They remember how close we came to taking over the whole of Egypt in 1973 and they will be wary to ensure we never have the opportunity to do it again, hence why a peace with Israel is essential to them.

Thank you for your ignorant and completely THICK comment, i needed a good laugh tonight and it didnt half make me chuckle, heres laughing at you thicky.

kind regards

29 January, 2011 - 18:38

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robert snodgrass:

Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel because the US bribed them into it, and has bribed them anually since to stay with it (current bribe value $1.5 billion). Israel taking over the whole of egypt in 73!!!! wow - i note since my last visit to this site, that the quality of military historian has slipped a little - the idea is preposterous. Israel couldn't even occupy southern lebanon for more that a week in 2006 - and could not stop the rockets.

Wake up all you zionists out there - the game is changing! all those banana republic arab client states of the US will be tumbling like dominoes soon. and if the peoples of the arab states have any say in the new politics, Israel is in huge trouble. 9 months ago, i forecast that Israel may have a new Iran on its southern borders before too much longer - i may have to go into the fortune telling business! best case scenario for israel, is that the changes there only result in an opening of the gaza border, and removal of support for the PA. The days of an Israel with tanks, planes, and artillery fighting an enemy with kalashnikovs and rpgs is coming to an end.

You have a re-armed Hezbollah in Lebanon (heading the govt for gods sake!), Hamas will soon be running the show in the west bank, and you will have lost your only ally in the arab world. Guess you guys should have made peace with the palestinians when you had the chance eh?

29 January, 2011 - 18:50

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"Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel because the US bribed them into it, and has bribed them anually since to stay with it (current bribe value $1.5 billion)"

Interesting. Usually the antisemites whine about the aid Israel is getting. Now the argument is that Egypt is also receiving aid - and guess what, it's the fault of the nasty Joos!

"Israel taking over the whole of egypt in 73!!!! wow - i note since my last visit to this site, that the quality of military historian has slipped a little - the idea is preposterous. Israel couldn't even occupy southern lebanon for more that a week in 2006 - and could not stop the rockets"

What a moron. Israel crossed the Suez canal in 1973 and was heading towards Cairo. Egypt begged the USSR to intervene, and the USSR threatened to do so. That's what saved Egypt's bacon.

"Wake up all you zionists out there - the game is changing! all those banana republic arab client states of the US will be tumbling like dominoes soon"

They were client states of the USSR in the 1950s. And your point?

"The days of an Israel with tanks, planes, and artillery fighting an enemy with kalashnikovs and rpgs is coming to an end."

LOL. What a moron. Syria and Egypt had a lot more than Kalashnikovs and RPGs in 1973.

"you will have lost your only ally in the arab world"

Remind us how many allies Israel had in the Arab world in 1973, idiot?

"Guess you guys should have made peace with the palestinians when you had the chance eh?"

LOL. What a loser.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:02

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Israel couldn't even occupy southern lebanon for more that a week in 2006 - and could not stop the rockets.

Hummm... Remember what happened in June 1967?
Egypt's situation is very bad. You see, there are two main resources for Egypt: the Suez Canal and tourism. An islamist government would mean the end of the latter and a war with Israel the end of the former and the end of US aid to Egypt.
With Egypt's economy laying in ruins, what would be the interest of Israel to occupy it? The islamist government would lead Egypt to civil war very quickly. And Israel would be very quiet on this side. In fact, it could do anything it wants in Gaza without anyone caring for the HAMAS terrorists.

Of course we, Zionists, don't like wars, unlike you. So we don't wish it. But we don't fear the outcome, just the avoidable deaths.

29 January, 2011 - 19:04

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abbott, I am proud to be a Zionist - the term simply means belief in a Jewish homeland.

It is simply racist to be "anti-Zionist" - it means you don't believe the Jewish People have the right to self-determination.

29 January, 2011 - 19:05

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abbot - it's altogether, not all together.

That's all we need - another thicko with big opinions.

29 January, 2011 - 19:06

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Well, Amber, you can't expect a low-IQ antisemite like Abbott to understand that, can you now?

29 January, 2011 - 19:06

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abbott, the Israeli presence in Judea and Samaria is not "illegal".

29 January, 2011 - 19:06

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abbott, would you be happy with the Muslim Brotherhood taking control in Egypt?

29 January, 2011 - 19:07

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That was in reference to the Zionism post, Amber.

29 January, 2011 - 19:09

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jews have a homeland - within the 67 borders. stop trying to steal the palestinian homeland outside those borders. then you can have peace - if you dont leave it too much longer, and poison the minds of those remaining, who still believe in peace.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:14

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jews have a homeland - within the 67 borders

'Palestinians' also have a homeland: Jordan, three times as big as the 1949 Israel, while they are hardly more than Israelis. They attacked Israel in 1948, then in 1967 and 1973, and refuse to make peace. They elected Nazi terrorists freely in 2007. Why do you support Nazi terrorists? Are you a Nazi yourself?

jandrsimonson

29 January, 2011 - 19:14

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look Israel and the Egyptian regime are not so different. They are two pieces in the puzzle of dependent American client states in the middle east. One falls....domino theory

Steve You and I need to have a little chat

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:21

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They are two pieces in the puzzle of dependent American client states in the middle east. One falls....domino theory

You are really an economy ignoramus. Israel's economy is thriving and it is a democracy. Egypt is a military dictature whose economy is dependent on two specific sectors: Suez Canal and tourism. One is attacked by terrorists and as soon as they get hold of the Canal, it will not be of any use to them.

Israel will survive the troubles in Egypt. But will Egypt?

It is interesting to see that antisemites do not care about Muslims who get killed by other Muslims, isn't it?
Did any of them regret what is happening in Egypt? No! They are just hoping it can be bad for Israel.
With such friends, Muslims don't need enemies!

jandrsimonson

29 January, 2011 - 19:24

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Failing that don't feed the animals say your piece then shut up don't engage with them

29 January, 2011 - 19:38

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jose:

israel is not currently a democracy. while it occupies the west bank it is an aparthied state. south africa was not a democracy and nor is israel while the occupation continues. either get out, or give all west bankers the vote in a single state. you cant have it both ways.

29 January, 2011 - 19:40

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jose:

palestinians live where they live - the west bank of palestine, not jordan. population transfer is a crime against humanity. has israel sunk to that as a policy?

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:47

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palestinians live where they live - the west bank of palestine, not jordan.

Abbott, you're an ignoramus: 'Palestinians' (a fiction since they are mostly Arab colons from Greater Syria, Iraq and other countries) are a majority in Jordan. Jordan is three times the surface of Israel of 1949 and more than six times as much as the inhabitable space in Israel. How many times bigger the 'Palestinians' want their country to be?
The fact is they don't want ANY Israel at all. That is why they elected Nazi terrorists when they got the opportunity to do it.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:47

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palestinians live where they live - the west bank of palestine, not jordan.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:50

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israel is not currently a democracy. while it occupies the west bank it is an aparthied state.

Abbott, you're an ignoramus. Israel is a democracy. Non-Israeli citizens do not vote in Israel as non-French citizens to not vote in France. 'Palestinians' (a fiction) have their own elections. Usually, they elect Nazi terrorists at their head. Then, they wonder how to get rid of them.
Are you a Nazi yourself?

29 January, 2011 - 19:55

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jose:

you clearly demonsrate by your arguments that you may be a prime candidate for the term 'nazi'. if the cap fits you should wear it - though with shame not pride.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:56

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you clearly demonsrate by your arguments that you may be a prime candidate for the term 'nazi'.

Your support of Nazi terrorists makes you undoubtedly the less qualifed to call anyone that.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 19:58

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Abbott supports war crimes, blood libels, and Nazi terrorists. We have a clear case of a Nazi here.
Considering he was banned from the site long ago (although he was there under another pseudo), I suggest to terminate this clown again.

29 January, 2011 - 20:01

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jose:

you may find comfort in using the word 'terrorist' to define those palestinians and lebanese who resist the depradations of the israeli terrorist military. others of us prefer the words 'freedom fighter'.

and please dont forget that the very fact hamas and hezbollah even exist, is due solely to israeli aggression and failure to negotiate a just peace.

29 January, 2011 - 20:03

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jose:

terminate? you cant shut me down warmonger - we are not in the west bank here. unlike israel - this forum is democratic.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 20:06

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you may find comfort in using the word 'terrorist' to define those palestinians and lebanese who resist the depradations of the israeli terrorist military. others of us prefer the words 'freedom fighter'.

Stupids use stupid words. No freedom fighter ever suicided in a Munich pub full of civilians during WW II. They attacked military targets and when there was civilian casualties, that was despite and not because of them.

HAMAS and Hezbollah are Nazi terrorists (antisemitic and genocidal). You support them because you are a Nazi yourself.

We know who fails to negotiate peace: 'Palestinians' (a fiction, remember). They rejected steadily any direct talks for years under any excuse.

jose (not verified)

29 January, 2011 - 20:09

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terminate? you cant shut me down

Really? We shall see that. Remember: you wanted war, so you are the warmonger.

we are not in the west bank here.

You mean Judea Samaria? We've never seen a river bank 40 km wide, remember?

this forum is democratic.

As any democracy, it has limits to the tolerance of Nazis like you. You were once banned, remember? And obviously, you didn't learn the lessons.

jose (not verified)

30 January, 2011 - 06:08

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So we have simonsam and steveabbott, self-declared Nazis who don't care a damn about any other people.
The only thing that could be of interest to them is not the protection of any civilian, and they couldn't care less about 'Palestinian' civilians.
The only thing that is of interest to them is whether it can be blamed on the Jews in general and on Israel in particular.

Therefore, they don't care about Egyptian civilians getting killed, they don't care about HAMAS or Fatah killing 'Palestinian' civilians, they don't care about Hezbollah killing Israeli Arabs, let alone Israeli Jews.

Great humanitarians!

30 January, 2011 - 07:58

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"jews have a homeland - within the 67 borders"

There are no '67 borders, ignorant Nazi.

"stop trying to steal the palestinian homeland outside those borders"

There are no 'Palestinians', hence no 'Palestinian homeland'.

"then you can have peace - if you dont leave it too much longer, and poison the minds of those remaining, who still believe in peace"

Nazis like you, you mean?
Israel wasn't in J&S in 67 - and was attacked.
Piss off, Nazi.