Petition for an International Peace Keeping Force in the Gaza Strip


By Aaron16
January 6, 2011
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Below is a link to an online petition (gunning for 500 signatures) that suggests to create an International Peace Keeping Force in the Gaza Strip.

Even though Baroness Ashton has outrightly dismissed the idea, I believe (as i'm sure a lot of you do), that such a force would help the people of Gaza to rebuild their lives, would help improve the Palestinian economy, would decrease Palestinian hatred for Israel, would increase the safety of Israelis living in Southern Israel and would allow for opening of borders so that people can walk about in peace - and that's coming from a Jewish perspective in Jerusalem. If the government of our country (G.B.) is willing to put our troops in unnecessary danger in Afghanistan - and has any ounce of compassion for human rights - surely, this is an option that cannot simply be ignored?

I hope as many of you will sign and circulate this as is possible. With regards to you all,

Aaron Cohen-Gold

http://middleeast.epetitions.net/

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Advis3r

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 22:21

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As an israeli who is against the ideas of anyone other than my country and its defence forces protecting me from terrorist attacks I am sorry to say that this is a completely naive idea. In effect it would be a peace keeping force to protect Hamas and the other terrorist organisations camped out in Gaza allowing them to carry on building up their arms caches in the certain knowledge that Israel will be powerless to cross into Gaza to root out its terrorist cells following the inevitable attacks behind the shield of a peace keeping force (see UNIFIL in Lebanon) for fear of killing/injuring troops of a friendly nation. I hope people will not support this misguided suggestion however well intentioned it may be.


Yoni1

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 22:29

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Well said, Advis3r.


Yoni1

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 22:29

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Well said, Advis3r.


Yoni1

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 22:29

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Well said, Advis3r.


Yoni1

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 22:29

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Well said, Advis3r.


amber

Fri, 01/07/2011 - 00:11

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How would such a force protect anyone - and from what?

Absurd.


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/07/2011 - 07:14

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Given the fact that UNIFIL and even NATO forces will be soon driven out of the country they 'protect' (from what, in Lebanon?), this is ridiculous and leftie-driven propaganda.

Thte fact is that UN forces are a joke that cannot even prevent a war. When asked by one of the parties, they flee in order.
Let's remember the pre-1967 months, when Nasser expelled them to be able to attack Israel again.
Israel did not count on UN to protect it then, and won the war.
Since then, the UN was considered very badly around the world, with some reason. Freedom is not earned by submission to the UN. It is earned by fighting for it and against those who want to submit to the dictators. At all times.


jose (not verified)

Fri, 01/07/2011 - 14:03

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It seems nevertheless that the petition is not especially "leftie" (it lacks the unilateral condemnations of Israel) but simply utopic, not in the goal, but in the means recommended to reach those goals.


Aaron16

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:16

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Okay so let me respond to several of the comments - and complaints - in the above responses.

The first thing to say is that it is disappointing to see people blindly commenting saying that this is a 'typical' piece of lefist propaganda. If anyone cares to look at ANY of the other articles I have blogged on here over the last 2 and a half years, you will soon find out that there are not many more certain and strong believers in Israel, its recreation and in much - if not all - of the actions it takes.

Furthermore, in terms of it being 'leftist', I couldn't disagree more. Are people telling me that Avigdor Leiberman, Foreign Minister and leader of the extremely right wing political party called Yisrael Beitaneu, is a leftist propagandist? He, according to Sky News and Baroness Ashton, unofficially offered to end the blockade of the Gaza strip if an International Force of some kind were to control the borders of the Gaza strip. He believed this would be an effecient way of aiding Israel's security needs. The link to this is here:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Europe-Rejects-Israels-Offer...

Clearly then, to thoughtlessly brand something as a Leftist piece of propaganda simply because you disagree with it, is as wrong as those who religiously throw the same old slogans at us week in, week out simply for believing in Israels existence. Let's not sink to their lows - lets try and be the open minded people that reform Jews all over our country claim to be.

Next thing to say: I do not believe this is a Utopic way of achieving the goals set out; in short, the descent of peace onto all Israel. Were it to be a Leftist and Utopic - thus not mainstream in any sense - it would not have been suggested by countries such as France, the US, Britain and now Israel over the last decade. In terms of it's ability to achieve the ultimate goal of peace (unless people sadly thing peace for Israel is in itself is a utopic ideal - which is exactly the wrong approach and one that will keep our people locked in further conflict for another 60 years), there is obviously no garuntee it would work; where are there any garuntees in the post modern, political world that we live in today? Having lived in Israel (in response to the first comment) for several months now - and with the intention to live here in Jerusalem for the best part of the upcoming year - the situation in and around our country cannot get much worse. True, another Intifada could rise up at any moment or war could break out with any number of groups or countries in the next months, but surely that indicates the need for a change of approach? Where is the sense in saying that something isn't working, but since we are still alive, lets keep going with it? Surely that shows a complete disregard for those on the front line of the conflict, Palestinian and Israeli alike? What is Jewish and democratic about that?
Surely, the Israeli soldier killed in friendly fire this morning - along with the 4 Palestinians killed in Gaza in the last week - illustrate this point.
The need for change is obvious - and the increasing economic prosperity of places such as Ramallah and Bethlehem have resulted in a massive decline in violence in trouble in those respective parts of the West Bank over the last year or so. Why not, just for now at least, consider that sociological fact that the prosperity of any group of people is one of the deciding factors in the degree of conflict, both internal and external. Why not listen to the needs of both peoples involved and be a tad more open minded and Jewish about the situation we find ourselves in, as opposed to sit back and ignore the needs and wishes of others. When I speak to Palestinians my age who feel put in prison by Israel (obviously something i disagree with)and beaten up by Hamas from within, it is impossible to ignore that something has to change from their perspective as well as ours - and I don't just mean politically, since we can see that as things stand at the moment, Israels and Egypts blockade is not changing their politics. Lets try something else. Lets be open minded about this conflict and try to see the RIGHTS as well as the wrongs of BOTH sides.

I say this not as a 'Leftist' - but as a determined Zionist who believes that as someone who upholds my own right to self determination, we should go to all lengths to grant the same principle to another people. Let’s be fair and equal about this, that’s the least we should be – as Jews and as Zionists. Shalom va Salam.


Aaron16

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:23

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The other thing to say is that it is extremely disappointing to only see people referring to the The UN as if it were the only organisation I referred to. I spoke of many organisations -NATO included, who have the multinational experience of actually fighting wars and peacekeeping effectively in parts of Africa, Asia and south America. Again, open mindedness is of the utter most importance, lets not pretend as if Israel would have no influence over Gaza in my suggestion/petition. It blatantly would - and should, this isn't to be denied, just yet at least.


Aaron16

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:27

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And in response to the person who replied 'protect Israel from what' - or something along those lines - I think thats pretty obvious and self explanatory. the 8,000+ rockets and the little matter of the terrorist organisation that controls the territory would be a start. If you were referring to Palestinians - such a suggestion would decrease Israeli air strikes, increase reconstruction efforts, help (as a result) to increase employment in the region and, potentially - utopia perhaps - decrease (as a result) the bubbling and burning hatred of Israel. Just a thought. Maybe it may help with the wee war that is going on down here.


jose (not verified)

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:30

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Agreed, you're not a leftist. Yet, we all know what the UN is worth.
Did they prevent Hezbollah from rearming? No.
Could they prevent it from firing rocket on Israel? No.
Could they prevent an ambush of the Lebanese army against Tsahal, last year? No (one Israeli died as a result).
Could they destroy terrorist infrastructures? No.

Therefore, they wouldn't be able to prevent HAMAS from rearming, firing rockets at Israel's civilians and ambush Tsahal. What would be changed? Nothing, except that Israel would have to care one thing more: not to kill UN members while destroying terrorist infrastructures.

This is unnecessary. Better avoid involving the UN in this.


Yoni1

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:32

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"the extremely right wing political party called Yisrael Beitaneu"

Sigh ... anyone spouting the above nonsense IS a leftist. You have no idea what extreme right wing IS.


Aaron16

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:28

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Yoni1, I'm not going to get into a left v right discussion on a blogging sight, but I think it says more about you than me that you view Yisrael Beitanu as not an extreme right wing party. Granted, there are more right wing parties in the world, and yes - granted - some of their views are perfectly justified (e.g. the suggestion of an international peacekeeping force in Gaza); but the support of settlements and, amongst other things, support of Israeli control of Gaza are NOT left wing policies - and saying so does not make me a mad leftie; again, lets not try to sloganise - it doesn't do well for an individuals argument.

Jose - AGAIN, please let me reiterate that the UN was an OPTION and not the only targetted organisation. I spent a good deal of time in my response addressing this and you, accidently, ignored it. I can't say anything more than before. I am not just talking about the UN - who have, in the past, been (for one of a better phrase) absolute rubbish RE Israel in the past.


stellasolomons

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 08:41

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if the oposition had started this and insisted on the petions implementation I'd feel better


jose (not verified)

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 09:45

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I am not just talking about the UN - who have, in the past, been (for one of a better phrase) absolute rubbish RE Israel in the past.

But Aron, if you are not talking about the UN or NATO or anything, get back when you find someone who will fight the terrorists, cause that is the only thing needed for peace in Gaza.


Yoni1

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:03

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"Yoni1, I'm not going to get into a left v right discussion on a blogging sight"

And then you proceed to do just that, s. below.

"but I think it says more about you than me that you view Yisrael Beitanu as not an extreme right wing party"

Yes, it says that I engage my brain first and then write.
It may be on the right, but it is not 'extreme'. That is just plain bollocks.


mattpryor

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 15:11

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I'd rather the IDF just re-occupied Gaza and restored law and order. Strategic depth against an Egyptian menace will be required in the near future.


mattpryor

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 15:26

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But I also think this petition is a good initiative - anything which draws attention to the fact that rockets are still being launched on the south can only be a good thing. Even if the proposed solution is not very practical.


mattpryor

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 15:49

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Hmm the phantom -1 point marker strikes again!


Yoni1

Wed, 01/12/2011 - 15:51

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At least we know that this person is a total loser. Not that it's a surprise, exactly, when you look at the calibre of antisemites we get here.


Aaron16

Sat, 01/15/2011 - 14:25

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It's a disgusting show of arrogance and a depleted argument that you resort to calling me, an 18 year old on a shnat gap year programme in Israel organsied by a zionist youth movement, an antisemite. It's narrow minded people like you who cannot debate fairly who make israels case one people dispise. utterly shameful, a total disgrace.

and mattywhatever - your last comment shows a complete disregard for the 'other side'. it's people like you with views like yours that will mean we will never bridge the gap between our peoples, since some of us (IE YOU) cannot put your feet in the other shows. and yoni, that represents liberalism not antisemtism. go and study some politics.

the hilarity of an 18 year old trying to a teach you that we need to understand BOTH sides not just one in order to make peace, certainly makes me no loser. it makes you a hyporcrit.


Aaron16

Sat, 01/15/2011 - 14:26

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t's a disgusting show of arrogance and a depleted argument that you resort to calling me, an 18 year old on a shnat gap year programme in Israel organsied by a zionist youth movement, an antisemite. It's narrow minded people like you who cannot debate fairly who make israels case one people dispise. utterly shameful, a total disgrace.

and mattywhatever - your last comment shows a complete disregard for the 'other side'. it's people like you with views like yours that will mean we will never bridge the gap between our peoples, since some of us (IE YOU) cannot put your feet in the other's shoes. and yoni, that represents liberalism not antisemtism. go and study some politics.

the hilarity of an 18 year old trying to a teach you that we need to understand BOTH sides not just one in order to make peace, certainly makes me no loser. it makes you a hyporcrit.


jose (not verified)

Sat, 01/15/2011 - 16:17

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Well, Aaron16, your age shows, not that this should be considered as criticism but justifies your inexperience.
To make peace with a peacekeeping force is not as easy as you think when part of the population refuse to cooperate.
Remember that the HAMAS was elected, do you? You can suppose a good deal of the population of Gaza still supports them.
Remember that a peacekeeping force is in Lebanon, do you? You can see how efficient they have been preventing the Hezbollah to rearm.
Remember that the NATO fights in Afghanistan for 8 years now and still did not eradicate the barbarian Taliban rebels, do you? What makes you think there is another force able to do better in Gaza?

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