 | By Jonathan Hoffman
February 9, 2010 | Share |
The Oxfprd Union Society is a private debating club (£200 for life membership).
On Monday night there was a members-only meeting to hear Danny Ayalon, the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel.
Someone inside the chamber shouted at him 'Itbah Al-Yahud' ('Kill the Jews')
9 February, 2010 - 07:47 Rate this: 0 points | Imagine if someone had shouted ""itbah al-Muslimi".................. |
9 February, 2010 - 09:53 Rate this: 0 points | Jonathan, I hope it's not one of those things Jim Callaghan described as a lie that has got half way around the world before the truth has had time to put its socks on. And it's idbah al-muslimiyoun, if we want to be accurate. |
9 February, 2010 - 10:12 Rate this: 0 points | "Allegedly, Jonathan, allegedly" This incident was reported by Danny Ayalon and there are witnesses -- so casting doubt on its authenticity is reprehensible. But entirely in character |
9 February, 2010 - 10:22 Rate this: 0 points | http://theedgeofwhere.blogspot.com/2010/02/death-to-jews-at-oxford-union... http://www.oyvagoy.com/2010/02/09/danny-ayalon-at-oxford/ More here ... from an eye witness Those anonymous Trolls who say "allegedly" should hang their heads in shame. Cowardly hiding behind an alias does not absolve them in any way. |
9 February, 2010 - 10:24 Rate this: 0 points | Danny Ayalon? That wouldn't be the same Danny Ayalon, of the fascist anti-Arab Yisrael Beiteinu Party, who had to apologise to not only the Turkish ambassador to Israel for behaving like Charlie Chaplin in the Great Dictator but also had to apologise to a Saudi Prince for making racist comments about his country? Now there's a reliable source. |
9 February, 2010 - 10:27 Rate this: 0 points | Oy va Goy isn't an alias? And the edge of where? What strange names they have then? Now why do I doubt the veracity of the posting..? |
9 February, 2010 - 10:36 Rate this: 0 points | OyVaGoy is Chas Newkey-Burden - it says so on the blog EdgeOfWhere is MRSmith - it says so on the blog They are not cowards |
9 February, 2010 - 10:45 Rate this: 0 points | Mr Smith? Does he go to many hotels, Jonathan? Speaking of revisionism, did you ever get to the bottom of the argument over Holocaust survivors being those who escaped the Nazis from 1933 onwards? Hmmm? |
9 February, 2010 - 10:48 Rate this: 0 points | And as for all these diversionary tactics, Jonathan…One has to wonder about their purpose |
9 February, 2010 - 12:04 Rate this: 0 points | Yep. It's an open secret who OyVaGoy is, and Chas is one of those courageous bloggers for whom all we who support Israel against traducement are extremely grateful. |
9 February, 2010 - 12:39 Rate this: 0 points | Hey Jono, What do you expect to be greeted with open arms? Geographically Israel is surrounded by muslim countries and those people have a shared culture - so very unlikely you'll ever be excepted and less so ever trusted or embraced - so you may as well get used to it. |
9 February, 2010 - 13:12 Rate this: 0 points | Lance, I think even he can expect not to hear incitement to murder, if that indeed happened. |
9 February, 2010 - 13:15 Rate this: 0 points | Lance that boil - or rather that disgusting assumption that calling for the murder of Jews can be justified by reference to "freedom of speech"! |
9 February, 2010 - 13:32 Rate this: 0 points | Surely, nurse, you mean boil that lance. <(:-)> |
9 February, 2010 - 14:11 Rate this: 0 points | What an outrage! And as for The Cure singing 'Killing an Arab' . . . And to think that we only get upset at the 1.5 million collectively punished, the bulldozings, the sonic booms, the incursions, the WALL - (a WALL for God's sake) - the check points, the hundreds of killed children, the beatings, broken bones, arbitrary arrests, administrative detention, torture, settler attacks, air to ground missiles, phosphorous, flechettes, mines, watch towers, electric fences . . . . . Let's bring a holocaust on the Palestinians I say. (oh, has someone already suggested that?) |
9 February, 2010 - 16:27 Rate this: 0 points | Apparently, and after checking, the worst that was shouted was: "You will be tried like Milosevich" So it was one of those things Jim Callaghan described as a lie that has got half way around the world before the truth has had time to put its socks on. |
9 February, 2010 - 17:41 Rate this: 0 points | This is an absolutely disgraceful incident. Oxford Uni need to fully investigate and find out which student said this. Thanks Jonathan for bringing this to our attention. I shall be writing to Oxford student union. |
9 February, 2010 - 17:54 Rate this: 0 points | @Amber Oxford Union Society, not Oxford Student Union |
9 February, 2010 - 20:27 Rate this: 0 points | Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Jonathan. Now that the JC carries a report - which shows precisely how horrendous the antisemitism was - it will be interesting to see whether the BBC picks it up. |
9 February, 2010 - 20:59 Rate this: 0 points | Readers really should follow chambers' link to a very virulent anti-semitic website. chambers is obviously an anti-semitic supporter of this site. 70 years ago that would have been a problem. Life is sure better than it was 70 years ago! |
9 February, 2010 - 21:40 Rate this: 0 points | We had Raymee Jones yesterday, Avraham, posting grotesque comments c & p'd from websites as nastily antisemitic as it's possible to find. In all fairness to Moshe, he was as outraged as anybody. The offending comments have been removed. |
9 February, 2010 - 22:04 Rate this: 0 points | Yvetta, |
9 February, 2010 - 23:46 Rate this: 0 points | Thanks for the correction, Jonathan. It seems from your latest blog that the Oxford Union Society are taking it seriously. |
10 February, 2010 - 00:07 Rate this: 0 points | Yes. I spoke to the President Stuart Cullen (Christ Church) today, he sounds good. There were two oddball Presidents in 2007/8 but by and large, Oxford students are mostly sensible. |
10 February, 2010 - 01:57 Rate this: 0 points | Avraham, if you don't like a free country, and free speech and thought, why don't you go move to a country run by religious fundamentalists, and if you wasn't made aware aliyah is worth more to your soul than keeping the 613 laws (so you could be doubly blessed). Don't wear out the word you use so often (when someone disagrees with you), as you want to maintain its value and power don't you? |
10 February, 2010 - 02:30 Rate this: 0 points | Avraham. For the record, Israel couldn't take out Britain - Isreal have never fought a modern country - they would be flattened if they did. As a son to RAF members I think I can safely say that you know nothing of war or strategy, Israel would not survive a war that went on more than a few weeks, and with a land mass and population such as Israel they wouldn't have much chance (against for example Iran with a large population). Remember what Torah teaches 'pride comes before a fall' (and if Jews in 70AD had learnt that basic lesson they wouldn't been banished from the land for 2000 years). But do you know, I don't want to be drawn onto your war hungry patch, as I don't believe in it. |
10 February, 2010 - 08:42 Rate this: 0 points | Lance, cut that Jew-baiting nonsense out - that reference to 70CE in such a tone is totally gratuitous. |
10 February, 2010 - 09:29 Rate this: 0 points | Mr Reiss makes me laugh. He really does. If Israel could beat Britain in two weeks, pace Reiss, how come it took more than four to lose against the 1500 irregulars of Hizbollah and several thousand poorly armed Hamasniks? Then of course Israel, with its F15s, F16s, Apaches, Merkavot, 155-, 175-, and 203-mm howitzers, its Golani, Givati, Tzanchanim, Nachal, Sayarot and Shayetet, and 8200, its mempeh'im, magadim, ougdonerim, its poum and various other high-level courses, couldn't see off 13-year-old Palestinians armed with no more than tyres, rocks and perhaps catapults. |
10 February, 2010 - 10:00 Rate this: 0 points | zaFarti, the more you write, the more you demonstrate how little you know. Regular armies always have problems fighting terrorists and guerilla warfare. The USA in Vietnam was there for years, and didn't win. Ther are methods for paralyzing large countries, hitting just a few selected points. In WWII the bombing of Coventry taught Britain that hitting communications and transport centers does far more damage than hitting military targets. For this reaso the famous bombing of Dresden in Feb 1945 neglected military targets and concentrated chiefly on the centers I have mentioned above. Anyway the question is academic - Britain doesn't appear on any list of Israel's priorities. chambers: - your ignorance of Judaism screams out loud with everything you write. Why don't you stick to your New Testament? |
10 February, 2010 - 10:05 Rate this: 0 points | Mr Reiss, I forgot to mention Israeli Navy ships Achi Chanit and Achi, Shetechanek and the Dolphin u-boats from Germany. |
10 February, 2010 - 11:45 Rate this: 0 points | Avraham. The country is crying out for more recruits for aliyah - why don't you go and make them happy (and yourself in a backward religious state), and as you seem to be blood thirsty you could also join the idf sit in a tank (like a little boy) imagining that you could take on any country and win - even more so the thousands of civilians armed with stones. |
10 February, 2010 - 13:03 Rate this: 0 points | Lance, I've seen enough of your postings now to realise that you are a dyed-in-the-wool antisemite. You are not welcome here. A frank exchange of views is to be encouraged, but gratuitous Jew-baiting (which you manifest on several threads) is beyond the pale. |
10 February, 2010 - 16:14 Rate this: 0 points | Gold.sarah has a point! We get very upset about one person saying 'kill the jews', but no one gives a sod for jews that are actually 'killing the arabs' (and not just with a vocal outburst. If you want to see what I mean, look at the TWO links below. http://jewsribsinbearjaw.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/phosphorus-bomb-vic... http://www.opednews.com/articles/To-Gaza-With-Love-by-CODEPINK-090218-40... |
10 February, 2010 - 18:10 Rate this: 0 points | Lance, your "logic" is incredible. You're just making excuses for a horrible antisemitic incident. How sick. |
10 February, 2010 - 19:29 Rate this: 0 points | He's a flamer, Amber, who is not above stooping to antisemitic stereotyping. It's a pity that people of his sort, who obviously enjoy taunting Jewish posters with offensive asides, infest this site. But the wonder is that there aren't more of them, |
10 February, 2010 - 19:49 Rate this: 0 points | Lance chamber-pot, I have lived in Israel since 1964, served in the IDF in a specific military profession - I'd love to demonstrate my prowess on you - and served in the IDF reserves as a combat soldier for 20 years. Now, put your money where your mouth is, miserable anti-semite: go to Gaza, and let me know when you get there. The days of Jew-baiting are long gone; all the Jew-baiters have left nowadays is infiltrating into Jewish blogs, pretending to be someone with a 3-digit IQ, and lobbing stupid, unbacked comments around. Harmless, harmless. TG for the State of Israel, Jew-baiter. |
10 February, 2010 - 19:54 Rate this: 0 points | This is really funny: I think if I post a direct url, the blog software deletes it. But if you google on: you'll see something interesting (quite a few, in fact). |
10 February, 2010 - 20:06 Rate this: 0 points | It gets even funnier ... Friend Lance revealed to us that mummy and daddy served in the R.A.F. (Daddy washed propellers, Mummy was a mattress). So if you Google on: +chambers +R.A.F. you get: -which about sums up this Jew-baiter's intellectual capabilities. |
10 February, 2010 - 22:56 Rate this: 0 points | Yvetta, thanks for the warning. Surely the JC should throw such silly and hateful people off, so that we can have serious posters? |
10 February, 2010 - 23:28 Rate this: 0 points | moshetzarfati2 seems to doubt my authenticity as an eyewitness, on the grounds that I am using an internet alias. Ironic really, given that so does he. In any case, as anyone who reads my blog will know, I quite clearly am a Jewish student at Oxford, and also quite obviously do not have any kind of hardline zionist agenda. I gave my account of the events at Danny Ayalon's talk at the Union faithfully. moshetzarfati2, rather than making snide comments about my name ('Mr Smith? Does he go to many hotels,') I'd encourage you to take the time to actually look at my blog. My mother tells me it's really a rather good read. |
11 February, 2010 - 11:33 Rate this: 0 points | @edgeofwhere Pl check your private messages |
Lance Chambers
9 February, 2010 - 01:12
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Give it a rest dude. Go and have yourself a cold shower, take up a hobby (knitting or something). Your Superman outfit's fading and you're looking a bit silly with the beer belly popping out from under it.