Mr Pollard, is The JC's "militant" morphing?


By Blacklisted Dictator
March 4, 2010
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Stehen Pollard, editor of the JC in an eamil March 3rd 2010
"He (al- Mabhouh) was a terrorist and that is how we have described him. That is how we describe Hamas. Indeed I have written elsewhere of the BBC's failure to call terrorists terrorists.
I think on one blog news item he was described as a militant. That should have been in inverted commas, as that is how others do - incorrectly in my view - refer to him.
The responsibility for everything is mine. If you want to have a go at our mistake in not calling him a terrorist, please blame me."

Militant>figure>commander.
Still no mention of a "terrorist".

'Lieberman: Don't blame Mossad for Dubai murder' by Jessica Elgot, February 22, 2010
"Israel’s Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has told his Irish counterpart that there was no evidence Mossad carried out the murder of a Hamas militant in Dubai."

'Dubai seeks Netanyahu arrest' by Jessica Elgot, March 3, 2010
"Dubai’s police chief says he will seek an arrest warrant for Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu in connection with the murder of a senior Hamas figure in Dubai."

'Anglo-Israeli ties will survive Dubai' By Miriam Shaviv March 4, 2010
"Against this backdrop, the revelation that the killers of Hamas commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai had used forged British passports (as well as fake passports from several other countries) was widely expected to send British-Israeli relations into a tailspin."

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gold.sarah

4 March, 2010 - 15:13

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That makes another wanted Israeli war criminal

When will these war criminals realise that their time of hubris is over?

When will they realise that they themselves are the source of their own troubles, not the 'anti semites'.


moshetzarfati2

4 March, 2010 - 16:58

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As Juliet said to Romeo, Act II Scene 2:
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."


Akiva

4 March, 2010 - 17:21

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There's quite a lot in a name, for example, the name "Liberal Judaism" would lead you to think it's a form of Judaism. Unfortunately the only sweet smelling roses contained therein will be during the (two fingers up to G-d) homosexual weddings.


moshetzarfati2

4 March, 2010 - 17:42

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If Liberal Judaism is only a form of Judaism, then so is Orthodoxy.


Yvetta

4 March, 2010 - 18:16

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Liberal Judaism has more in common with The Guardian than with the Torah.


moshetzarfati2

4 March, 2010 - 19:11

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Ah, the Guardian. Is that like Auschwitz, which people bandy about when they have nothing else to say?


ibrows

4 March, 2010 - 22:35

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Why do any of you have the right to define what is the 'correct' form of Judaism?

surely its an individual thing, a personal relationship with the almighty?

Where does it say in the Torah, attack those that don't agree with your singular view, surely the existence of Pharisees, alongside various competing groups proves Judaism was from its early days a pluralistic religion that was interpreted differently by different groups. In my eyes this is surely a good thing, rather than hierarchical religious authorities prescribing what is 'right practice', believing that people can not think for themselves


Akiva

5 March, 2010 - 06:17

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Apples and Oranges iBrows.

Also if you want to get technical, the Rambam set the standard for what is Judaism. There is a base line to define every religion despite the differences. Liberal "Judaism" flushes the whole lot.


moshetzarfati2

5 March, 2010 - 07:32

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Come on, Akiva, you can do better than that. The Rambam was of 12th-century Spain and North Africa. Great for his day, but hardly appropriate for our world.


Akiva

5 March, 2010 - 07:50

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Now moshetzarfati2, you know full well the point of my comment was to highlight that there is a line beyond which it is practically and factually inaccurate to lump a “religion” with others.

For example, I could create a Christianity that doesn’t believe jesus ever existed. I could call it Liberal Christianity and using modern world/secular standards could box my diety into approving/disapproving with whatever feels most comfortable for me. The only problem with that is that it’s not a form of Christianity at all, it’s a slightly enhanced form of Humanism which would exist for no other reason than to cause additional consternation and rift within the Christian world.

So too it is with Liberal “Judaism”. As a result of jettisoning everything by which the religion Judaism is defined, you exist essentially as a small (and getting smaller) group of self-hating Jews with little to no connection to the wider Jewish world. Like a car without an engine, you are still a car but you are going nowhere.


Yvetta

5 March, 2010 - 09:08

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Liberal Judaism in the UK differs from the Liberal Judaism that I knew and loved overseas. Here, it might as well call itself Unitarianism. Some of its rabbis have all but cut themselves adrift from Zion. The movement seems to expect its adherents to toe every trendy lefty line there is.


moshetzarfati2

5 March, 2010 - 09:21

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Akiva, that's where you are wrong. You believe that we define ourselves entirely by our Judaism. There are so many factors making up the "self" that chucking the term "self-hating" at anything you disagree with is, quite frankly, ridiculous. The Hebrew-language poet Shaul Tzernichovsky wrote a poem called "Man is made up of the Vista of his Homeland" (poor translation, I know). Basically, there is so much that makes up our "self", and our religion, faith or whatever you want to call it, is a mere part of it.
Judaism was always open to interpretation. Even in rabbinical times, people discussed Judaism and what it meant. Today we are blessed with many means to interpret documents written millennia ago. No doubt in 100 or 1000 years time, they will have other means of text analysis and will be able to get deeper into the meaning of it all (42).


moshetzarfati2

5 March, 2010 - 09:25

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I don't think they have cut themselves adrift from Zion, per se, Yvetta. I think they have realised that Zion is a spiritual thing to which we must aspire rather than something concrete that we have to fetishise. It's a bit like William Blake's Jerusalem. We know damn well we ain't gonna build it among the dark satanic mills in this green and pleasant land, but we are going to try nonetheless. Human spirit and endeavour. That's what makes the world go around.

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