Israel's friends speak out at last. (See below)


By newsmax
July 23, 2010
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Jon_i_Cohen

23 July, 2010 - 08:27

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http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/36089/we-west-need-regai...

Are you referring to this excellent article?

Which concludes with this:- Israel, I repeat, is a fundamental constituent of the West. The West is what it is, thanks to its Judeo-Christian roots. If the Jewish part of those roots is upturned and Israel is lost, then we are lost too. Today, to defend Israel is to defend the West. With this initiative we aspire to make that reality ever more patent.

Or perhaps this excellent feature:-

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/wilders-sets-international-alliance-ag...

Geert Wilders, leading of the Netherlands’ Party for Freedom, sees a “Greater Israel” agenda as part of an epochal conflict between the West and Islam:
“Jordan is Palestine,” said Wilders, who heads the third-largest party in Holland. “Changing its name to Palestine will end the conflict in the Middle East and provide the Palestinians with an alternate homeland.”
Wilders added that Israel deserved a special status in the Dutch government because it was fighting for Jerusalem in its name.
“If Jerusalem falls into the hands of the Muslims, Athens and Rome will be next. Thus, Jerusalem is the main front protecting the West. It is not a conflict over territory but rather an ideological battle, between the mentality of the liberated West and the ideology of Islamic barbarism,” he said.
“There has been an independent Palestinian state since 1946, and it is the kingdom of Jordan.” Wilders also called on the Dutch government to refer to Jordan as Palestine and move its embassy to Jerusalem.

Two non-Jewish, independent and very forceful friends of Israel.


happygoldfish

23 July, 2010 - 11:33

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Jon_i_Cohen: “Jordan is Palestine,” said Wilders, who heads the third-largest party in Holland. “Changing its name to Palestine will end the conflict in the Middle East and provide the Palestinians with an alternate homeland.”

(btw, your link is wrong … i assume you meant http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3907722,00.html ?)

that idea is ridicuolous

the jordanians are not palestinian, and jordan no more wants to absorb the west bank palestinians than israel does, for much the same reason

from the jerusalem post website (02/01/2010)

Nearly half the kingdom's 6 million people are of Palestinian origin and Jordan fears that if Palestinians become the majority, it will disrupt the delicate demographic balance.

(similarly, the lebanese fear that granting citizienship to their palestinian refugees would disturb the christian/moslem balance)

before 1948, jordan was primarily a bedouin country

see the official jordanian website for details … http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/people.html and http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/people1.html

whether the palestinians have an origin distinct from the egyptians or syrians is an interesting question, but the distinction between the palestinians and the jordanians is very clear (click "ethnic groups" at http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/306128/Jordan …)

Ethnic groups
The overwhelming majority of the people are Arabs, principally Jordanians and Palestinians; there is also a significant minority of Bedouin, who were by far the largest indigenous group before the influx of Palestinians following the Arab-Israeli wars of 1948–49 and 1967. Jordanians of Bedouin heritage remain committed to the Hāshimite regime, which has ruled the country since 1923, despite having become a minority there. Although the Palestinian population is often critical of the monarchy, Jordan is the only Arab country to grant wide-scale citizenship to Palestinian refugees. Other minorities include a number of Iraqis who fled to Jordan as a result of the Persian Gulf War and Iraq War. There are also smaller Circassian (known locally as Cherkess or Jarkas) and Armenian communities. A small number of Turkmen (who speak either an ancient form of the Turkmen language or the Azeri language) also reside in Jordan.
The indigenous Arabs, whether Muslim or Christian, used to trace their ancestry from the northern Arabian Qaysī (Maʿddī, Nizārī, ʿAdnānī, or Ismāʿīlī) tribes or from the southern Arabian Yamanī (Banū Kalb or Qaḥṭānī) groups. Only a few tribes and towns have continued to observe this Qaysī-Yamanī division—a pre-Islamic split that was once an important, although broad, source of social identity as well as a point of social friction and conflict.

jordan is a bedouin homeland, but it is becoming increasing palestinian, and is not far off having a palestinian majority …

the bedouin are regarded by israel as distinct from (other) arabs … bedouin fought on the israeli side in the 1948 war , and they serve in the israell army now

there is no way the israelis (or the west) would support a complete palestinian takeover of the bedouin homeland … geert wilders knows that his suggestion is totally unrealistic: he is just trying to stir up trouble

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