Mr Obama, the devil's in the details


By Miriam Shaviv
April 9, 2010
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Two stories appeared this week indicating the President Obama is considering 'imposing' his own settlement on the Israelis and Palestinians: one by David Ignatius in the Washington Post and another in the NYT.

The proposed settlement would, apparently, follow the same old outline now being worked on for close to two decades: no right of return for Palestinian refugees, a divided Jerusalem, a return to close-to-the-1967-borders with some minor border adjustments and territorial swaps, and recognition of Israel by the Arab states.

“It’s not rocket science,” said Robert Malley, director of the Middle East Program at the International Crisis Group, the Brussels-based organization that seeks to prevent and resolve deadly conflicts.

Actually, answers Elliot Abrahams in the Weekly Standard, it is:

First, if indeed everyone has known the terms for nearly 20 years (since Oslo) yet agreement has never been reached, is it not obvious that neither Israelis nor Palestinians are willing and able to accept those terms? Does their embrace by an ambitious American president make them any more palatable to the people who will have to live with them?

Second, the conclusion that all the terms are known is quite wrong. Is the fate of Jerusalem’s Old City agreed? Do Palestinians accept that Israel will keep every major settlement bloc? Do Israelis and Palestinians agree on the terms needed to guarantee Israel’s security once the IDF must leave the West Bank? (Examples: Is it agreed that Israel will control the air space and electromagnetic spectrum? Is it agreed that Israel can keep troops in the West Bank for some years? Do Palestinians accept that Israel can control the Jordan Valley and patrol the border with Jordan?)

This is nonsense. One of Ignatius’s sources says the Obama plan will “take on the absolute requirements of Israeli security.” After 14 months of harassment by Obama and his team, will any Israeli risk his nation’s safety on that assurance?

His blow-by-blow fisking of Ignatius's column is masterly. I suggest you read the whole thing. 

One point he left out: when this imposed settlement refers the 'Palestinians', it seems to address solely to the Palestinians on the West Bank. What exactly does the administration propose to do with Hamas in Gaza - who are unlikely to accept any American settlement (or any settlement at all)? It's all very well talking about 'solving the Palestinian-Israeli problem', but as long as there is a hostile regime in Gaza, the conflict goes on.

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moshetzarfati2

9 April, 2010 - 10:06

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And Bibi's a coward for not going to the US to give his answers to the US request. If he had been bold and come up with an initiative of his own, he might not have been put in this position. It's all very well blaming Tzipi Livni, as you do elsewhere, but she at least knew that it was pointless joining a coalition that had no path and was devoid of ideas, other than one to keep itself in power.


mattpryor

9 April, 2010 - 11:15

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The trouble is Moshe that you expect all the ideas to come from politicians. Politicians have been trying and failing to resolve this problem for decades.

Bibi's primary responsibility is to the people of Israel, not to the Arabs. The only way this will ever get resolved is if the two sides can sit down together and discuss the problems that exist in a civilised manner, with a mutual objective of peace and coexistence.

The problem is that the Palestinian leadership won't sit down and discuss it under those terms. Why not? Because their objective is NOT peaceful coexistence, their objective is conquest.

Jerusalem is not and I hope will never be on the table. If the Palestinian leadership chooses to keep their people stateless and living in filth because they hang onto a dream of reclaiming Al Quds from the Infidels, then so be it.


Jon_i_Cohen

9 April, 2010 - 11:21

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Very well put Matt, totally agree with you.


moshetzarfati2

9 April, 2010 - 11:26

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No Matt, the trouble is that Netanyahu didn't come up with some come kind of initiative, preferring instead to just ensure staying in power. And that's why Livni was wise to stay out of the mess Netanyahu and his fascist-fundamentalist-fig leaf government created.
Israel has proved to be as intransigent as the Palestinians when it comes to peace talks. Israel doesn't want peaceful co-existence. The only co-existence it is interested in is that of the rider and the horse.
Jerusalem has to be on the table, and everyone knows that it will have to be redivided in some way. Let's face it, it isn't exactly united now. How many Israeli Jews would actually voluntarily go to the occupied parts of the city?
The time has come for someone, probably the Yanks, to either lock them in a room with a plan or just disengage from them both.


mattpryor

9 April, 2010 - 11:41

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Well actually Moshe I agree with the last part of your statement, the heads of the US and the EU and every other politician in the world who considers it their God-given duty to Fix The Middle East should concentrate on their own bloody problems and leave Israel to sort itself out.


moshetzarfati2

9 April, 2010 - 12:39

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By disengage, I also mean withdraw funding and military support. Do you agree with that, Matt?


mattpryor

9 April, 2010 - 14:08

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Fine with me Moshe, provided funding is also withdrawn from Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and the Palestinian Authority.

I bet there are enough people around the world who support Israel to pick up the tab.


moshetzarfati2

9 April, 2010 - 14:21

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it's not just the tab, Matt, it's the diplomatic and military support. Israelis have never really been made to pay for their governments' intransigence. Israelis live a very good life but if the US were to withdraw not just its military and diplomatic support but also its financial clout (meaning that Israeli governments and firms get good access to markets and good economic deals on loans), then the people in the centre of the country who are living very well would suddenly find that they are not immune from hardship.
Many would seek a life away from Israel (indeed, many have already dug up long-lost documents to prove that their ancestors are European in order to get EU passports).
And as these people are precisely those on whom the government relies for its tax revenues.

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