![]() | By clevenson
July 17, 2010 | Share |
Is this another PR blunder?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-set-to-force-...
![]() | By clevenson
July 17, 2010 | Share |
Is this another PR blunder?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-set-to-force-...
jose (not verified) 17 July, 2010 - 22:55 Rate this: 0 points |
Maybe we should ask Catrina Stewart to write about this pledge of allegiance that excludes all atheists, buddhists, pagans, animists, ancestors' worshippers, polytheists? That's about half of the world's population. |
18 July, 2010 - 08:27 Rate this: 0 points | The headline itself is a blatant lie. Israel is not forcing all citizens to swear an oath to the Jewish state. It is about to compel all those who want to become a citizen of Israel to swear an oath to a Jewish and democratic state. There should be absolutely no problem with this. Firstly, Israel is a Jewish state. Secondly, no nation should be forced to accept as a citizen someone who does not accept the fundamental values of that nation, indeed, someone who may well be committed to its destruction. |
18 July, 2010 - 08:30 Rate this: 0 points | Incidentally, when did an Arab country last allow a Jew to become a citizen? |
18 July, 2010 - 09:12 Rate this: 2 points |
indeed, but it's the independent's headline the independent's sub-editor has deliberately left out the very first word! ("new") from the opening words of catrina stewart's report …
so, in clevenson's |
18 July, 2010 - 09:37 Rate this: 1 point | Joshua18 writes Firstly, Israel is a Jewish state. |
18 July, 2010 - 13:50 Rate this: 0 points | clevenson; For a full discussion of the issue of the status of non-Jews in a Jewish and Democratic State, read the relevant pages in this book online. http://books.google.com/books?id=dexR7WEUtSgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=isr... |
jose (not verified) 18 July, 2010 - 16:18 Rate this: 0 points |
You do as the buddhists, atheists, polytheists in USA. |
18 July, 2010 - 16:35 Rate this: 0 points | http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/applying/ceremony/ And why not? Or is is just another failed angle "clevenson" and his lefty de legitimisers are trying to find to bash Israel with? If they do not want to swear such and oath then they need not come to Israel, or if there,and do not want to swear the oath, then in the words of the previous Australian Prime Minister , (or was it Dame Edna),"they can b***** *** out of it"! |
jose (not verified) 18 July, 2010 - 16:50 Rate this: 0 points |
That is for Switzerland. The important part is "to respect its traditions", since "tradition" include a number of things. |
jose (not verified) 18 July, 2010 - 17:00 Rate this: 0 points |
Add Canada to the list too. Naturalized citizens must pledge allegiance to the Queen of England too. |
18 July, 2010 - 21:26 Rate this: 0 points | Look at this crap - there are even Jewish "intellectuals" on Facebook agreeing with this outrageous rubbish: Israel Turns Against Its Own |
19 July, 2010 - 17:47 Rate this: 0 points | clevenson ''But if you are one of the 20% who are not Jewish what then?'' then your treated as a second class citizen |
19 July, 2010 - 18:34 Rate this: 0 points | Sensible man ibrows, as are most people in the real world outside our blog. |
19 July, 2010 - 19:03 Rate this: 0 points | the independent's headline is a blatant lie, contradicted by the first word of the actual article clevenson, i see you've just logged-on, so …why did you reprint that lie? (or did you read no further than the headline?) |
jose (not verified) 19 July, 2010 - 19:20 Rate this: 0 points | "then your treated as a second class citizen" clevenson, are atheists treated like second-class citizens in USA. Are anti-monarchists treated as second-class citizens in UK? By the way, how are Christians treated in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and many other Muslim countries? Did you ever open your mouth to criticize them? Will you support the statement that non-Muslims do not enjoy full citizenship (when they are allowed) in most Muslim countries? |
19 July, 2010 - 19:23 Rate this: 0 points | Jose add to your list to second class citizens: Palestinians in the occupied territories and Israel, plus Muslims in France |
jose (not verified) 19 July, 2010 - 19:29 Rate this: 0 points | "Palestinians in the occupied territories and Israel, plus Muslims in France" Palestinians in disputed territories are not and never were Israeli citizens, please get real! |
jose (not verified) 19 July, 2010 - 19:45 Rate this: 0 points | We can clearly see the self-blaming bigotry behing the arguments of our local critics of Israel. Nothing is good in the West, nothing is to be criticized in Muslim countries. Well, I feel happy not to be born in a Muslim country where 'first-class citizens' have less rights than 'second-class citizens' in Israel. |
23 July, 2010 - 12:52 Rate this: 0 points | clevenson, i see you've just logged-on, so …why did you reprint that blatant lie?, contradicted as it is by the first word of the actual article in the independent (or did you read no further than the headline? |
27 July, 2010 - 09:49 Rate this: 1 point | clevenson, so you're saying that it is ok for you to spread lies about israel?
… and no need for you even to admit that it was a lie? (nor indeed to reply at all for 8 days |
happygoldfish
17 July, 2010 - 22:15
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yesterday's haaretz version of the story is at http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/palestinians-may-soon-have-to-swear-loyalty-to-jewish-state-1.302229