Merci, Vanessa.
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jose (not verified) 17 January, 2011 - 14:01 Rate this: 2 points | propmax is late, as I announced the same (although without the propaganda twist) one day before: http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/good-news-bds-vanessa-paradis-cancels-isra... |
17 January, 2011 - 16:56 Rate this: 3 points | Newsmax, the drooling Jew-hater, thinks this will bring down Israel. |
17 January, 2011 - 17:07 Rate this: -3 points | The point of the BDS movement is not to 'bring down Israel' but to ensure justice and rights for the Palestinians. Groups in Israel are agitating for the same as are many solidarity groups around the world. I read today that over 200 Irish artists have signed up to not perform in Israel or collaborate with Israeli performers. They are doing this to highlight the plight of the occupied and besieged Palestinians. Just as the AA movement boycotted S. Africa. The more people who join the campaign the more notice it will achieve around the world. The target is a peaceful recognition of the rights of Palestinians to not live behind walls subject to the intimidation of an occupying army (as so eloquently highlighted by Breaking The Silence – an Israeli organisation) |
17 January, 2011 - 18:06 Rate this: 4 points | suzanna, utter nonsense. The BDS is a discriminatory and inherently racist movement, which lays the blame for the entire conflict at Israel's door. Thus Palestinian terrorism is excused (indeed, often justified by BDS supporters), as is the endemic antisemitism in the Arab and wider Islamic worlds. Palestinian rejectionism is ignored and glossed over, as are genocidal threats from Iran and their antisemitic terror proxies, Hamas and Hizbollah. Most BDS people I have engaged with soon let the mask slip that they are against Israel existing at all, (and often their antisemitism shows). Meanwhile, they ignore the worst tragedies in the world, and let every tyrannical dictatorship in the Middle East (i.e. all of Israel's apartheid neighbours off the hook). It is antisemitism dressed up as concern for peace and human rights. Despicable. |
17 January, 2011 - 18:07 Rate this: 4 points | newsmax makes great play that Vanessa Pasradis has cancelled a concert and John Lewis has withdrawn products, citing both as great "successes" for his hateful movement. On what evidence, newsmax, do you make such a claim? |
17 January, 2011 - 18:13 Rate this: 3 points | Amber: They don't just excuse Palestinian terrorism, they encourage it and use it to stifle disagreement - knowing full well that to stand up for Israel is to stand up to islamist ideologies, which carries a death penalty in much of the world. |
17 January, 2011 - 18:38 Rate this: 4 points | That's true Matt. I just want to see how newsmax and suzanna explain their way out of this. |
19 January, 2011 - 09:45 Rate this: 3 points | Suzanna doesn't explain - she just regurgitates ignorant nonsense. 200 Irish 'artists' - 99% of them have never been to the ME, and 100% of them are ignorant and thick. And a huge % are probably antisemitic. There is a huge level of antisemitism in Ireland, which is essentially a backward Catholic country. |
19 January, 2011 - 09:46 Rate this: 4 points | Suzanna doesn't explain - she just regurgitates ignorant nonsense. 200 Irish 'artists' - 99% of them have never been to the ME, and 100% of them are ignorant and thick. And a huge % are probably antisemitic. There is a huge level of antisemitism in Ireland, which is essentially a backward Catholic country. |
19 January, 2011 - 10:51 Rate this: 1 point | well surprise surprise, when suzanna is challenged, she buggers off. |
19 January, 2011 - 11:28 Rate this: -1 points | Yoni1 (AKA Jonathan Hoffman) makes another very sweeping statement about Irish people. No doubt were a similar sweeping statement to be made about Israelis there would be much outrage from Yoni1 (AKA Jonathan Hoffman). But anyway, the BDS movement is a non violent attempt to force Israel to end the occupation of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. It was Palestinian civil society that initially called for BDS. Violence does not help the Palestinians and neither does it really help the Israelis. The fact that many people are joining the BDS movement from singers to shops to local authorities could indicate that civil society realises that BDS is a legitimate and non violent means of helping the Palestinians realise their free state. Alongside Israel. |
19 January, 2011 - 11:35 Rate this: 1 point | suzanna, now don't go away. Can you explain how the conflict is all Israel's fault, as the BDS movement only targets Israel, and has no problem with the Hamas run administration in Gaza, the Fatah run PA and all of Israel's neighbours, including Syria and Iran which has promised to annihilate the Jewish state? Can you also explain how the conflict comes down to Israel's presence in Jerusalem (including the Jewish quarter, which the BDS movement thinks Jews have no right to live in), and Judea and Samaria? Will the conflict miraculously go away if Israel left all these areas and ethnically cleansed every Jew living there? Please answer specifically - don't go away. |
19 January, 2011 - 11:36 Rate this: 1 point | Can you also explain why the BDs movement engages in vandalism of property, shouts abuse a shop staff, and desecrates the Israeli flag? |
19 January, 2011 - 11:51 Rate this: 0 points | Allow me to translate Suzanna's creepy Orwellian double-speak:
Yoni1 (who in my paranoid mind is also Jonathan Hoffman - a complement to both individuals it seems) makes a fair and justified assertion about the Irish, given the fact that they host Hezbollah and Hamas rallies and have a history for supporting the PLO and other arab terror groups, and take an anti-Israel stance on the diplomatic front. I, along with others, am allowed to make much more offensive sweeping statements about Israelis (racist, apartheid, etc) and claim victimhood and bullying when I am challenged by people that find my views objectionable. Yes, I am a hypocrite as well.
But anyway, the BDS movement is a crypto-fascist intolerant, hateful and racist attempt to prevent Israel from having trade, cultural or academic links with the rest of the world so that Israel can be isolated, weakened and eventually destroyed. It was Palestinian radicals, extremists and former terrorists that initially called for BDS, as part of their 63 year war of elimination, and we dutifully serve them, because we are stupid.
Violence makes Palestinians look bad and damages our cause so we're taking a break at the moment. Israel has no right to defend itself against violence targeting its civilians.
The fact that hardly anyone pays any attention to our sad attempts to hurt Jews, even though we exaggerate and lie about our so-called successes, could indicate that our cause is a nasty and doomed one. But we will continue to pretend otherwise, and will continue to launch our nasty political attacks against Israel, and will push peace further and further away in the process. Because we don't really give a flying toss about Palestinians - which is why we don't ever criticise the Lebanese, Jordanians or Egyptians, who continue to keep their "Palestinians" in camps deprived of basic human dignity - but instead focus exclusively on dismantling Israel. |
19 January, 2011 - 11:58 Rate this: 0 points | The West Bank is internationally recognised as being occupied territory. The BDS movement does not wish to 'ethnically cleanse' anyone, what is seeks is the end of the occupation of The West Bank and Gaza. This is the target of the US, the EU and Russia. Apparently it is also what Israel wishes - though its actions indicate otherwise. The BDS movement targets Israel because Israel is the occupying power and has a military dominance over the Palestinians. The Palestinians are not in a position to influence the occupation as they have no military power and no real support in the US. Therefore civil society, in Israel as well as in many other countries, sees BDS as an effective and non violent way of influencing opinion and ending the occupation and siege. Whether or not Syria or Iran has genocidal ambitions is of course a matter of debate. Building a wall around the occupied Palestinians will not alter that. For many decades Israel has been appropriating land and killing Palestinians. And nothing has changed for the better. What it has achieved is to increasingly isolate Israel. The threat from Hamas is negligible, despite the pathetic fireworks that the militant movements fire. The ordnance that is fired into Gaza and the West Bank is of far more significance and far more deadly. Of this very little mention is made. The occupation will end. Israel has a right to live in peace and security. But what must also be considered is that the Palestinians must have that right too. At the moment they do not have the right of free movement and they are subject to road blocks, night raids, shelling, missile attacks and on and on. They are at the whim and mercy of an occupation. |
19 January, 2011 - 12:50 Rate this: 1 point | You talk about the "BDS movement" as if it acts in a vacuum. You already stated above that you take your commands from Palestinian masters. They do want to ethnically cleanse people. And you are helping them. The PLO is a revolutionary marxist movement which considers all of Israel to be "occupied" and seeks the dismantling of Israel as a long term goal. They openly reaffirm that goal at every Fatah convention. But of course that isn't important to you. You happily do their bidding under the fig leaf of "human rights" while ignoring the worst violations of human rights around the world, which have nothing to do with Israel. Your cause is a vile parody of human rights. Answer my question above. If you are so concerned with the rights of Palestinians why don't you speak out and campaign about the disgusting treatment of Palestinian arab refugees in other totalitarian countries, where they are routinely massacred, have their homes destroyed, deprived of basic rights and dignity? Silence. You only see Israel.
No, it is not a matter of debate. Iranian clergy and politicians say it openly. Syria has already tried to invade Israel three times and the same ruthless Ba'athists are still in power. Syria is also a major backer of Hezbollah. Do you not understand how universally despised Israel is in the Arab world? Or how much of that hatred is based on plain old Jew hatred and sedition? You're not satisfied with the economic embargoes and academic boycotts imposed on Israel by Arab regimes, you want Britain to boycott Israel as well. I find that repugnant. And the threat from Hamas is negligible? How do you work that out? Hamas are a threat to all democracies. They are a fascist, totalitarian, Jew hating, murderous regime that kill and torture their own. Like all such regimes they need to be contained - as Israel and Egypt are currently doing. And I'd like to see what you think of their "firecrackers" if one landed on your child's school. The occupation will end, when there is peace between Israel and the arab world. The occupation is the RESULT of years of terrorism and violence against Israel by neighbouring states and state-sponsored terrorists, NOT the other way round. End Israel's military presence in Judea and Samaria without peace and you snuff out Israel's existence and along with that the future of the Jewish people. For Israelis, suzanna, the holocaust has not ended, they've just got better at defending themselves. Your group is seeking to dismantle that defence. |
19 January, 2011 - 12:58 Rate this: -2 points | And what about the amount of ordnance that is fired into Gaza and The West Bank? With far more deadly consequences. Are Palestinians permitted the right of self defence? Should Palestinians be allowed to feel secure? |
19 January, 2011 - 13:04 Rate this: 2 points | It's called deterrence. You hit me, I'll hit you back harder until you stop hitting me. |
19 January, 2011 - 13:05 Rate this: 2 points | Or do you think Israel launches strikes just for the fun of it? |
jose (not verified) 19 January, 2011 - 13:07 Rate this: 3 points |
Since they attack, your question is just silly.
Better vote for pacifists, next time. 'Palestinians' (remember, this is a totally artificial category) missed one opportunity after another to make peace with Israel, as did half of its neighbours. |
jose (not verified) 19 January, 2011 - 13:15 Rate this: 3 points | By the way, suzanna, you've been very shy about the daily war crimes committed by 'Palestinians'. Please talk a bit about them here, some day... |
19 January, 2011 - 13:29 Rate this: 3 points | Vanessa Paradis Ah yes - Joe le Taxi - and shes married to Johnny Depp. Err ..... thats all I can think of . |
19 January, 2011 - 13:37 Rate this: -2 points | If Israel was serious about peace then they would stop the illegal settlements. This is the minimum that has been requested by Blair, Clinton, the EU, Russia, The Arab league and the BDS movement, and dozens of Human Rights organisations around the world. So why not just stop the settlements even just to demonstrate that that peace rather than occupation is the objective? Anyway got to go. See you. Final word from Bansky (on the subject of open air prisons) Banksy's feelings about the barrier are made explicit in a statement which says the wall "essentially turns Palestine into the world's largest open prison." |
jose (not verified) 19 January, 2011 - 13:41 Rate this: 1 point |
You mean the legal settlements in the disputed territories, right? 'Palestinians' reject all negotiations. Israel is the only partner of peace in the area. |
19 January, 2011 - 23:19 Rate this: 2 points | There you have it - suzanna thinks Palestinian terrorism, which it initiates, is the "right to self defence". Suzanna, you are one sick individual. If Judea and Samaria are "occupied", from whom are they occupied? Think carefully now. |
19 January, 2011 - 23:20 Rate this: 2 points | Suzanna says it's a metter of debate whether Syria or Iran have genocidal ambitions. Only the most ignorant, or wilfully blind, could make such a stupid remark. |
19 January, 2011 - 23:25 Rate this: 2 points | I note that Suzanna did not reply to any of the points I put to her earlier. She's more used to being able to spout propaganda without having it challenged. Note that she has quickly absented herself here, when the going gets too detailed. Such people know tthemselves that they aren't on solid ground. |
jose (not verified) 20 January, 2011 - 06:17 Rate this: 2 points | Same thing for propmax, myopic, wheelchair... |
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Yes thanks Vanessa, indeed! We'll keep our money for investing in Israel! Drone development, Iron Dome deployment, and Stuxnet II programming are projects that need our money!