Jordan Is Palestine -The Reality Gathers Pace


By Jon_i_Cohen
November 11, 2010
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MK Prof. Aryeh Eldad (National Union) is planning to hold a conference under the heading 'Jordan is Palestine' in the coming days. Dutch politician Geert Wilders will attend.

"The purpose of the conference is to present an alternative plan to the two-state solution,” Eldad told Arutz Sheva's Hebrew language service. “We are saying that there already is a Palestinian state, Jordan, 70% of whose residents are Palestinians,” he explained. “It already takes up three quarters of the territory of the British Mandate, so that the partition has already been carried out. We demand that Jordan be recognized as [the Palestinian state] formally, and not just de facto."

Eldad says that all Israel needs to do, in order to find a partner for the idea, is to raise the plan publicly. “The world does not pay attention to these statements because we still have a taboo on merely broaching the subject.”

Last year, Eldad added, he initiated a debate on this matter at the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, but MK Tzachi HaNegbi, Chairman of the Committee, was concerned it could “upset the Jordanians” and decided to bury it.

Eldad said that Wilders sees clearly the reality in Europe, which is gradually turning Muslim – and understands that Israel is the forward position in the West's struggle against Islam. “If Israel falls, the West will fall too,” he said.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140567

and here:-

http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/jordan-is-palestine-says-jordan

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Yehuda Erdman

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 17:20

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Mr Cohen
Jordan is Jordan, Palestine is Palestine and Israel is Israel.


Jon_i_Cohen

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 17:23

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Sorry Mr Erdman, but you are mistaken, from an histiriographical context Jordan is Palestine and Israel is Israel, there is nor has there ever been a separate State called "Palestine"..


amber

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 17:30

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No Mr Erdman, Palestine doesn't exist. Never has as any independent entity - ever. And so-called "Palestinian" nationalism was invented in the 1960's.


Kahina

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 17:32

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I have always believed that Queen Rania of Jordan should get involved in the peace negotiations.

She is charismatic, powerful and Palestinian.

She could do a lot of good.


Jon_i_Cohen

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 17:32

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The reality is gathering pace as it is now being discussed on world-wide platform.
There is no other solution, to have an Arab state in Gaza is a non starter as is an Arab state in Judea & Samaria, what you call the west bank.
Undr NO circumstances will 3 Arab states be created in the region when all historical treaties, Balfour, San Remo, UN allowed for 1 - i.e. Jordan.


telegramsam

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 17:37

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Yehuda, when this bunch are forced into a corner as they have been by the new, moderate and sane Zionist leadership here, they lose their marbles. Ignore them. It's for the best.


Yehuda Erdman

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:04

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Palestine will exist when the two state solution is implemented.
Mr Cohen
The UN voted for partition in 1947. Furthermore the British Government had a Mandate in Palestine from 1917 to 1948, and as of 1930 successive British Governments decided that partition of Palestine in to two states was the only way to resolve the differences between the two people that could not be solved by living together in one state. I am fully aware that the Arab states surrounding Israel rejected the partition proposal and attacked Israel, but subsequently lost the War of Independence.
Nevertheless the underlying requirement for partition remains.
The previous division of Palestine in 1920 agreed between Britain and France created Palestine and Transjordan (a British Protectorate). It also divided Syria and Lebanon which came under French influence.
Some commentators above have suggested that because 70% of the population of Jordan is Palestinian, de facto Jordan is Palestine. This is just poppycock because Jordan today is a sovereign state which has signed a peace agreement with Israel. Why should they renounce their sovereignty just to fit in with your ideas?

Telegramsam
Thank you for your advise and you are probably right, but I see they have you in their sights as well. This means you are doing something right.

Amber
Palestinian Nationalism existed before 1948 and in fact the struggle between Zionism as a political movement and Pan Arabism has gone on since at least 1850. You need to hit the books and learn what really happened in the middle east. Do not rely on Mr Cohen or Mr Reiss because they are feeding you propaganda based on their world view of what should be and not the facts on the ground.


mattpryor

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:39

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Nobody is suggesting that Jordan relinquishes sovereignty, just that they give basic rights and citizenship to their Palestinian majority, rather than using their statelessness as a political football against Israel for the next 100 years. The same could be said for Lebanon.

Please explain what's so wrong with that?

The Hashemites played their part in causing the refugee (and terrorist) problem, why don't they share any responsibility in sorting it out? Why does Israel shoulder all the blame? Why did the Arab League advise the PLO to pull out of peace negotiations?

I don't understand your attitude really Yehuda. It doesn't make sense to me. I accept that Israel is being made to accommodate a Palestinian state, and Israelis seems to accept this state of affairs if it means peace, but I don't see any reason to be happy about it. In fact I think it's extremely unjust.


Jon_i_Cohen

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:48

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Mr Erdman
Your last point - "facts on the ground" sums it up.


Jon_i_Cohen

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:48

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Mr Erdman
Your last point - "facts on the ground" sums it up.


Jon_i_Cohen

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:49

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and not some "airy fairy" left-wing mis interpretation of history.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:55

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Amber wouldn't know a fact about Palestinian nationalism if it bit her on her twirling ta tas. After being told by different sources, and given sites to read, she still insists Palestinian nationaism is a product of the 1960s. I think she drank the kool aide.


Watchful Iris (not verified)

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 18:59

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*nationalism


amber

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 20:27

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Iris, you've made that lame joke about ten times now - and it really wasn't that funny the first time.

A specific "Palestinian" nationalism only emerged after the 6 day war. That is why there were no calls for a "Palestinian" state between 1948-67, when Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria and the Old City of Jerusalem (ethnically cleansing every Jew in those areas in the process), and Egypt occupied Gaza. No calls at all. Jordan is indeed 4/5ths of the area deemed "Palestine" which is an arbitrary colonial invention itself.

Palestine is no more a country than Great Yarmouth.


amber

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 20:28

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Erdman, Pan-Arab nationalism has nothing to do with a specific "Palestinian" nationalism.

Iris has made the same error.


amber

Fri, 11/19/2010 - 20:29

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Iris, I think you must have a sexual inferiority complex of some kind. Why do you keep making references to stripping?

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