Ministerial no-show

"perhaps ... perhaps..."

perhaps the moon is made of green cheese ...

Jonathan, do you have a better idea as to why they cancelled? Top communal figures say that Bibi failed to get an invite to Number 10 and as a serving minister, Meridor is immune from prosecution as he hasn't been convicted of anything (not even a speeding ticket, let alone indicted for alleged war cimes). And weren't the Tories, the great friends of Jews and Israel, supposed to have done away with or at least amended the Universal Jurisdiction legislation?

Meridor is only immune if he is here on government-to-government business - this was a private visit.

And you believe Israel Radio and TV? Why?

But Jonathan, Meridor hasn't been indicted of anything and after a search through myriad sources I can conclude that he wasn't involved in anything relating to what the loons might wanted him arrested for (Lebanon II, Cast Lead etc).

Just for the record, it seems that my comment about the UK govt supporting moderate Jihad, has been deleted from the blog.

I am shocked.

And my comment that this is the price for continued occupation and settlement expansion was also deleted.

What's controversial about that?

Anthony:
"Just for the record, it seems that my comment about the UK govt supporting moderate Jihad, has been deleted from the blog.

I am shocked."

Reminds me of the man who stood in the Red Square back in the '80s shouting "Brezhnev is an idiot".

He got twenty years: 1 year for insulting a Head of State, and 19 for revealing a state secret...

Evidence that The UK govt is officially supporting moderate Jihad:

http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/british-council-and-foreign-office-support...

I reiterate, Meridor is person non grata in The UK because he opposes moderate Jihad.

Moreover, Cameron made it quite clear on his recent visit to Turkey that he supported the "martyrs" on the Mavi Marmarmara.

Perhaps The JC is unaware of this?

Is The JC attempting to blur the true direction of British foreign policy?

And if so, what can it gain by doing so?

And as you are all aware, Queen Elizabeth 2nd has never visited Israel.

Sooner or later, one has to accept that the British Govt is not a friend of Israel but an enemy. I would argue that in Europe, Britain's foreign policy is probably the most anti-Israel.

And of course, the Board of Deputies is unwilling to confront the true direction of British foreign policy.

Are there any other countries Her Maj ain't visited or Israel the only one?

If I remember correctly, Stephen Pollard actually wrote an article stating that William Hague was no friend of Israel. It was a perceptive piece.

So why is it, that when I expand on this reasoning, I am censored?

Surely, the purpose of this blog is to discuss and determine what is actually going on?

Are we to live in a British fool's paradise?

tsam,
I am sure there are others. North Korea?

Has she been to Turkey? Mexico? Both OECD countries. Costa Rica? Nicaragua? Hungary? Romania? There are plenty of countries she hasn't gone to yet.

tsam,
I can't find the list of the places she has been to.

With regard to Britis foreign policy, take a look at this:

http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/32146/hague-no-friend-is...

Pollard does not go into detail about the UK's penchant for moderate Jihad but he does make some good points. Ofcourse, it was written before Cameron's vist to Turkey and the article I wrote about The UK govt financing moderate Jihadist thinkers in Cairo.

tsam,

here is the list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_visits_made_by_Queen_Elizabet...

One might have to accept an extremely unpalatable truth...Israel is perhaps the only country in the world which recognizes the dangers posed by The Jihadists.

The rest of the world is either conniving with The Jihadists or is actually asleep.
Of course, it is a bit depressing but sometimes one has to fully accept what is going on.

Temper, temper, Avraham. It really isn't good for your blood pressure, dear.

Do calm down, dear, it's only a news report.

It may have escaped everyones attention but William Hague the UK foreign secretary arrives in Israel tomorrow for an official visit - so much for tsham's crackpot nonsense.

Indeed, Hague can visit Israel, but Cameron and Clegg cannot be seen to be meeting, in Whitehall, with their Israeli counterparts, Bibi and Meridor. It will be interesting to note when Lieberman is making a reciprocal visit to London.

Anthony
The world is asleep or oblivious.
Since 1960 99% of world terrorist incidents have been Moslem related.
There are over 2 billion Moslems in the world, 1 in 4 of every human on the planet is a Moslem!
What percentage do you need to have thousands of extemists?
1% of 2,000,000 is 20,000; 1% of 2 billion dosen't bear thinking about.
Terrorist groups abound all over the world and operate with impunity in Gaza, Pakistan, Somalia and Ethiopia, groups like :- The Moslem Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda, Fedayeen, Mufti Mujahideen, Turkey's Special Organization, Ustashi, Taliban, Fatah, PLO, Islamic Jihad, HAMAS, Hizballah, Abu Nidal, Shamil Basayev, Army of Muhammad, Order of Holy Warriors, Salafia Jihadia, Tawhid & Jihad, Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, to name a few.

So, why doesn't the UK government ammend the law of universal jurisdiction?
Simple answer:-
UK population of Jews less than 270,000
UK population of Moslems over 2.5 million

Leaving aside "even Israel's allies have lost patience", is tsam's analysis really that controversial?

My only real criticism is that he seems to think that Britain and The USA are morally superior to Israel. I am more reticent on that score, believing that the Camerobama's of this world are extremely misguided and that their foreign policies stink.

"Ustashi" -- Muslim? Nope, they are Croatian Catholics who collaborated with the Nazis in the war.

Anthony, I didn't appoint you my spokesman, remember? And I do not think that the US or the UK or France or Germany or Japan or Norway or even Iceland or (add your own country here) are morally superior to Israel. Countries don't have morals, they have interests.

Why would Lieberman want to visit a failed state which is about to become the first Islamic Republic in Europe?

Lieberman has been to all over the former USSR, including his homeland and Belarus (hardly model democracies), so he'd relish a visit here for at lest some photos for his next political campaign (if he's not in jail by then, of course).

tsam,

Thank you for confirming that I am not your "spokesman". As everybody knows, you have already appointed Avraham Reiss. Of course, I won't work with Reiss so if you are thinking of appointing an extra "spokesman" you will have to find someone else. How about stephenb? He could write some of your foreign policy statements?

Yes, I do agree that countries have "interests". American and British interests seem to be very different to Israel's. I think that Jon Cohen explains some of the reasons although I think he has exaggerated the world Muslim population.

The Ustashi has a long and ugly history and links with Moslem extremists.
June 12th 1941 a deal brokered and promoted by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammad Amin al-Husayni (Husseini), Muslim cleric, political leader, and General in Hitler's SS, and the Nazis on behalf of the Ustashi, restricted the movement of all Jews and Serbs in Croatia. It was then that the mass killings began.
You should know that Muhammad Husayni The Grand Mufti was considered to be an "Islamic Scholar." The Mufti title was awarded to Islamic clerics who were authorized to interpret the Qur'an etc. But he was nothing more than a Nazi stooge.
With the Grand Mufti's help, during the four years between 1941 and 1945 the independent State of Croatia executed over 800,000 Orthodox Christian Serbs and Jews in its territory. Most all of the killings were orchestrated by the Ustashi - who were Roman Catholic fascists in league with Islam. That is the point.

Islam is the world's second largest religion after Christianity. According to a 2009 demographic study, Islam has 1.57 billion adherents, making up 23% of the world population.

prvs comment of course addressed to liar tscum.

Let's now see who is a boor ve-am haaretz ..

Answer immediately:
Name the sections of the Shulchan Aruch.

Answer fast, or we'll know you called someone Jewish for the answer.

Avraham, is it so hard to understand? You are a goornischt. Nobody. Bobkis. You play at being super Jewish and your moral outrage is touching. But it is totally inverse to your actual Jewishness. You have not an ounce of menschlichkeit in you. Go on, be a martyr, see if anyone cares. Then rant and rave at the hard working people of the JC and call for it to be boycotted. Grow up.

Chaps, chaps,

True Brit is reading this stufff. Please! Can't we have some decorum on the blog?
We can't go around alienating potential readers and bloggers. (We should maintain the highest standards even if one's adversary is a complete pric.)

Let's not let ourselves down. We should all sing The Blog Song. And we can get up to some high jinx after blog. But we have The JC's standards to maintain. Don't let Polly Pollard and Soapy Saphir down!

seeeeee, I said you couldn't answer something as simple as that.

You are now officially the forum's boor ve'am haartez (translation: religious ignpramous).

In future we'll address you as BVAH.

BTW - answer:
Even HaEzer
Orach Chaim
Choshen Mishpat
Yoreh De'ah.

Got that, BVAH
Yoreh Deah

"Then rant and rave at the hard working people of the JC " - noch, a tuchus-licker as well ...

Avraham, what are you? Twelve? Thirteen? My nine-year-old is more mature than you. You make Kevin the Teenager seem positively middle-aged. I could give you an answer, but you'd just accuse me of looking it up. No one owes you anything. Suck it up and get used to it. But most of all act your age, not your shoe size.

Chaps, chaps,

I'm serious. Any more behaviour like that and I'm sending you straight to True Brit! You've been warned. He won't stand for it.

That's it. I'm getting True Brit!

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