jaw dropping admission from Melanie Philips

11 January, 2011 - 17:47

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Yeah.."we need more spokespeople with this clear insight."

*eyeroll*

11 January, 2011 - 17:56

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To help the slow-of thinking, i.e. the 2 morons above:

The Arabs are free to return to their original country. It's NOT Israel: it is Saudi ARABIA.

11 January, 2011 - 18:03

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Is that because Arab and Saudi Arabia both have an upper case A in them ?

11 January, 2011 - 18:03

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Who gave you the point?....Yoni or Jonathan?

11 January, 2011 - 18:18

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Well at least we can say there's nothing wrong with Melanie's math....

11 January, 2011 - 18:23

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armchair, this is a common mistake. The Jews do not return to Israel as refugees. They return to Israel because it is their ancestral homeland - and only theirs. The area has only ever been an independent entity when it was a Jewish state - it has never been a state of any other nation at any time in history. In other words, the Jews have a unique claim to it.

"Palestinians" (who include a large proportion of Arabs from Egypt, Syria and other neighbours) are the only people on earth who are afforded refugee status on a hereditary basis - this is quite deliberate, in order to keep the problem alive. It has also been the excuse of the neighbouring Arab states to stop assimilating them for the past 6 decades.

11 January, 2011 - 18:28

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Yeah but Melanie tells us that ancestral arguments are irrelevasnt to the arithmetic. Amby I hope you and Melanie are not gonna fall out over this

jose (not verified)

11 January, 2011 - 18:33

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Very good points, amber.

I add that the neigbouring Arab states don't have to assimilate 'Palestinians' since they are all Arabs with no distinct language, culture or ethnicity. Maybe some slang words are different...

A second point is that, not only the definition of a 'Palestinian' refugee is racist (ie inherited by right of birth), it is also sexist (the descendant of a female refugee are not considered as refugees).

UNRWA is the only racist and sexist organisation sponsored by the UN with our tax dollars, euros and shekels.

11 January, 2011 - 18:35

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Off topic....back to Melanie....

jose (not verified)

11 January, 2011 - 18:36

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So there a no more than 100,000 real 'Palestinian refugees' today and in 30 years, the problem will be solved forever.
The only change needed is to transfer UNRWA responsibilities to UNHCR. Then the UN costs will dramatically fall.

11 January, 2011 - 18:42

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Off topic.

11 January, 2011 - 18:43

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"Is that because Arab and Saudi Arabia both have an upper case A in them?"

Well, that's Nil Points for our resident illiterate, who has now failed History 100.00001.

11 January, 2011 - 18:45

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"UNRWA is the only racist and sexist organisation sponsored by the UN with our tax dollars, euros and shekels."

But hardly the only utterly corrupt one.

Who organises the racist Durban conferences, btw?

11 January, 2011 - 18:45

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Yonithan if I wasn't a live and let live person I would give you a negative point for that

11 January, 2011 - 18:46

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Yonithan and Armchair, you're both off topic.

11 January, 2011 - 18:46

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Yonithan and Armchair, you're both off topic.

11 January, 2011 - 18:47

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sorry

11 January, 2011 - 18:48

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Put a sock in it, Myopic. A smelly one.

11 January, 2011 - 18:48

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sorry

jose (not verified)

11 January, 2011 - 18:48

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It is perfectly on-topic, Myopic. The fact that there are not really 7,000,000 refugees (in fact even UNRWA counts half of these, because of the sexist rule, so that was also perfectly on-topic). There are about 100,000 refugees due to natural attrition.
All refugees are today older than 64 years. And in 30 years, nearly none will be left and no "right of return" (a fiction that no refugee was ever granted) will ever happen.
So bye-bye "Palestine from Jordan to the sea" and bye-bye East Jerusalem.

11 January, 2011 - 18:53

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Off topic.

Joe Millis

11 January, 2011 - 19:14

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If he's not yoni ish hoff he's yoni ach-shel

11 January, 2011 - 19:14

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er...no she doesn't armchair. I really can't help you if your impoverished intellect is unable to keep up.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand? Israel is the homeland of the Jews, and no-one else. It has never been anyone else's.

11 January, 2011 - 19:18

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Is this the jc blog or a catholic confessional for the day ?

Amby I guess we better convey your admission to the 1.5 million non jewish israelis

11 January, 2011 - 20:14

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What is that idiot Millis burbling about now?

So, the factual statement "Israel is the homeland of the Jews, and no-one else" gets negative marks from two morons. And they probably claim not to be antisemites.

11 January, 2011 - 20:15

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And the idiot Iris has delusions of being our head teacher.

11 January, 2011 - 20:27

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You really are hung up on this marks business aren't you yonithan ?

Its just as well you aren't me you would never make it through the day....yes yes Iris I know ...off topic back to Melanie

http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/columnists/42900/my-loyalties-wo...

11 January, 2011 - 20:54

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Sorted.

11 January, 2011 - 21:39

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Julie desperately needs a hobby The disgusting assumption that she thinks she can reduce the Jewish people to a hobby The woman is sick sick sick

11 January, 2011 - 21:46

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What is more depressing is that there are Jewish idiots that fall for it

Just tell her that her deep rooted issues are her issues and please don' drag us Jews into it

11 January, 2011 - 21:56

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armchair, Israel is a Jewish state. That is not to say that you have to be Jewish to be a citizen.

You're quite thick, aren't you? Your level of "debate" is truly pathetic - you are consistently pounded into the ground.

I take it you have backed down on your previous absurd claim comparing Israel's laws of return for Jews to concocted hereditary refugee status.

11 January, 2011 - 21:57

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armchair, are you capable of writing a coherent argument?

Did you get past GCSE?

11 January, 2011 - 22:02

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Amby what do Americans know about GCSE ?

11 January, 2011 - 22:13

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The point is not the marks, quarterdick - the point is that idiots like YOU are so hung up on them that they keep awarding minus marks to factual statements they refuse to accept, because they clash with their demented delusions. Got it? I doubt it.

11 January, 2011 - 22:16

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Yonathan the day I award marks to internet blogs plus or minus you have my permission to shoot me

11 January, 2011 - 22:29

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I am not Yonathan, thicko.

11 January, 2011 - 22:39

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ok so who is yonathan ? The poeple want to know

jose (not verified)

12 January, 2011 - 10:39

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Repeating off-topic won't make it so, Myopic Iris. The number of 'Palestinian refugees' is perfectly on topic here, as it is the one introduced in the post by your buddy Wheelchair Quarterbrain.
Then, as far as the real notion of refugees is concerned, that is the UNHCR one, there are no more than 100,000 'Palestinian' refugees in the whole wild world and there will be every year less of them. In thirty years, the youngest of them will be 94. And then, no right of return for refugees was ever granted by anyone, including UN.