LSE Audience Throws Out Anti-Israel Motion


By Jonathan Hoffman
January 13, 2011
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http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/events/2011/20110113t1800vOT.aspx

You read it right. The motion "This House believes in an academic boycott of Israel" was decisively rejected on a show of hands. Of an audience of around 700, 55-60% voted against the motion.

The debate was co-organised by LSE Israel Society and LSE Palestine Society.

One can debate whether the Israel Society should have agreed to organise such a debate (since the motion assumes that Israel needs to be "punished", the only question being how).

But given that it did, much of the credit goes to the brilliant speaker against the motion, Professor Daniel Hochhauser, who took apart the odious John Chalcraft who tried to maintain the fiction that an academic boycott would be on institutions not people and spewd all the tired old slogans (eg "Zionism has a stock of colonial stereotypes").

Chalcraft supports Hezbollah:

http://hurryupharry.org/2011/01/09/why-dont-you-2/#comment-548293

http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=601

Incredible to think that he is entrusted with the teaching of young people.....

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stellasolomons

14 January, 2011 - 09:44

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LSE lectures, open to the public, send me brochures on thier lectures and three years ago, for a few months, several lectures were preaching the opposite. Professor Hochhauser has done us all a big big favour. Applause!


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 09:45

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Good stuff. Muppets like Chalcraft don't have a chance when their views are subject to scrutiny.


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 09:47

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Now how long before Prof. Hochhauser gets slandered on Wikipedia?


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 10:50

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http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/43726/jewish-leader-threatened-lse-isr...

Seems the haters didn't like the result of the debate ...


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 10:52

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Sounds about right - we don't mind debating with you, provided you agree with us afterwards, otherwise we'll beat you up!


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:01

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40% supported an antisemitic motion. Not what I would call cause for celebration.


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 11:02

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I agree, but that's what is has come to in the UK of 2011.........


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:04

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"Whilst we are hosting this listing, LSE Events does not take responsibility for the running and administration of this event."

We only host it. Nothing to do with us, guv. We saw nuttin'.
Typical leftie scum.
Remind anyone of the Law Society?


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 11:04

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I wonder what the result would have been 5, 10 or 15 years ago though. The far-left has always hated Israel from the days of Attlee and universities are pretty radical places.


Jez Waterman

14 January, 2011 - 11:04

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Mr Hoffman, you should be scared. 55% is a very narrow margin. 10 years ago it would have been a 90% margin. Support is slipping away fast. Remember too that the question asked was whether a boycott was helpful or not. There is a clear implication that something needs to be done about Israel, if not a boycott then something else. Those who do not think that a boycott is the way may well have other sanctions in mind.
When even people like Tzipi Livni describes a wave of evil in Israel, you should recognise that you are losing support and fast. Tzipi is not the only one who has noticed what is happening.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/10/evil-spirit-israel-tzipi-liv...
It will be interesting to see if you resort to the usual default position "she is a self-hating" jew etc. etc.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:05

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I agree, Jonathan - that was sort of implied in my comment. This country is now a sewer.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:06

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"something needs to be done about Israel"

Spoken like a true filthy antisemite.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:09

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Martha Mundy? Another name to bear in mind with revulsion, then. British 'academics' behave more and more like Neanderthals.


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 11:16

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"There is a clear implication that something needs to be done about Israel, if not a boycott then something else."

In your demented brain, Waterbrain......


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 11:21

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This country is now a sewer.

Yes but the US is just as bad, if not worse, and the rest of Europe is in dire trouble.

The problem is that it takes brave people to speak out for Israel, because the other side has the ever-present threat of violence on their side, and radical Islam, which everyone is scared sh*tless to even talk about, let alone confront.


Jez Waterman

14 January, 2011 - 11:33

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Yoni addressing Jonathan. Talking to the mirror perhaps. A nice ploy but nobody will be fooled
As to Mr Hoffman's suggestion that the fact that "something needs to be done exists only in my demented brain. Sorry, but Tzipi also thinks something needs to be done. She says --
"An evil spirit has been sweeping over the country, and it is our duty to stand up against this wave"
Over to you. Tzipi wants you to stand up against the evil spirit sweeping over Israel. Will you help, Mr Hoffman, or are are you ok with an evil Israel?


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 11:40

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A nice ploy but nobody will be fooled

You were, but then, you are a fool.

Sorry, but Tzipi also thinks something needs to be done.

Maybe she was talking about a Cast Lead II, which would then be the most intelligent thing she said until Cast Lead I.


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 11:42

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It's funny too how the same people who were calling for Tzipi to be arrested for war crimes are now quoting her!!


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 11:43

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And you come here talking of evil?

You seem to imply that Waterdrop uses double standards.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:56

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Except that it's not a 'ploy', Jose, other than in the 2-cell brains of antisemites, since Jonathan and myself are distinct people who have never even met.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:56

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Except that it's not a 'ploy', Jose, other than in the 2-cell brains of antisemites, since Jonathan and myself are distinct people who have never even met.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 11:56

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Except that it's not a 'ploy', Jose, other than in the 2-cell brains of antisemites, since Jonathan and myself are distinct people who have never even met.


mattpryor

14 January, 2011 - 12:26

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You seem to imply that Waterdrop uses double standards.

Double standards of this kind are of course a sure sign of mental illness and hatred for mankind, as well as you-know-what.


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 12:48

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Double standards of this kind are of course a sure sign of mental illness and hatred for mankind, as well as you-know-what

Just I-know-what in fact. These kind of guys have no love at all for humanity, which explains why they don't care about any war crime and human rights' abuse in the world. Except those allegedly committed by Israel, because it allows them to blame Israel and the Jews.
The rule of the game is to find whatever 'reason' to blame Israel and the Jews, while the 'reason' itself has no importance whatsoever for them.


Jez Waterman

14 January, 2011 - 13:46

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Livni is an antisemite when judged by the yardstick usually applied on this blog. Here is the link again
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/10/evil-spirit-israel-tzipi-liv...
She says the country (Israel) is being swept by a wave of evil and wants us all to stand up against it.
In law, Mr Hoffman, silence denotes assent. If you don't denounce her, you agree with her as indeed I do. But if a member of JFJFP said exactly what Livni has said, you would not hesitate before denouncing the person as a self-hating Jew and an anti-semite. Double standards or what? Mattpryor says double standards are an indication of mental illness. He could be right


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 14:10

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Livni is an antisemite when judged by the yardstick usually applied on this blog

Your yardstick has about 36 inches less than mine. Livni doesn't criticise only Israel or does not criticise it for the same ills one can find in any democratic country.
She is just unintelligent and mistaken.

You, Waterdrop, is the one who applies double standards.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 14:12

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"In law, Mr Hoffman, silence denotes assent"

What is this deranged loon screeching about this time?


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 14:13

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The fact is that Waterdrop doesn't even understand what double standards are. No wonder why he applies them so often while someone with some brain would avoid doing that.


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 15:16

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Birdbrain, there is nothing antisemitic about saying "Israel is being swept by a wave of evil"

You need to read the EUMC Definition


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 15:25

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Hmm, I seem to have been censored.

It's not antisemitic to criticise your own country: Livni is entitled to do that.

It IS antisemitic to obsessively demonise one (and usually, only one) foreign country, using antisemitic lies in the process.


Jez Waterman

14 January, 2011 - 15:50

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Thanks Mr Hoffman, you are right. There is nothing wrong with saying that Israel is being swamped by a tide of evil. It is a simple statement of fact, but I never thought you would admit it. It will revisit you every time you call someone an anti-semite for criticising the racist state.
Fantastic news that the Bay company stores of Canada, and now the John Lewis partnership in UK have banned Ahava products. Will someont please pass the news to the EDL? As an anti-fascist I dont know how to contact them
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/01/14-0


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 15:55

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"There is nothing wrong with saying that Israel is being swamped by a tide of evil."

Peabrain, that is not what I said.

I said "there is nothing antisemitic about saying "Israel is being swept by a wave of evil" "

Like all your revolting kind, you distort, twist and manipulate what pro-Israel people say.


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 16:00

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It will revisit you every time you call someone an anti-semite for criticising the racist state.

Interesting to note the antisemitic admission of Waterdrop.
For him, not only Israel is a "racist state", but it is the ONLY "racist state", ie "the racist state".
For him, Iran is not a racist state. For him, Saudi Arabia is not a racist state. For him, Sudan is not a racist state. Etc.

Double standards are a sure sign of antisemitism.


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 16:02

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As an anti-fascist I dont know how to contact them

Then, you are an Armchair anti-fascist.

But as an active antisemite, you should be able to do it, Waterdrop!


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 16:10

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".......the John Lewis partnership in UK have banned Ahava products"

Prove it, peabrain


Jez Waterman

14 January, 2011 - 18:00

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Mr Hoffman A tide of evil, a wave of evil. Lets compromise and call it a tidal-wave of evil. At lease you don't disagree with the use of the word evil as a description of the racist state.
As far as the John Lewis partnership is concerned I have no personal knowledge about their decision to ban Ahava from their stores. Possibly they are concerned about a successful criminal action.
Anyway it seems to be a fact here is the link again
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/01/14-0
Don't be too hasty in denying it Mr. Hoffman, you've been eating a lot of that humble pie recently.


amber

14 January, 2011 - 18:08

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Looking at the comments above, observing waterman is like watching an accident over and over.


jose (not verified)

14 January, 2011 - 18:43

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At lease you don't disagree with the use of the word evil as a description of the racist state.

Interesting to note the self-confirmation by Waterdrop of his antisemitism.
For him, not only Israel is a "racist state", but it is the ONLY "racist state", ie "the racist state".
For him, Iran is not a racist state. For him, Saudi Arabia is not a racist state. For him, Sudan is not a racist state. Etc.
Double standards are a sure sign of antisemitism.


Jonathan Hoffman

14 January, 2011 - 18:53

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Waterbrain, you stupid Jew-hating pr*ck:

I said "there is nothing antisemitic about saying "Israel is being swept by a wave of evil" "

I made no comment about whether I agreed with the statement and you have no f*cking right to assume my views

We will see what John Lewis has to say. The last time they were accused of a boycott, it was a total fabrication. I understand they will be making a statement.

You claim to be an "antifascist". You are of course a fraud, since you behave in a fascistic way on this blog.


amber

14 January, 2011 - 19:01

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People like waterman pretend to be anti-fascist and anti-racist - except when it comes to Jews.

waterman, take your irrational hatred somewhere else.


Jez Waterman

14 January, 2011 - 19:55

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Hi Mr Hoffman
Sorry you think I am fascistic. You would know more about Nazis than I do. Did you know that you have set an international trend? The Kahanist fascists of Toronto, the Jewish Defence League are working with the English Defence League, just like you. Birds of a feather.
Mind you both you and the Nazis might be able to rest up on Saturdays in future. Looks like Ahava is on the way out


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 19:58

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But Amber, hating Jews and lying about them is his hobby. He'll have no point to his life if he can't indulge this hatred. He might even top himself.
And then again ...


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 19:59

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"You would know more about Nazis than I do"

Highly unlikely, as you obviously get all your Jew-hating bile from the neo-Nazi sites you frequent.


Yoni1

14 January, 2011 - 20:41

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One has to wonder: why do scum like Jez and Simonson and Myopic and Millibrain come here, time after time? At each visit, they are shown up to be thick and ignorant Jew-haters. Does this cause them pleasure? Are they masochists?


jandrsimonson

14 January, 2011 - 21:10

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Let's get this in perspective....A motion calling for an academic boycott of Israel received 45% support

That surprises me I don't know anyone that is much fussed about an academic boycott of Israel

But I know lots of people Jewish and non Jewish that feel that as a matter of urgency " something has to be done "


amber

14 January, 2011 - 23:24

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waterman, calling a Jew a Nazi is despicable. You should be thoroughly ashamed of your antisemitism. I have flagged your comment as offensive.


jose (not verified)

15 January, 2011 - 05:58

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But I know lots of people Jewish and non Jewish that feel that as a matter of urgency " something has to be done "

HAHAHA... No doubt something has to be done: remove the HAMAS from power, dissolve the corrupt PA and replace it by real democrats that will start the negotiations without stalling all the time.

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