Horn of plenty


By Jenni Frazer
February 5, 2010
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According to Ha'aretz, which is unlikely to have got this wrong, the Jerusalem Post editor, David Horovitz, has emailed Professor Naomi Chazan, the president of the New Israel Fund, and told her that her column is no longer required in his paper.
David's actions — which he has not, so far, chosen to explain in public — appear to have been precipitated by the ongoing, noisy and vituperative campaign against Professor Chazan by the student group, Im Tirzu. The charge is that the New Israel Fund financed a slew of human rights groups which supplied information to Judge Richard Goldstone in order for him to compile his now infamous Goldstone Report.
Im Tirzu, which insists it is not a right-wing group but one "working for the renewal of Zionist ideals," has so far published a vicious cartoon of Professor Chazan, characterising her as "Naomi Chazan-Goldstone" and featuring her with a horn on her head. Additionally group members held a noisy demo outside her home, wearing keffiyahs and waving placards: a little bit of research might have informed them that a)they were outside the wrong house and that b)she was not in the country in any case.
All of a sudden, it seems, free speech and democracy are at a premium in Israel. And elsewhere: in a kneejerk reaction — in my opinion, without the knee — Professor Chazan has been seriously uninvited to speak at a synagogue and community centre in Melbourne, Australia, next week.
I have no means of knowing what pressure — if any — was applied to the Jerusalem Post to make David Horovitz drop Naomi Chazan as a columnist. What I do know is that she is one of Israel's finest and most honourable politicians, who has rendered immeasurable service to her country, not least in her work with African nations. She has worked hard to promote the rights of women and minorities; she spent long and arduous hours in the Knesset, not least as deputy speaker, and the tradition of public service is certainly ingrained in the family: she is the daughter of Avraham and Zena Harman, he a one time Israeli ambassador to the US (and UK born), her mother a former MK herself. So Naomi Chazan is not no-one; she has contributed more to Israel and the "Zionist ideal" than any of the wretched opponents of Im Tirzu.
And let us suppose that one were to agree with Im Tirzu and its followers. Is personal invective a useful way for the group to get its point across? Is demonising Professor Chazan an appropriate or acceptable response? But that seems to have become what passes for informed debate these days: name-calling (cf Alan Dershowitz, of whom I thought better), personal abuse, and, lastly, a determination to shut up people with whose opinions you don't agree (cf the Benny Morris farrago in Cambridge this week.) Censorship and boycott have a way of coming back to bite the instigators.

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Ben Abuyah

5 February, 2010 - 16:17

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It is frightening to think that support for Im Tirzu's McCarthyist line was given here by the vice-chairman of the Zionist Federation, when I blogged about this far right organisation's despicable anti-democratic activities a few days ago.

Frightening, but not very surprising. Scary times.


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 14:54

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Don't feed the lying troll!


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 14:59

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Ho ho - caught you out!

Ben Abuyah reproduced Tzarfati's post 5 minutes before it was posted!

Maybe they are the same person?

Moderator - check the IP addresses - if they are the same, then that breaks the rules - ban them


moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 15:07

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Actually, Mr Hoffman, Ben's appears after mine because I edited my posting to include a call for your resignation after your disgraceful support for the fascistic Im Tirzu attack on a fellow Zionist. I still think you must resign because of your obvious disdain for Zionists and Jews who do not accept your far right views.


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 15:23

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Tzarfati has just removed his post timed 16:22!

Luckily I kept a copy.

That proves that "Tzarfati" and "Ben Abuyah" are the same person.

Moderator: Ban him. Check the two IP addresses, they may be the same. Even if tey are not, the fact taht he has removed his post timed 16:22 proves that they are the same person.

What other aliases have you been posting as, Troll?


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 15:30

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The comment of "Ben Abuyah" - below - is clearly supposed to follow that of Tzarfati. However Tzarfati screwed up and posted Ben Abuyah's comment five minutes before his own, instead of after. Now he has deleted his own post (timed 16:22) to try to cover up. Of course the coverup has failed.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave..."

Pathetic idiot - he can't even cheat efficiently.

Ben Abuyah:

It is frightening to think that support for Im Tirzu's McCarthyist line was given here by the vice-chairman of the Zionist Federation, when I blogged about this far right organisation's despicable anti-democratic activities a few days ago.

Frightening, but not very surprising. Scary times.


moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 15:32

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Wrong again, Mr Hoffman. You are getting quite good at being wrong. Here, I've edited it again and it appears even later: And, no, Ben Abuya and I are not one and the same. Resign Hoffman.
I call here on Jonathan Hoffman, the vice-chair of the Zionist Federation, to resign after he supported Im Tirzu's attack on a fellow Zionist.
It is frightening to think that support for Im Tirzu's McCarthyist line was given here by the vice-chairman of the Zionist Federation, when I blogged about this far right organisation's despicable anti-democratic activities a few days ago.


moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 15:38

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You are only trying this diversionary tactic, Hoffman, to take the heat off yourself because of your support for a disgraceful attack on a fellow Zionist and Jew. Even Jenni Frazer, the assistant editor of the JC, said of the attack

personal abuse, and, lastly, a determination to shut up people with whose opinions you don't agree (cf the Benny Morris farrago in Cambridge this week.) Censorship and boycott have a way of coming back to bite the instigators.

Here it is coming to bite you on the Bum, Jonathan.
I repeat my call for Jonathan Hoffman to resign or be sacked from his Zionist Federation position. He is divisive, his continued abuse and bullying of fellow Jews and Zionists is hateful and he does more damage to Israel's cause than all the anti-Zionist groups put together.


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 15:44

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http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/british-jews-owed-apology

tzarfaty lied about the ZF

He lied about his name

And now he has lied about his duplicate identity as "Ben Abuyah"

Moderators: This idiot should be banned and is utterly without credibility. Many of us are sick of his toilet tactics here. Inaction will just drive people away from thejc.com.


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 15:50

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"Ben Abuya and I are not one and the same"

After your farrago of lies, Troll, you expect anyone to believe that?


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 16:16

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moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 16:28

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All we need to do is wait until Monday for the JC staff to return to prove your allegation wrong, Mr Hoffman. I have written to the JC's web person, Jessica Elgot, asking her to clarify that Ben and I are not the same. And thanks for reminding us that the ZF owes British Jewry an apology for telling its membersto take part in the survey in order to skew it -- before all the other groups cottoned on to the fact that it was easy to doctor it.
Will you apologise before you resign or are sacked? Also, I am quite happy to carry on at this because it shows what a fool Mr Hoffman is. And I will not, despite his attempts to get me to abuse him, stoop to his level.


moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 16:28

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Before you resign or are sacked, Mr Hoffman, will you apologise for the abuse? Why are you wasting so much effort for one diversionary tactic to take the heat off your support for the far right attack on a fellow Zionist and Jew.


Jon_i_Cohen

6 February, 2010 - 16:33

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Jessica, Jenni, Stephen and the rest of the JC staff should know that there seem to be a bunch of bloggers on this web site taking pleasure in putting forward our enemies case.

In some cases they have selected a range of Jewish sounding or seeming names to appear genuine and plausible; such as:-

Ben Abuya - a Rabbi during the Roman period who became a traitor to the Jewish people

iainlrabbak - Arabic for curse your god

moshetzarfati2 - moshe is a fatty 2

gold.sarah - so obviously a plant, it's probably Lauren Booth

ibrows ?

and
gordon bennett/t - that well know expletive

All of these bloggers are bringing the JC web site into disrepute with their incessent drip drip of diatribes and vehemently anti-Israel proganda they spew out on a daily basis.

Many people I speak to now don't even bother with the JC web site any more, which is a shame, why do right minded Jews want to look at it and be upset with the same left-wing, fantasy land drivel they can see on the Guardian or Independents web sites?

So, if the JC staff are looking at this on Monday, guys let's get the above bloggers blocked, and suggest they move to the Guardian or Christian Aid web sites, by the way there is plenty of room for them on the Guardian, every time i put a post up, 5 minutes later it is taken down!!
How's that for a trendy lefty, "democratic", liberal part of the media.


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 17:30

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Great Jon

Now ....@Troll / Cyberstalker / Lier:

Whinge to the Dalai Lama, President Obama, Ban Ki-moon, HRH Queen Elizabeth the Second and the Emperor of Japan as well!

They will all recognise you for the inconsequential time-wasting obsessive that you are.


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 17:33

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http://cifwatch.com/2010/02/05/whats-sauce-for-the-goose/#comments

Speaking of the "liberal" Guardian ....where our home-grown trolls would be so at home ....


Jonathan Hoffman

6 February, 2010 - 18:31

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Yawn ... get a life, Troll. Go and organise that alternative Israel organisation that you said six months ago was imminent.

Fool


moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 18:33

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Resign, Mr Hoffman. Before you are sacked. And the alternative was discussed at Limmud, less than two months ago. Check with Simon Rocker, he wrote about it.


moshetzarfati2

6 February, 2010 - 18:34

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I'll say it again (by editing, it moves the message forward, as any fule kno): Jonathan, everyone knows that these attacks are just diversionary tactics to take the heat off the fact that you supported the vicious abuse of a fellow Zionist and Jew. For shame. If you had any scruples you'd resign before you were sacked.


Yvetta

6 February, 2010 - 21:13

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Jonathan, I have a hunch that Moshe resembles a Russian matryoshka doll, so many replicas does he have of himself on this site ...


Yvetta

6 February, 2010 - 21:17

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Mind you, I find some of his posts stimulatingly informative; I wouldn't want Moshe to go the way of all flesh.
His insults to you I could do without.


Yvetta

6 February, 2010 - 21:23

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btw Moshe, I happened across a reference to an article in The Spectator way back in 1963 by Desmond Stewart. I have Stewart's biography of Herzl somewhere. But in that article he attacked Zionism as it was developing and predicted that Egypt, which he saw as liberalising rapidly, would prove more congenial to many young Jews than Israel!
False prophet he was, but I thought of you!


Ben Abuyah

7 February, 2010 - 01:15

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Really Jonathan, I seriously think you should get some help for your delusions and paranoia. I am not the same person as moshetzarfati2 and have no idea who he or she is.

Oh, and Jon_i_Cohen, I never claimed that Ben Abuyah was my real name. I would hope that most people with a reasonable amount of Jewish education would have realised that it was an allusion to Elisha ben Abuyah, who expressed views that may have been viewed as heretical by parts of the establishment.


Jenni Frazer

8 February, 2010 - 16:03

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UPDATE: Given that this blog was originally supposed to be about Naomi Chazan, a fact which almost all these posters seem to have by-passed, I thought it only right to update the original information. Apparently the reason that David Horovitz, editor of the Jerusalem Post, dispensed with Professor Chazan's services, was because she is taking legal action against the paper for having published the Im Tirzu advert. Some might believe this puts a different complexion on the row; I do just wonder what Im Tirzu thinks is so worthy about spending hundreds of shekels on ad personam full-page newspaper ads, when surely to goodness the money could be put to better and more practical use helping Israelis on the ground. Evidently, however, like the posters, it's easier and more fun to slag each other off.


moshetzarfati2

8 February, 2010 - 16:22

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David Horovitz would say that, wouldn't he? And I still believe Hoffman should quit or be sacked for his partisan support of Im Tirzu against a fellow Zionist.


Jenni Frazer

8 February, 2010 - 17:10

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UPDATE 2: It's not a question of "David Horovitz would say that." Here is what the Post itself says: "The Jerusalem Post has cancelled Naomi Chazan’s biweekly column, after she and the New Israel Fund of which she is president threatened legal action against the paper over a recent advertisement.
The decision was taken by Jerusalem Post management after a legal threat was received at the paper from the NIF and Chazan’s lawyers.
Along with other publications, the Post last Sunday carried an advertisement criticising Chazan and the New Israel Fund in the context of the Goldstone Report on Operation Cast Lead".
Now, I am really curious. The Post says that it was only one of a number of publications which carried the offending advert. But Ha'aretz says that the Post was the only major newspaper in Israel which ran the ad, which suggests that Im Tirzu was unable to persuade anyone else of standing to carry its attack against Naomi Chazan.
This makes it hardly surprising that Professor Chazan has said she will take legal action. The central point remains: vitriolic, personalised attacks don't exactly move us out of the playground.


moshetzarfati2

8 February, 2010 - 17:39

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JF, there is already one major inconsistency in the Post's report, reported post-Haaretz's report (as it were). Does this not suggest to you that, perhaps, Mr Horovitz is being slightly wotsit with the actualité?


Avraham Reiss

8 February, 2010 - 20:02

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Jenni,
you wrote: "Some might believe this puts a different complexion on the row; I do just wonder what Im Tirzu thinks is so worthy about spending hundreds of shekels on ad personam full-page newspaper ads, when surely to goodness the money could be put to better and more practical use helping Israelis on the ground".

The point as I understand it is that the NIF has so far distributed some $140M to organizations in Israel (source: Ben Caspit, Maariv). Some of this money most probably did some good, but in the same way that we wouldn't like to accept support from a secretive missionary organization seeking a back-door into the hearts of the unsuspecting,we do have to show people what exactly is the nature (and in this case, danger) of their beneficiary.

For example, an innocent and unsuspecting organization could become totally - or chiefly - reliable on the NIF for income, and at some future point could be blackmailed into taking an untenable public stand on some issue.


moshetzarfati2

8 February, 2010 - 20:06

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So, Reiz, it's OK for foreigners to fund the colonists on the West Bank and Yeshivot for freeloaders.


Avraham Reiss

9 February, 2010 - 05:18

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What happens in Israel is none of your business, dropout. Are you afraid there won't remain enough charity for you?

Anyway, prove that foreigners are funding what you claim.


moshetzarfati2

9 February, 2010 - 07:25

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It is, Mr Rs, if Israel is a "state of the Jewish people". Moskowitz, Morris and Stein, as well as the swivel-eyed Christian "Zionists" are "proud" to fund the expansionism.

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