Palestine Campaign head visits anti-Israel protesters outside Ahava


By richmillett
October 23, 2010
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Sarah Colborne, Director of Campaigns and Operations at the Palestine Campaign, made a surprise visit to inspect her troops on the front-line on Saturday.

The Palestine Campaign sponsors the fortnightly anti-Israel demonstrations outside Ahava paying for the thousands of leaflets that are distributed to passers-by. There are obviously times when the planet need not be spared.

A few pro-Israel counter-demonstrators took the opportunity to make their objections known to Sarah.

She was asked whether she denounced Hamas for their call to kill Jews in their Charter (Article 7). She replied: “I will not engage with you.”

Now, I have no major problem with someone being anti-Israel, if that is their wish, but surely it isn’t too difficult to denounce an organisation that expressly wishes to kill Jews. Call me old-fashioned.

These days one has to make an expressed and clear denunciation of the EDL to prove that one is not a racist but not denouncing a proudly virulently anti-Semitic organisation like Hamas is, apparently, just fine.

Article Seven states:

......the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).

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stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 06:49

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I understand that the Ahava demos are about the company's using land illegally occupied on the west bank in its production / packaging process. What have Hamas to do with this ?

I doubt this persons attitude is that she wouldnt discuss Hamas with anyone ever but that she wouldnt discuss it with you today ( yeaterday )

In other words she refused to go along with the usual Israeli aplogistas tactic of changing the subject.

To put it in a way that johnny boy will understand. Hamas were " off topic "


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 07:27

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Richard,

Under PC rules, Hamas is fine; there is absolutely no problem with their charter. In fact, it is a cause for celebration. However, under the very same rules, The EDL is viewed a bit more critically. It is just one of those things.

Now the inevitably question arises, whether in the current PC climate, Jonathan and a handful of pro- Israel, non-EDL demonstrators, can really go it alone. I am beginning to have my doubts. The British Jewish establishment does not want troublemakers like Jonathan who are willing to confront anti-zionists in public. As far as they are concerned, that is "not quite cricket"; it never has been and it never will. So they are quite delighted that The EDL has rocked up and made any Israeli flag waving problematic. As you perhaps knows, The JC's owners are closely connected to The New Israel Fund. What chance is there for people like Jonathan Hoffman to get fair crack? Zero!


stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 07:50

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You nearly got me there Anthony, I was just about to talk about Hamas but pulled my fingers off the key board just in time.......naughty boy


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:01

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Stephenb,

I assume that you are playing by PC rules. If you aren't, you are inevitably a Nazi and I would have to report you to The JC, Board of Deputies and the Kessler Foundation.

Stephen Pollard will probably then have to write an article for the Daily Express about undercover Nazis on The JC Blogs who wave Israeli flags and wear the burka. I also hear that Howard Jacobson might use it for the plot for his next novel
entitled "I hava Nazi"


richmillett

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:16

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stephenb - If this demo. is about Ahava's use of illegally controlled land then why do the protestors always sing "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free"? Why, as you can see from the photos. on my blog, do they have "Stop the siege of Gaza" placards? Why do the anti-Israel activists say that Gilad Shalit should be dug up and killed again? Why do they parade photos of dead children? Why do they parade photos of children behind barbed wire? Why do they make flags of Israel but cut out the Magen David? Why, if this all just "about the company's using land illegally occupied on the west bank in its production / packaging process."?

And, finally, why not denounce Hamas for being a proudly virulently anti-Semitic organisation even if, let's say, it was out of context?


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:22

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Rich,

The problem is that Hamas would then be The Nazis. But, remember The EDL are The Nazis! How many bloody Nazis can you have fighting over some Dead Sea Mud?

The title of the novel is "I hava Nazi".

Not "I havlotzov of Nazis"


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:28

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typo.
Not "I havlotzovnazis"


stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:38

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im lost


richmillett

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 08:51

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why are you lost, stephen? Quite simply, this "Ahava protest" is not about Ahava. It is about delegitimising Israel.


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 09:01

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stephenb,

Can Rich be right?

I thought it was all about face marks.

Now he comes up with a big word ... "delegitimising"... and has the gall to add on "Israel"

I reckon that he's turning this debate on its head. Stick to your mud. Don't fall for his clever yiddishe logic. I beg you.


stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 09:06

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where did all these nazis come from ?


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 09:13

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stephenb,

" We all all Nazi Juden now"...

You must have pissed yourself when you read it?


stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 09:55

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I maybe might have done if I had understood it


Anthony Posner

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 10:00

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Check out my Lauren Booth comments. You might understand them.


Harvey

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:27

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Stephen B

Of course the woman would not engage and answer a simple question. The PSC and ISM are all actively and deeply involved with Hamas , a proscribed terrorist entity . She is wholly unable to denounce Hamas as she supports it. By failing to condemn Hamas for its visceral antisemitism she lays herself open to the further charge of turning a very blind eye to antisemitism . By saying nothing she avoids the charge.

Viva Gaza ,ISM , PSC and others bypass the many active NGOS in Gaza ,choosing instead to deliver their out of date medicines direct to Hamas . On entry they are greeted and feted by the upper echelons of Hamas . They are effectively non military off shoots and spokespersons for Hamas .

If this beknighted country had any cajones they would prosecute each and every one of these malign organisations for dealing with terrorists.

As for you , you keep hitting the wrong button in your favourites . Islam on Line comes one before Jewish Chronicle.


stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 17:25

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Harvey just who exactly do you think you are ? Why should anyone stop whatever they are doing and answer any question there and then at your tine and place of choosing ?

Denounce IOF and Isreali settler terrorism in the west bank . Now !! I demand it !! Its a simple request

But its disengenous to insist that the only choices are between a bunch of fruit loops such as yourself , Koffman , Lieberman , Netanyahu et al and another bunch of Jihadist fruit loops. There are other games in town.

And nah I gave up on Jihadic Islam when they wouldnt let me trade the 72 virgins for 72 highly experienced older women. I was all set to become a suicide bomber too.


stephenb

Sun, 10/24/2010 - 19:20

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Interesting though Johhny boy's figures about how 72% of British jews regard themselves as " zionists "

That means that 22...34...43 ...Whats 100 take away 72 ?

Anyway that many wouldn't

Anyway 28% ( thanks Fido ) wouldnt regard themselves as zionists.

Given that "Zionist" covers a multitude of sins and virtues many of these zionists are so simply because they think jews should be able to go live on the land for which they have a special affinity if they want to and........many who feel their zionism needs a political expression but think the pre 1967 borders are plenty political expression enough given the demographics....then...

......it would seem probable that 50 % at least of British jews are against the occupation, illegal settlement and terrorising of the non jewish population in the territories.

who wudda thinked it ?

How interesting and encouraging is this ?


Yoni1

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 11:41

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Since the settlements aren't "illegal", one wonders what your ramblings actually mean. If anything, which I doubt.

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