"Plan B"


By Kahina
January 10, 2011
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Israel's foreign minister has his 'Plan B' in response to impasse in talks with Palestinians. His proposal would avoid diplomatic stagnation while simultaneously skirting the conflict's core issues. The annual conference of Israeli ambassadors were told yesterday that the plan is now undergoing final revisions, but is basically submission-ready.

"Even if we offered the Palestinians Tel Aviv and a retreat to the 1947 borders, they would find a reason not to sign a peace agreement," he said in his speech. "The PA has an illegitimate government that isn't holding elections. We must not reach a [final-status] agreement with them."

The diplomatic plan is intended as an interim agreement with the Palestinians. He has already presented the general outlines to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and intends to give him the full plan soon. He would like to see it approved by both the "septet" of seven key ministers and the diplomatic-security cabinet so that it can be presented to Washington in the coming months as Israel's official position.

Lieberman expects the Obama administration to resume pressing Israel on the Palestinian issue once the winter holidays end, and it will want to know what Israel's diplomatic plan is. Plan B is aimed at avoiding a situation of diplomatic stagnation while also skirting the conflict's core issues.

Behind closed doors, the foreign minister has said the plan is meant "to bring the peace process down to earth." He believes there is no chance of reaching a final-status agreement in the coming years, especially on the issues of Jerusalem and refugees.

Given both the deep disputes within Israel's governing coalition and the huge gaps between Israel and the PA, an interim agreement is the only possible solution, he told the diplomats.

"In the current political situation, I don't think it's possible to find a common denominator between [Shas chairman] Eli Yishai and [Labor chairman] Ehud Barak or between me and [dovish Likud minister] Dan Meridor, or even within Likud, between [ministers] Benny Begin and Michael Eitan," he explained. "In the existing political circumstances, it's not possible to present a diplomatic plan for a final-status agreement, because the coalition will simply no longer exist."

Lieberman's plan would significantly increase security cooperation between Israel and the PA, in order to further stabilize the West Bank and gradually transfer more security responsibilities to the Palestinians. It would also increase Palestinian freedom of movement in the West Bank and take other steps aimed at significantly improving the PA's economy, with the goal of eventually raising the West Bank's per capita gross domestic product to $20,000 a year.

Once the PA's economy is roughly on a par with Israel's, he argues, it will be easier to reach a final-status agreement.

But it is unclear whether the plan, which he has yet to show to any foreign official, includes turning additional parts of the West Bank over to PA control or evacuating illegal settlement outposts.

If Netanyahu rejects Lieberman's Plan B, the foreign minister intends to demand that Netanyahu publicly present his final-status plan and submit it to a referendum. "If the prime minister's plan for a final-status agreement wins a sweeping public majority, I'll accept that," an associate quoted him as saying.

The septet also met yesterday to discuss the growing trend among Latin American countries toward recognizing a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders, as well as the PA's efforts to get the UN Security Council to pass a resolution denouncing the settlements.

According to the senior Foreign Ministry source, the ministry has been devising a series of sanctions Israel could apply should the PA continue pushing such unilateral moves, ranging from restricting PA activity in the West Bank to annexing territory there.

(Haaretz)

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Armchair Quarterback

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 03:27

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Lets hope for Israel's sake Plan C is going back to work as a bouncer


jose (not verified)

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 04:45

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Yes, Wheelchair. Plan "C" is economical non-cooperation with 'Palestinians'. I think this one is a much better one than Lieberman's plan "B".


Armchair Quarterback

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 08:12

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Well when he does go back to being a bouncer, Posner, I am sure they will invite you to be foriegn minister. From what we have seen from Lieberman and your hysterics on here you seem to have all the qualifications. You can then implement your Plan C and we can all have a good laugh

Don't worry about not living in Israel , Lieberman doesn't either


Kahina

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 09:28

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Lieberman is a plain talker. He says what everyone is thinking, but in our PC world doesn't have the guts to say.

If new elections were to take place, polling strongly suggests that Likud and affiliated parties would gain seats. Yisrael Beitenu will gain 3 seats. Here is a sample poll, from Dec. 5, 2010, with current parliamentary seats in brackets:

32 [27] Likud
26 [28] Kadima
18 [15] Yisrael Beiteinu
08 [13] Labor
09 [11] Shas
05 [05] Yahadut Hatorah
03 [03] Jewish Home/NRP
02 [03] Meretz
04 [04] National Union
03 [00] Centrist party headed by Yair Lapid
10 [11] Arab parties

Doing the arithmetic, the coalition parties that now control 61 seats would, if these figures come true, control 67 seats in a new Knesset. And regretfully down 1 seat for Meretz. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Source: http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=50170


Armchair Quarterback

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 09:49

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" plain talker " is a well used euphemism for.....

if what lieberman is saying is what everyone else is thinking then israel is in way bigger trouble than any of us even fearted

In no other civilised country could such a person find themselves in high office elsewhere in the civilised world such people are uually employed as...well bouncers


Joe Millis

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:00

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Not so fast, Kahina. If and when Lieberman is charged with whatever the police want to charge him with (it's now down to the attorney general whether to charge), his party is likely to fall apart. This happens a lot in Israeli politics. Shas fell from 17 to 11 MKs after the Deri era. Shinui crashed and burned after Tommy Lapid quit. And does anyone remember Tzomet after the departure of Rafael Eitan?
They say that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel and in Lieberman's case this has been proved in spades.


Kahina

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:21

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Why doesn't politics attract squeaky clean people? They all have skeletons in the closets. Is there going to be anyone they can't dig some mud on?

Well if Lieberman goes, then I guess it'll be over to Danny Ayalon to lead the party.

Never a dull moment!


Joe Millis

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:29

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Danny Ayalon is an unknown in Israel. As are most of Lieberman's other lieutenants. And if they do appoint Ayalon as leader, the ex-Sov constituency isn't going to be impressed.
And anyway, comes a time in Israel that immigrant parties pass their sell-by dates. After about a decade, the immigrants become part of the host society, so they vote like the "natives". The host society's issues become their issues, too.
Did you know that in the 50s there was a Yemeni party? Doesn't exist now.


Yoni1

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:26

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"They say that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel"

An utterly stupid statement. No surprise, then, that you quote it.

Quarterdick, who thinks that Israel is not a civilised country, really really needs to see a doctor.


Joe Millis

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:27

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No doubt, Yoni1, your think is far more superior to that of Dr Johnson.


Armchair Quarterback

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:13

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Quarterdick, who thinks that Israel is not a civilised country, really really needs to see a doctor.

I gues reading just isn't your strong point Yonithan


Yoni1

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:35

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"your think is far more superior to that of Dr Johnson."

I don't know what language the above drivel is written in, but it is still the case that Johnson talked a lot of crap. I am not impressed by the name of whoever said something - I analyse the content. No doubt, this is too difficult for the hard of thinking such as yourself to grasp.


Yoni1

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:36

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"I gues reading just isn't your strong point Yonithan"

I guess grasping that I am not Yonithan is beyond the capacity of your 2 brain cells to understand.


mattpryor

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:40

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Joe Millis really does come out with some first class bollocks.


Yoni1

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:43

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Indeed he does, Matt. Some of it is vaguely amusing, in a pathetic sort of way, but that is vastly outweighed by the merely pathetic.


Joe Millis

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:48

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Matt, your knowledge of Israeli politics is truly astounding. Almost as good as Yoni Ish-Hoff's appreciation of the subtleties of the English language and his desire to lower the tone of this blog and make a mockery of the JC.


Joe Millis

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:54

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Yoni Ish-Hoff, how much are you paying them to allow you to be so crude. Eventually they will grasp that you are making the JC blogs look stupid.


Joe Millis

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 13:57

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Why don't you go back to yelling inanities at anyone with whom you disagree? Better still, instead of kibitzing on the sidelines, why don't you just take your coterie of nutters and head up a new organisation, like the Judean People's Front?


jose (not verified)

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:03

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Milligramsam, whydo you indulge in paranoia? It is not the JC blogs that look stupid, but you.


Yoni1

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:29

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Can't handle factual statements, Millis?
Why am I not surprised.


Anonymous

Mon, 01/10/2011 - 15:55

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