Methinks The Editor Doth Protest Too Much


By Jonathan Hoffman
February 12, 2010
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The story so far: In last week’s JC, Professor Geoffrey Alderman revealed that Matt Seaton, editor of Guardian “Comment Is Free” (CIF), had given him a ‘gun at head’ ultimatum: choose between writing for CiFWatch (the brilliant forensic website that keeps tabs on antisemitism and anti-Israel bias on CIF) and CIF. In addition Alderman related that he was being premoderated by CIF (in CIFspeak “premoderating” is pretty much a synonym for “banning”). Further, he wrote “the fact is that the anti-Zionist contributions to CIF far outweigh the pro-Zionist ones”. Of the articles published on CIF he wrote “slowly but surely, CIF … has become a platform for the crudest propaganda that can only have been intended to foster a hatred of the Jewish state.“

Matt Seaton promptly demanded the “right of reply” in the JC. Quite why – when he has his own newspaper in which to “reply” – is unclear. It suggests an Editor who is profoundly unsure of his ground. Today his reply was published, but the JC gave Alderman the chance of a rejoinder.

Matt Seaton justified the premoderation by the risible claim that Professor Alderman had compared Palestinians to Nazis. A word of background: the comment in question was in the thread below an article by Seth Freedman on 22 January about the connection between Israel’s rescue work in Haiti and its alleged lack of concern for the Palestinians in Gaza. Alderman’s comment was deleted but in his rejoinder, he says that Seaton’s assertion is both “incorrect and mischievous”: he entered a debate on the balance between compassion for fellow human beings and the need to fight an enemy, arguing that “the fact that Nazis were human beings did not deter the wartime allies from destroying the Nazi state. I made an analogy, not a comparison”.

Professor Alderman writes “it strikes me now that the CIF team may simply not have understood this distinction”.

This is much too charitable. I have been monitoring antisemitism and anti-Israel bias on CIF for three years. In July 2008 I wrote the first analysis of this profoundly distasteful feature of The Guardian and submitted it to the UK Parliamentary Committee on Antisemitism and the US State Department. When you post on CIF to try to correct the lies about Israel there, there is an unpleasant “cybermob” that will then twist your words, omitting context and key phrases and even alleging ‘Islamophobia’ where there is none (now known as the “Dizaei Strategy”).

So it is the voice of experience speaking when I say that this is precisely the technique that Matt Seaton is using in his claim about Alderman. How disappointing - but how telling an indication of editorial insecurity. When you dance with chimney-sweeps…

Now to CiFWatch. CiFWatch.com began its CIF-monitoring last August, building on my 2008 study. It has been extremely successful. It is widely cited across the blogosphere and I know that it is bookmarked by many. Matt Seaton has told me he reads it. Its articles regularly attract 50+ comments and some go over 100. I myself have written for it (cripes that means I am banned from CIF too: Alderman and I will just have to start a “salle de refusés”). The wonderful ‘IsraeliNurse’ writes for it as do AKUS and Mitnaged, both refugees from CIF. So good is CiFWatch that Seaton can find no substantive criticism. But he cannot come out and say the truth about why Alderman was given the “gun at head ultimatum“ – namely, that CIF editorial policy is to do everything possible to suppress voices that challenge the “CIF Israel view” – because that would be a bit close to denying ‘free speech’ (oh sod the faux politeness: It WOULD be denying free speech). So he has to resort to an ‘ad hominem’ (or whatever the accusative form is of the Latin for “website”): “CiFWatch is not an objective media monitoring organisation, but a site run by anonymous activists dedicated to representing CIF as anti-Jewish.”

Gulp. Talk about “argument by assertion”.

First compare Seaton’s verdict with Alderman’s: “The evidence for the demonisation of Israel on CIF is overwhelming. CiFWatch has meticulously calalogued it.” Of course Matt Seaton would accuse CiFWatch of not being “objective” but the fact is that he cannot find a single substantive criticism of it. As for “anonymous”: it is not true that the articles on CiFWatch are all ‘anonymous’. I - for one - post in my name. So did Professor Alderman. So do many others. Combating falsehoods about Israel and antisemitism can be a lonely, thankless task with adverse repercussions in some professions (eg teaching and parts of the media). That is presumably why many of the wonderful “activist” CiFWatchers choose to use aliases. The “About Us” page on CiFWatch.com explains more of their reasoning.

Finally Matt Seaton disputes Professor Alderman’s charge of editorial bias in the Israel-related articles that CIF publishes. There is no question that Alderman is right. In my own study I noted

“the history of CIF is that articles have been commissioned above all from writers to whom the Jewish character of Israel is either unimportant or undesirable, such as Inayat Bunglawala, Jimmy Carter, John Chalcraft, Mick Dumper, Seth Freedman, George Galloway,Tony Greenstein, Soumaya Ghannoushi, Ghada Karmi, Brian Klug, Seumas Milne, Karma Nabulsi, Avi Shlaim, Richard Silverstein, Jonathan Steele. (There are other contributers such as Petra Marquardt-Bigman, Daniel Levy and Jonathan Spyer who are committed to the Jewish State but they are very much in the minority).”

It is not just Professor Alderman and I who have noted editorial bias. Denis MacEoin more recently (March 2009) catalogued it in his terrific letter to one of the Guardian editors.

The Guardian has even given space to known supporters and even leaders of Hamas and Hizbollah.

Let’s look at the period since the start of December 2009. Looking at the articles on CIF in the categories “Israel” and Gaza”, I count 29 articles that are hostile to Israel or minimise or denigrate antisemitism (vide the debate on the film “Defamation”). They include well-known Israel-bashers such as Tony Lerman, Seth Freedman, Ben White, Seamus Milne, Daniel Machover, Jimmy Carter, Victoria Brittain, Nicholas Blincoe and Neve Gordon. There are 18 articles that are balanced. Not pro-Israel – balanced …. a “pro-Israel” article would have been one about the amazing work done by the Israelis in Haiti for example – without the forced comparison with the people who voted in the genocidal Hamas – or about the Israeli economic miracle as told in the new book “Start Up Nation”.

So 29 hostile, 18 balanced, 0 positive.

No, Matt Seaton. The evidence proves you wrong and Professor Alderman right on all three counts. “Methinks the Editor doth protest too much”.

Instead of tying yourself in knots trying to defend the indefensible, how about addressing the genuine concerns voiced by Professor Alderman, by CiFWatch, by Denis MacEoin, by me - and by countless others?

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Jonathan Hoffman

12 February, 2010 - 06:59

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Thank you Mr/Ms Aptly-Named. It's because of people like you that fighting antisemitism is necessary.


Jonathan Hoffman

12 February, 2010 - 07:05

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Clap Hammer

12 February, 2010 - 07:24

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CiFWatch is not an objective media monitoring organisation, but a site run by anonymous activists dedicated to representing CIF as anti-Jewish.

How could Matt dare to construct such a sentence.

CiF is not a balanced site. It is a site dedicated to demonizing and delegitimizing Israel. Its editorial policy uses misrepresentation to portray Israel as an inhuman entity which is a product of the old colonialising enterprises of Europe. Its laughingly called moderation policy is just a convenient vehicle that is used to stifle comments which do not fit into the Guardian World View.


richmillett

12 February, 2010 - 09:54

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"Have you ever asked the question why do so many people hate jewish people"

Did someone really post this comment?

Has he ever asked himself why?

I would love to know why he thinks "so many people hate jewish people".

Go on, please tell us your theory.


tomeisner2

12 February, 2010 - 09:58

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I agree with Moshe on this one Jonathan. How many friends do you have Jonathan who aren't Jewish or who are Muslims? Do you have any Palestinian friends? Do you disagree with "marrying out?"


richmillett

12 February, 2010 - 10:14

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I'm sorry but that is an outrageous question, Tom.

Both you and Moshe are out of order.

Instead of playing the man why don't you play his arguments. Or maybe his arguments are too complex for both of you or maybe they have a lot of truth in them.

Tom's argument about having Palestinian friends is like an anti-Semite who proclaims "i can't be anti-Semitic as i have a Jewish friend".


tomeisner2

12 February, 2010 - 10:36

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OK take your point Rich. but I think that there is generally not enough effort made by the Jewish community to explore beyond what they have grown up with. After we no longer live in Vilnius.


Jonathan Hoffman

12 February, 2010 - 10:40

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Mr Eisner

Do you have any friends at all?

Were you ever invited to other childrens' houses when you were at primary school?


Jon_i_Cohen

12 February, 2010 - 10:49

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tomeisner2 is mentally living in Chelm. It is therefore no wonder that the concepts and arguments outlined in the above article are beyond him.


Jonathan Hoffman

12 February, 2010 - 11:10

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Mr Fornicates says "You would probably be more effective by good 'PR' - giving to your local community"

What a good idea Mr Copulates

But when I help old ladies across the road how will they know I'm Jewish?

Should I wear a Yellow Star?


Jon_i_Cohen

12 February, 2010 - 11:20

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Come on Jonathan! You look Jewish!! Don't you??
I'm damn sure I do, so Mr FCUK would have no problem with me!


moshetzarfati2

12 February, 2010 - 11:58

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I thought Nazi symbolism was a no-no, Mr Hoffman


Avraham Reiss

12 February, 2010 - 11:58

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Moshe Fukks (who doesn't?):

You contradict yourself. First you state an acceptable fact: "so many people hate jewish people " and then you suggest "You would probably be more effective by good 'PR' - giving to your local community (not just the Jewish one), befriending more gentiles etc".

Given that "so many people hate jewish people ", what good can your suggestion possibly do? You
can't change the mind of an anti--semite.

Your basic problem is of approach. You live in London and obviously have a galut (exile) mentality. "Don't annoy the goyim, we'll only get into trouble". I know it well - I grew up in London.

Ben-Gurion stated it beautifully: It doesn't matter what the goyim think, it matters what the Jews do.

Jonathan is doing sterling work in promoting the new face of the Jew who is no longer goy-fodder, pushed around by all. Whereas in the past any anti-semite could say or do what he wanted, he now has to be prepared for a reaction - from Jonathan and many others - that will require intellectual justification of his utterings and deeds. For a lot of them this will be too great an effort.


moshetzarfati2

12 February, 2010 - 11:59

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Methinks the Orwellian "watch" sites protest too much, too. And Nazi symbology was a no-no, according to the EUMC


ibrows

12 February, 2010 - 12:05

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Jonathan

You argue that when you post on the guardian CIF you are met with comments of 'Islamaphobia', well when i right on JC, i have met with comment of 'Anti-semitism' from yourself and others principally because you disagree with my viewpoints.

Also you list many 'writers to whom the Jewish character of Israel is either unimportant or undesirable'. Again, just because you disagree with their views, you cannot call people like Avi Shlaim into question, we live in a pluralistic world, criticism and different viewpoints is a good thing. I grow worried when the world or a country tries to force a single narrative and censor and remove those that challenge it, this is a dangerous situation, freedom of speech is a great thing in England


Yvetta

12 February, 2010 - 12:19

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Tom Meisner, you've a nerve in your assumption that Jonathan has few or no non-Jewish friends. And as you well know, "marrying out" will spell the end of the Jewish people. That's evidently what you hope for. Well, each to his own, but don't offend those of us who refuse to give Hitler and all the other Hamans, past and present, a victory, posthumous or otherwise.


Avraham Reiss

12 February, 2010 - 12:19

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ibrows:
" i have met with comment of 'Anti-semitism' from yourself and others principally because you disagree with my viewpoints."

I told you in a different thread, you are considered anti-semitic NOT because you think 'different', but because you consistently attack the State of Israel and push the Arab POV heavily.


Yvetta

12 February, 2010 - 12:21

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ibrows, disputing facets of Israeli policy is not antisemitism, but denying the Jewish people the right to self-determination and to "the Zionist entity" is.


Yvetta

12 February, 2010 - 12:25

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Moshe Fukks with that old Polish-Jewish name - (yeah, right, whatever you say, dude) - you should ask your zeide why it wasn't changed to Cavendish-Bentinck!


Avraham Reiss

12 February, 2010 - 12:30

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MFukks:
"Let's be honest it's a 3500 year old problem - so is it all their fault (let's just brand them anti-semites & be the perpetual victim), or have we taken a good hard look at ourselves & asked the more difficult & important question?"

That is an extreme example of a leftist mentality.
Just a few steps before the ChiCom system of public self-criticism.

To follow your thinking, two billion flies eat cr*p: are they all wrong?

One begins to doubt oneself and say "have we taken a good hard look at ourselves?" when one is not sure of one's moral standing. In most cases its because of a lack of deep knowledge of the subject involved. Leftists are usually devoid of religion, and thus ignorant of what Judaism (which is what all this is about) has to say on many subjects.

Someone spent 2 months surveying racial origins of Nobel Prize winners from its inception and until 1990. He came up with the result that 23% of all Nobel Laureates were Jewish or of Jewish origin. That is 64 times greater than our relative place in the world population.

I mentioned that as background to this question: do you really think that over 3,500 years such a 'smart' nation always got it wrong and must now 'examine' itself?

You are in denial.


tomeisner2

12 February, 2010 - 12:37

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You wrote

"Do you have any friends at all

Were you ever invited to other childrens' houses when you were at primary school?

Well to answer that. Yes I was invited and went and have many friends today. Maybe our childish converation could be turned around by me presuming that most of the occasions that you were invited to other childrens' houses that these were nearly always Jewish houses? Jonathan do you have any Palestinian friends ?
I have answered your question, maybe you could kindly answer mine.


moshetzarfati2

12 February, 2010 - 13:48

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Someone will have to explain why the Jewish state's education system has been creating generations of ignorami who are bobbling along the bottom of the "developed" world's league tables. Anyway, most Nobels are given to western scientists, in far greater numbers than the West's relative place in the world. Most Jews flourished in the Wes


Yvetta

12 February, 2010 - 14:02

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Moshe, it's rather striking how Israel has produced relatively few Nobel laureates, compared to what has been achieved in the Golus. I wonder why.


moshetzarfati2

12 February, 2010 - 14:06

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Yvetta, the reason is because Israel's education system has been creating generations of ignorami who are bobbling along the bottom of the "developed" world's league tables. Instead of spending what few resources it has on proper education, it has squandered them on settlements and yeshivot, which create the most unproductive sector in Israeli society. Now that is the strategic threat to the future of Israel -- not the Iranians or Jenny Tonge.


Yvetta

12 February, 2010 - 14:36

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But what about the Haifa Technion or the Weizmann Institute - there is first-class research going on there, surely.
I wonder whether the impact of being "the Other", in exile may have given Diaspora Jewry that vital edge which is perhaps blunted when that status is removed.


moshetzarfati2

12 February, 2010 - 14:55

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Indeed, Yvetta, the Technion and Weizmann Inst (as well as other unis) are home to first-class research. But they are really for the minority who are able to rise above the dross. I think you are on to something about being the "Other" or a minority. Just look at the Sikhs in the UK, they are used to be "the Other" or a minority wherever they are, and they excel, too. Maybe we Jews aren't cut out to be a majority.


Yvetta

12 February, 2010 - 15:16

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Yes, and the Quakers have similarly been over-achievers (at least in the chocolate industry!). Being members of small endogamous groups outside the mainstream does have advantages, it seems.


John Gold

12 February, 2010 - 15:50

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Avraham.

"Given that "so many people hate jewish people ", what good can your suggestion possibly do? You can't change the mind of an anti--semite. "

I believe you can change people's minds, the Irish were once blamed for burning down London, as well as Chicago - and were greeted with hate (no Irish, dogs or n*ggers on door signs) - by landlords, pubs, and workplaces etc.
They then went on to provide a majority of the American presidents, and no longer struggle with the burden of hate and negative stereotyping.

But why are they (the people you refer to) anti-semite in the first place? Distance causes suspicion, conflict and ultimately hate and war (i'm also aware that a different religion can too).

Every culture has been given stereotypes:

French: Arrogant, chauvinistic, good lovers, food connoisseurs.

Irish: Construction workers, dumb, American Presidents, sense of humour, warm loving.

Ultimately, in any culture or nationality, it's about the good stereo types out weighing the bad. And although your mentality seems to be saying we demand respect and recognition, we all know you have to earn it.

Israel are in the political driving seat in that land - if they are seen to be gracious to their inhabitants regardless of their religion or ethnicity - who would fault them for it?


richmillett

12 February, 2010 - 16:28

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John Gold, anti-Semitism pre-existed Israel by 10 centuries (if not more). So you can't blame Israel for it, can you?


Mitnaged

12 February, 2010 - 17:10

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John Gold, looking under the surface of what you write, I take your reference to Israel being "gracious" to all her inhabitants regardless of their ethnicity or religion, to be an indication that you do not think she is.

If you really believe that then you know little about Israel or Jews.

And the rest of your post can be construed as not be aware of the demands on Israel's resources of "graciousness" of over 60 years of warfare and more lately deliberate targeting of her civilians.

You need only look at some of the reactions on the ignominious CiF column which criticised the excellent standard of aid offered to the people of Haiti. Was that aid not indicative of "graciousness?"

How "gracious" do you think Israel should have to be in the face of neighbours who openly state that their aim is to destroy her and her people regardless of the compromises she may be prepared to make in the pursuit of peace?


John Gold

12 February, 2010 - 18:17

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mitnaged.

Building a huge wall with watch towers, and building Israeli homes on Palestinian land is not going to make relations better (and will only be seen as provocation)?

Not all Palestinians want to rid the land of Israeli's any more than all Israeli's want to rid the land of all Palestinians, these people are a minority on both sides of the camp that should the loudest.

The fact that the land lines cross doesn't help matters - i.e as things stand for Palestinians to cross from the west bank to gaza they have to cross Israeli territory - how is that ever going to work?

As for Haiti, I'm not knocking the effort - but 'charity begins at home' (i.e. people living within the country's borders).

Richmillet.

"anti-Semitism pre-existed Israel by 10 centuries "

As 'Israel Shahak (the Polish-born Israeli professor) aptly put it.

"the struggle against Jewish chauvinism and exclusivism, which must include a critique of classical Judaism, is of equal or greater importance as the struggle against antisemitism, and all other forms of racism."


John Gold

12 February, 2010 - 18:30

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mitnaged.

Building a huge wall with watch towers, and building Israeli homes on Palestinian land is not going to make relations better (and will only be seen as provocation)?

Not all Palestinians want to rid the land of Israeli's any more than all Israeli's want to rid the land of all Palestinians, these people are a minority on both sides of the camp that shout the loudest.

The fact that the land lines cross doesn't help matters - i.e as things stand for Palestinians to cross from the west bank to gaza they have to cross Israeli territory - how is that ever going to work?

As for Haiti, I'm not knocking the effort - but 'charity begins at home' (i.e. people living within the country's borders).

Richmillet.

"anti-Semitism pre-existed Israel by 10 centuries "

As 'Israel Shahak' (the Polish-born Israeli professor) aptly put it.

"the struggle against Jewish chauvinism and exclusivism, which must include a critique of classical Judaism, is of equal or greater importance as the struggle against antisemitism, and all other forms of racism."


Jonathan Hoffman

12 February, 2010 - 20:58

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as soon as you start quoting "israel shahak", we know precisely what you are.

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